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I know most K9ers know about the dangers of grapes and raisins - I only found out myself due to a post on here after someone sadly lost their dog due to raisin toxicity, but I thought it can’t hurt to mention it again after my unfortunate raisin experience on Monday & share with you the information that I have since found out.

On Monday I had a bag of nuts/dried fruit in my bag which contained raisins – I’m very careful usually but that day when I got in from work I absentmindedly put my bag on the floor whilst I dealt with the dogs – I then started doing other things & it wasn’t until I saw Willow with a clemantine in his mouth that I realised they’d got my bag – the nut/fruit mix was already gone! I didn’t know who had eaten it, both or one of the dogs. I wasn’t terribly worried as I knew there couldn’t of been many raisins in there, there was only a handful of the mix left.

Anyway 4 hours later Willow was sick, then he was sick again shortly after – at this point I called the emergency vet & whilst I was on the phone to her Merlin was sick. I explained what had happened & she reassured me that they would not of eaten enough to cause raisin toxicity, they would of needed to of eaten a much larger quantity. They continued to be sick - Willow 3 times and Merlin 5 times. I called the vet again about an hour later, at this time she had more information for me, she’d checked out the exact quantities per kilo of body weight that they would of needed to of eaten to cause toxicity & it was MUCH higher than they'd had. She told me to keep an eye on them & we agreed that if they continued to vomit or show any other signs such as diarrhoea or weakness we would bring them in.

Luckily they wasn’t sick again & showed no other signs of illness apart from not being interested in food which was worrying in itself being so unlike them. However by 10pm they were taking bits of ham from me to my relief!! To be on the safe side I slept in the lounge with them all night so that I could keep my eye on them. I felt sick with worry despite the reassurances of the vet & felt so guilty for being careless.

Since then I’ve done a bit of research on raisin toxicity & what I found was worrying & had I known then what I know now I would of taken the dogs straight to the vet & wouldn’t of taken any chances. Although the vet was probably going on general information about raisin toxicity it seems that it really does depend on the individual dog, you could get one dog that could eat a bowl of raisins with little or no ill effects whereas a dog sensitive to it could end up with renal failure after eating a small portion. I found information where as little as 7 raisins had caused renal failure in a dog.

What I also didn’t know prior to this happening was that if I’d of got the dogs to the vets within 2 hours of them consuming the raisins they could have been induced to vomit. This is the best & safest course of action to take if a dog eats a potentially toxic substance and although I hope to god it never happens to me again if it did this is what I’d do.

All’s well that ends well I guess but I have really learnt my lesson - I never plan to let another raisin across my doorstep. I don’t even really like the ruddy things………I was only trying to be healthy!
 
Since reading originally on K9 of the toxicity of raisins I have mentioned it to a few friends who have dogs. I particularly mentioned it to friends before Xmas as I thought some might 'treat' their dogs to a mince pie.

I was surprised by the number of people who said theiur dogs liked raisins and grapes and had them [albeit in small amounts] regularly.

As the danger of raisins seems to be renal failure I am worried that these small amounts will over a long period still cause renal damage/failure. I don't know if this is true, but if it is there could be a lot of pet dogs in danger in their old age and the cause won't be connected to their regular treats.

Pauline
 
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maggie217 said:
Since reading originally on K9 of the toxicity of raisins I have mentioned it to a few friends who have dogs.  I particularly mentioned it to friends before Xmas as I thought some might 'treat' their dogs to a mince pie. I was surprised by the number of people who said theiur dogs liked raisins and grapes and had them [albeit in small amounts] regularly.

As the danger of raisins seems to be renal failure I am worried that these small amounts will over a long period still cause renal damage/failure. I don't know if this is true, but if it is there could be a lot of pet dogs in danger in their old age and the cause won't be connected to their regular treats.

Pauline

I'm glad you mentioned that because some of the information I came across mentioned that they also believe the damage could indeed be cumulative.

I also found that nearly every one of my friends who has a dog didn't know about the danger of grapes and raisins, a friend I told yesterday said to me that she had always given her dog raisins right up until he died OF A KIDNEY DISEASE!
 
thanks for the information Jill, I didnt know about this
 
Jillb said:
I'm glad you mentioned that because some of the information I came across  mentioned that they also believe the damage could indeed be cumulative. 
I also found that nearly every one of my friends who has a dog didn't know about the danger of grapes and raisins, a friend I told yesterday said to me that she had always given her dog raisins right up until he died OF A KIDNEY DISEASE!

Thanks Jill

I thought that might be the case, and I was amazed at how many of my friends did give their dogs a few grapes or raisins.

Pauline
 
Jillb said:
What I also didn’t know prior to this happening was that if I’d of got the dogs to the vets within 2 hours of them consuming the raisins they could have been induced to vomit.  This is the best & safest course of action to take if a dog eats a potentially toxic substance and although I hope to god it never happens to me again if it did this is what I’d do.

You can induce vomiting by putting a spoonful of table salt down their throats. Within about 10 minutes they will vomit out all they've eaten. Obviously this would be okay for raisins, but sometimes there are things they eat that would harm them more coming back up so only use it if you know it's things you need to get out like raisins or chocolate or things like that.

As you say raisin toxicity isn't known in exact amounts and while 1 or 2 could kill one dog it could take 200 to kill another. It's something I would never risk. Chelsea used to play with grapes and eat them before it became common knowledge, but now it's just a nono. Better safe than sorry.

Wendy
 
So sorry about what happened to your dogs....I hope they are both on the road to recovery now.. :thumbsup: :luck:
 
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OMG!! I must have missed this, your boys do put you through it Jill.

Glad they are OK.

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OMG!! I must have missed this, your boys do put you through it Jill.

Glad they are OK.

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I know what you mean Lisa, I swear I didn't have any grey hair before I had whippets in my life! They're worth it though :wub: :wub:
 

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