Rescue Fund

[dawn]

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After being involved in the discussion yesterday about the Ebay whippet I realised that K9 has helped several whippets from various rescue centres and bad homes etc find homes.

I know with regard to the whippet that was advertised on Ebay it meant finding quite a large sum of money to get the whippet into safe hands.

Maybe we could arrange for people to donate monies into a fund which could be used to help these unfortunate dogs and get them to safety so that they can be found loving permanent homes. The money would then be readily available.

One idea would be for members to donate items for an auction and the monies to be put into an account to be used as needed.

We could call the fund :

The Guardian Angel K9 rescue fund (just an idea)

The reason behind my thinking is one day we may come across one of these unfortunate dogs somewhere and not find someone with sufficient funds to be able to put up the moneys to purchase or get the dog released.

Just an idea what do u think??

 

[~Helen~]

:thumbsup: great stuff :thumbsup:

 

[~JO~]

Yes Dawn I think that is a good idea! The only problems I can think of is who would authorise whether a case is deemed 'suitable'. I mean is it just for pure-breds, or whippet crosses or all running dogs??

Also we would have to have somesort of person/persons in charge that we entrust with making that final decision. But I'm sure its possible :thumbsup:

 

[anslinmcg]

I agree, but did not want to mention money on my idea of having a stash of stuff for these types of situations and fostering.

It would be advisable to may be set up a 'committee' with a constitution to ensure that everything is correct especially with the nice people of the HMRC (formerly the Inland Revenue and VAT offices!!) as we do not know how big this could get?

 

[Veredon]

Fantastic Idea Dawn, K9 has helped so many Whippets its definately worth doing.And like you say, one day Funds just might not be available for the Suitable new owner.

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[alfyn]

It would be advisable to may be set up a 'committee' with a constitution to ensure that everything is correct especially with the nice people of the HMRC (formerly the Inland Revenue and VAT offices!!) as we do not know how big this could get?

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I think this is taking it a bit too far :blink:

Dawn,i think your idea is brilliant :thumbsup:

It was very fortunate that i happened to have £300 cash to pay for Cassie.If there's a "next time",i might not be in that position.Sometimes,these situations arise very quickly,so it would be great to know that there is a fund available to get these poor dogs out.The only problem that i can see is how does someone get their hands on the money at short notice?

 

[dawn]

It would be advisable to may be set up a 'committee' with a constitution to ensure that everything is correct especially with the nice people of the HMRC (formerly the Inland Revenue and VAT offices!!) as we do not know how big this could get?

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I think this is taking it a bit too far :blink:

Dawn,i think your idea is brilliant :thumbsup:

It was very fortunate that i happened to have £300 cash to pay for Cassie.If there's a "next time",i might not be in that position.Sometimes,these situations arise very quickly,so it would be great to know that there is a fund available to get these poor dogs out.The only problem that i can see is how does someone get their hands on the money at short notice?

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What I was thinking was if we could maybe raise say £500 (I know this is probably more than one dog would cost but we are covered if we use some of the money until we can raise some more) and Nigel & Judy could say put it into a bank account til such times as it is needed.

 

[anslinmcg]

It would be advisable to may be set up a 'committee' with a constitution to ensure that everything is correct especially with the nice people of the HMRC (formerly the Inland Revenue and VAT offices!!) as we do not know how big this could get?

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I think this is taking it a bit too far :blink:

Dawn,i think your idea is brilliant :thumbsup:

It was very fortunate that i happened to have £300 cash to pay for Cassie.If there's a "next time",i might not be in that position.Sometimes,these situations arise very quickly,so it would be great to know that there is a fund available to get these poor dogs out.The only problem that i can see is how does someone get their hands on the money at short notice?

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What I was thinking was if we could maybe raise say £500 (Iknow this is probalbley more than one dog would cost) and Nigel & Judy could say put it into a bank account til such times as it is needed.

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Debs sorry if I sounds too official - just have my owrk hat on. :- "

The committe could be Nigel, Judy and one other person.

A constitution can be a couple of lines, detailing a few finer points. Is it just for whippets, lurchers or italian greyhounds? What about cross breeds?

:blink: I too was lucky to have the money for Byron, but I know that there are a lot of people who do not have access to that amount of money so quickly. :blink:

Money can be tranfered to an account the same day, if requested prior to 3pm, by CHAPS, though there is a charge of £20 - £25. (A small admin charge to get a dog out of a sticky situation!)

 

[~Helen~]

We could think about registering for Gift Aid to increase the value of donations - do you have to be a registered charity for that? If this is going to be a permanent thing then it might be worth thinking about/looking into :thumbsup:

The only problems I can think of is who would authorise whether a case is deemed 'suitable'. I mean is it just for pure-breds, or whippet crosses or all running dogs??

That's a good question, and needs to be answered early on so that nobody gets upset later There ought to be a set of criteria that each case would have to meet.

 

[anslinmcg]

We could think about registering for Gift Aid to increase the value of donations - do you have to be a registered charity for that? If this is going to be a permanent thing then it might be worth thinking about/looking into :thumbsup:

The only problems I can think of is who would authorise whether a case is deemed 'suitable'. I mean is it just for pure-breds, or whippet crosses or all running dogs??

That's a good question, and needs to be answered early on so that nobody gets upset later There ought to be a set of criteria that each case would have to meet.

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I have looked into the Gift Aid/Payroll Giving and to do that the fund would have to be a registered Charity. This would mean more work, accounting standards, legal advice etc

See http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/publi...s/pdfs/App1.pdf for the application form!!!

If it was to be a reg char, who would pay into it, who would benefit from it - K9er's only, anyone with a dog or anyone with a pulse?

May be we should have a vote on what is to paid for, to whom, how often, breed critieria etc etc

 

[anslinmcg]

Have just spoken to an accountant friend and here is the conversation:

How difficult would it be to set up a charity?

It wouldn't be cheap or quick - would need to get a solicitor to write a trust deed, articles of association, etc. to form the charity which is needed to pass to the inland revenue for scrutiny to see if they will grant charitable status after they read all the stuff and then grant the status or not.

Do you have to be a charity to set up gift aid?

Yes - to receive gift aid, though companies can PAY gift aid.

 

[~Helen~]

Have just spoken to an accountant friend and here is the conversation:
How difficult would it be to set up a charity?

It wouldn't be cheap or quick - would need to get a solicitor to write a trust deed, articles of association, etc. to form the charity which is needed to pass to the inland revenue for scrutiny to see if they will grant charitable status after they read all the stuff and then grant the status or not.

Do you have to be a charity to set up gift aid?

Yes - to receive gift aid, though companies can PAY gift aid.

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Cor, well done! You work fast

 

[~JO~]

Didn't JR Whippet Rescue have quite a few problems trying to gain status as a charity - I'm sure it took them years.

 

[~Helen~]

Not that you asked for my opinion, but IMO (or IMHO :lol: ) it's probably more effective use of the money to keep everything as informal as possible :unsure:

 

[anslinmcg]

Have just spoken to an accountant friend and here is the conversation:
How difficult would it be to set up a charity?

It wouldn't be cheap or quick - would need to get a solicitor to write a trust deed, articles of association, etc. to form the charity which is needed to pass to the inland revenue for scrutiny to see if they will grant charitable status after they read all the stuff and then grant the status or not.

Do you have to be a charity to set up gift aid?

Yes - to receive gift aid, though companies can PAY gift aid.

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Cor, well done! You work fast

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I am a woman do not expect any less from me!!!!!

 

[anslinmcg]

Not that you asked for my opinion, but IMO (or IMHO :lol: ) it's probably more effective use of the money to keep everything as informal as possible :unsure:

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I agree, it if was set up as a K9 fund and the only expenses were to CHAPs the money to who ever needed it quickly. It could be set up quite easily and have a good bank account that could even give you interest on the money in it!!

We could ask every K9'er for a £1 and we would have about £2,500????

 

[Juley]

I think asking everyone for a small amount, say 1 or 2 pounds is a good idea. That way we could raise some funds quickly and it wouldn't cost anyone very much. How about setting up a paypal account for the money?

 

[anslinmcg]

Paypal is so easy. I use it paying for stuff on e-bay and other things!!

Coudl Nigel do it? Or could he split the donations button some for the web page and some for the fund???

 

[alfyn]

Why is it that someone comes up with a brilliant,simple idea,& all of a sudden,it's turned into a complicated load of technical difficulties?

I'm sure that Dawn & I,with a bit of help from Nigel,can make this work quite easily & successfully!

 

[dawn]

Not that you asked for my opinion, but IMO (or IMHO :lol: ) it's probably more effective use of the money to keep everything as informal as possible :unsure:

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Thats what I was initially meaning!