Questions About Breeding..

[jok]

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Yet another question Heather - what does the Dalmations owner think about this intended mating. You say that they are a Dalmation breeder?? Just wondering because i personally would not let my pedigree dog anywhere near a mongrel or other breed and i would think that most responsible dog owners / breeders would be the same. :- "

Please don't think im being rude or trying to cause an argument, im not. If you intend to go ahead, which is not something i would do, why not use a mastiff as someone else suggested. Don't just use a Dalmation because they live near by and its convenient!!

 

[*Lesley*]

No definatly not offendid, thank you that will be something i will look in to. problem at the moment is that i dont know any mastiffs in the area, but i will start to look. thank you  :thumbsup:
Heather

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i know a guy whos wifes arse is mastiff.....suppose you couldnt use it ? ) the council over here use it as a bouncy castle at kiddie partys ! last week we took her out with us so she could bring a tray of drinks back on it !!

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You are a cheeky bugger Stormy and I bet you wouldn't say boo if you were talking to a woman in person and not through the PC o

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PROBABLY NOT, YOUR RITE...EVEN NOW IM LOOKIN OVER MY SHOULDER FOR HER....THRU A "WIDE ANGLE " MIRROR TOO !! BIG PANORAMIC GAL SHE IS ! :- "

HEY IM A GENTLEMAN I DONT TALK LIKE THAT TO WOMEN..... :thumbsup: when im in striking distance

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I'll see you at kelmarsh fair and we'll talk about it Stormy :- " :teehee:

 

[stormydog]

I'll see you at kelmarsh fair and we'll talk about it Stormy :- " :teehee:

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UH OH.. dont tell me you got one of those tray carriers too..... i think ill bring a very large stick with me to kelmarsh...(self-defence) :sweating: :sweating:

look forward to it lesley..not the beating the meeting :lol: :lol:

j :thumbsup:

 

[*Lesley*]

I'll see you at kelmarsh fair and we'll talk about it Stormy :- " :teehee:

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UH OH.. dont tell me you got one of those tray carriers too..... i think ill bring a very large stick with me to kelmarsh...(self-defence) :sweating: :sweating:

look forward to it lesley..not the beating the meeting :lol: :lol:

j :thumbsup:

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I'm not coming really just wanted to get you worried :lol: someone else told me you were going :- "

We will meet one day though so keep the stick :thumbsup:

 

[Heffer_Nite]

I dont really like mastiffs, there to bulky and iv met some very very agressive ones to be honest. but like i said before i will look in to it. and as for the dalmations owner they love my dog and her sister, and are happy to mate there boy with her. they dont live that near thats why im only gonna get one go at it, so thats not the only reason im doing it. As i said before i want to use the dalmation because it should look like my dog but a little thinned down, and if it dosent well then im sure they will be beautiful anyhow. (if they look anything like my dog they sure will be! :thumbsup: )

Heather

 

[stormydog]

I dont really like mastiffs, there to bulky and iv met some very very agressive ones to be honest. but like i said before i will look in to it. and as for the dalmations owner they love my dog and her sister, and are happy to mate there boy with her. they dont live that near thats why im only gonna get one go at it, so thats not the only reason im doing it. As i said before i want to use the dalmation because it should look like my dog but a little thinned down, and if it dosent well then im sure they will be beautiful anyhow. (if they look anything like my dog they sure will be!  :thumbsup: )
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NICE ! STILL WONT BEAT MY MATES WIFES FAT ASS THO ! YOUR PUPS WILL NEVER BE AS SPOTTY AS THIS BABY ! :x :x

 

[sighthoundlover]

Before anyone bites my head off, this is just MY opinion and nobody has to agree with it. This mating sounds to me like it has no purpose whatsoever. Why on earth breed more x-breeds when their are hundreds in shelters? Especially a mastiff - x. There are far too many people just breeding x'breds for the sake of it and it isn't right.

Also why on earth cross a mastiff with a dalmatian? Just because dalmatains are lighter framed than mastiff's doesn't mean the pups will be. Have you not thought about all the potential health and behaviour problems that can occur? Dalmatians can have hearing problems and need alot of exersize. You are combining these problems with heart, hip, and eye problems that mastiff's can suffer with. I would think alot more about breeding this bitch if i were you.

 

[*Mark*]

If im at a distance from the other dog she will not feel to thretened, because im not near enuff to get hurt by it. She only has problems if the dog aproches me. but yeah good question.
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You really dont have any idea about mating a dog and think that you should keep well clear.

Are you expecting to just find a dog and put them in the garden together and let them get on with it?

You will most likely need to hold your bitch to stop her from hurting herself or the dog during mating.

 

[Seraphina]

There is another thing that troubles me Heather, you say that the only reason your bitch is so aggressive is that she was not socialized properly. IMHO that is just an excuse, I think she would be pretty much same regardless. But why didn't you socialize her? More to the point will you have the time to "socialize" the pup you keep. You have one large aggressive large dog which mated to Dalmatian is likely to produce large aggressive hyperactive dogs. So you are going to have 2 aggressive dogs.

I am only going on the info you gave us, but you cannot have it both ways; either she is so aggressive she would not accept another dog, in which case you have no right to breed from her and impose her pups on the society. Or she is "not so bad" in which case you can get her a friend and there is absolutely no need to breed this litter.

But you obviously made up your mind, you think it is OK for irresponsible people to allow their bitches to produce unplanned litters of large aggressive dogs and you will go ahead.

Maybe you should go down to the nearest pound and look in the eye to the poor hapless dogs which are there waiting to be destroyed.

 

[Heffer_Nite]

no my sister will be keeping ber still, cos as i said she wouldnt alow the dog near me. and agin read my posts!! im reading up on it because i dont know much about it thats exactly why i posted on her, FOR HELP!!

 

[Heffer_Nite]

She was a guard dog up untill a year ago, she was NEVER tought anything to be honest and when i said to my dad that i wanted to teach her stuff and try to get her to be like the other house dogs he said ok. after spending day and night with me for ages trying to teach her to be clean in the house and some basic manners she then didnt want to be anywere but my side. so no it is not her fault she is like this she has just never had the time spent with her when she was younger. and we lived on a farm.. its not like we poped to the park to meet other dogs. she only knew who and what was there. give her a horse and shes fine, loves the things. a cat! yep sure she likes them too. but she never met other dogs, so PLEASE stop attacking her she isnt a bad dog she was just never shown how to be. And as for her pup, yes i will have the time to socialize the it. and as i live in a normal area again now, yes we will be going to the park and meeting new dogs and people and it will be socialize.

Heather

 

[~whitecross whippets~]

remember though pups will learn everything from their mums from day one....any mum that is worried/tense/anxious around other dogs or people will be picked up by the pups ...so whatever you do to socialise them will be very hard :sweating:

i know originally you asked for help and i cant give any practical advice on mating etc...because i am not an expert but i would try to read some of the advice given and try to realise no none is trying to be nasty...just helpful.... :luck: good luck with what you decide :thumbsup:

 

[lalena]

if you are determined to breed from her, at least wait a while. get her into socialisation classes etc. that way, she'll either improve, proving she's not aggressive, or show that she IS aggressive, in which case is totally unsuitable for motherhood. also take the time to find a compatible father, because a dalmation really isnt ideal :wacko:

if she turns out alright, and you've found a dad, next thing to do is look for good owners and homes, BEFORE the mating preferably, as there are some horrid people out there, and the last thing anyone wants is for their pups to end up as fighting dogs, or used to breed fighting dogs. you get the picture

pups learn so much from mum, even though they only stay with her for a few weeks. the rspca has an ad in our local paper stating that when looking for a pup, make sure the mother is healthy and of sound temperament.

a friend of mine bought a puppy. when she told us that the mother had attacked her daughter when they visited the litter my o.h and i told her to give it back. we fell out with her over it, her screaming at us 'shes only 9wks, shes innocent, its not enough time to learn any bad habits'... anyway, we made up a bit later. not so long after, we went to see her, and the pup was gone. it had bitten her daughter

thankfully, she was alright, but it couldve been avoided

good luck :luck:

 

[kris]

theres a lot of good advice here from everyone who is posting.if i were you hun,id listen to it. it could save you a lot of heartbreak later :thumbsup:

 

[IWLass]

as for the dalmations owner they love my dog and her sister, and are happy to mate there boy with her.

Aside from all the moral reasons for not breeding cross-breeds; has the Dalmation been BAER testing to ensure he has full hearing? Deafness in Dalmations is hediatary, and can often be unli-lateral (in only one ear), so may go undetected without specialist testing at one of these centres.

All dalmations should be BAER tested to ensure reduce the risk of passing on deafness to future generations - it can be very difficult to find suitably experienced homes for totally deaf puppies - even more so if they have a large/powerful dame

 

[whippynit]

Ive only just read this post - and i agree with Beejay, everyone has gone on to put their point across of the moralities of this and not help with the original question.
I must say i see all the k9ers points and i agree with them myself but if Heffer-nite is going to breed her bitch anyway, which she obviously is, wouldnt it be better if we actually helped her?

At least shes asked for advice. If we scare her off we are not helping matters.

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Seems to me she is going to do what she wants to do anyway, heed advice or not.

Why is everyone pussy footing around. Can understand that replies have to be tactful but sometimes the truth hurts. We do not want to scare anyone away but what Heffernite is intending to do is breed from Mastiff cross with maybe a dalmation. The reason being Heffernite wants another dog but mastiff cross is unaccepting of other dogs, so have a litter and keep one. Don't think I need to go into detail about why this would be a bad idea.

Sorry but as soon as I saw this post it just made me feel that to breed a mongrel litter to get one pup that the mother would get along with is just irresponsible. I cannot imagine it would be easy to find good homes for all the other pups. Where will they finish up.

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Mazza, if you read my post i said i agree with all other k9ers about this but all i was thinking is that Heffer-nite is going to breed anyway so i thought people could offer her their best advice under the circumstances.If she does breed and come under difficulties, or needs advice along the way at least she can ask advice on here and we havent completely turned her away, which could end up making matters worse as she wouldnt want to ask our advice again, and then it would be the pups suffering. I do feel the same about this as other k9ers but she is going to breed regardless anyway.