Rspca Pulls Out Of Crufts

[jayp]

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http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/790/br...-out-of-crufts/

These are some of the ways forward proposed by the RSPCA, this is not about the RSPCA as a body ,like em or not ,but about improving pedigree dog health for the future

 An overhaul of the rules and requirements for pedigree dog registration and competitive dog showing (including breed standards). Health, welfare and temperament should be prioritised over appearance.

 The development and implementation of health and welfare-focused breeding strategies for individual breeds. This should include pro-active steps to increase the genetic diversity of dog breeds.

 More data collection and scientific analysis on causes of disease and death in dogs

 Education, especially of would-be owners, to encourage demand for dogs which have the best possible chance of leading healthy, happy lives as pets.

Dont think many could disagree with that, or could they?

 

[cyfrin]

Sky news online reports ~~

The RSPCA is pulling out of Crufts over concerns about the welfare of pedigree dogs.

The animal charity has suspended plans to staff a stand at the world-famous dog show in March 2009.

The RSPCA is calling for new measures to tackle disability, deformity and disease among pedigree breeds, following a television documentary which revealed the breeding process of such dogs resulted in a high level of genetic illness.

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I think this is brilliant news! Well done RSPCA!

 

[AnnSa]

Mmmm it all seems to be coming to a head.

Maybe things will change............

 

[Mark Roberts]

So the RSPCA who are their to look after the welfare of dogs is pulling out of Crufts? ummm so in their absence who will over see the welfare of the compeating dogs if their not there? the KC maybe? whoooops maybe not cos their the reason they are pulling out?.

VERY BAD MOVE.

 

[~JO~]

So the RSPCA who are their to look after the welfare of dogs is pulling out of Crufts? ummm so in their absence who will over see the welfare of the compeating dogs if their not there?

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What?! You honestly think the RSPCA oversee the welfare of dogs that are being exhibited?? (w00t)

There are vets on site for that - RSPCA are purely there on a money making and publicity capacity.

 

[jacqueline]

So the RSPCA who are their to look after the welfare of dogs is pulling out of Crufts? ummm so in their absence who will over see the welfare of the compeating dogs if their not there?

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What?! You honestly think the RSPCA oversee the welfare of dogs that are being exhibited?? (w00t)

There are vets on site for that - RSPCA are purely there on a money making and publicity capacity.

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well said

 

[maggie217]

http://www.dogmagazine.net/archives/790/br...-out-of-crufts/
These are some of the ways forward proposed by the RSPCA,  this is not about the RSPCA as a body ,like em or not ,but about improving pedigree dog health for the future

 An overhaul of the rules and requirements for pedigree dog registration and competitive dog showing (including breed standards). Health, welfare and temperament should be prioritised over appearance.

 The development and implementation of health and welfare-focused breeding strategies for individual breeds.  This should include pro-active steps to increase the genetic diversity of dog breeds.

 More data collection and scientific analysis on causes of disease and death in dogs

 Education, especially of would-be owners, to encourage demand for dogs which have the best possible chance of leading healthy, happy lives as pets.

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I absolutely agree with those aims but...

So the RSPCA who are their to look after the welfare of dogs is pulling out of Crufts? ummm so in their absence who will over see the welfare of the compeating dogs if their not there?

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What?! You honestly think the RSPCA oversee the welfare of dogs that are being exhibited?? (w00t)

There are vets on site for that - RSPCA are purely there on a money making and publicity capacity.

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I also agree with Jo's comments. I have no time for the RSPCA at all I am afraid.

 

And especially so after the inane comments made by the RSPCA spokesperson on the Pedigree Dogs programme.

 

BUT I do think the KC have to take a firm stance on health testing of breeding stock and also introduce compulsory DNA testing.

 

Pauline

 

[k4tie-d]

heres food for thought,

the BBC aired the documentery slating the kc, YES?

which station is it that shows Crufts? BBC :- "

surely this is somthing to be asked....

will Crufts be aired on the BBC next year? :blink:

 

[littlenell]

Totally agree with your post Pauline. I too have no good thoughts about the RSPCA but do agree with the aims proposed.

 

[Caster]

Please sign the No10 petition to reform KC and stop the deliberate breeding of disease into dogs

No 10 petition

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/ReformtheKC/

RSPCA Crufts

Times

http://tinyurl.com/5olnx8

Independent

http://tinyurl.com/66gfu8

Sky

http://tinyurl.com/5grero

,

 

[foxway]

heres food for thought, the BBC aired the documentery slating the kc, YES?

which station is it that shows Crufts? BBC  :- "

surely this is somthing to be asked....

will Crufts be aired on the BBC next year? :blink:

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my thoughts exactly all that bad press i wouldnt sell them the air time for 2009!, since the bbc didnt even show reputable breeders who do breed for temperment and health first and foremost, the programme was used to slander the k.c and people who do not breed/show a pedigree dogs believe this is the way all dogs are bred, not all breeders are like this i for one!, as for the rspca pulling out of crufts would help them achive what exactly?

I dont think the general public would care much if they are there or not, there are plenty other stalls to look at!, this doesnt seem like theres much point to it, i as an exhibitor wont miss the stall.

The aims proposed are good, but surley they should have a stall and promote this at the world largest dog show! surley that will get more ppl and the k.c to take notice!

 

[Caster]

Update - The Dogs Trust has pulled out of all KC events including Crufts and The Westminster Dog show

http://tinyurl.com/54tf4o

 

[affieluver]

lets hope things change for the better something has to be done to protect the dogs and the decent breeders amongst us as for the rspca no loss as far as im concerned :angry: its about time they got their act together too :thumbsup:

 

[Happy Humber]

Perhaps they will offer to pay for all these measures out of their donations

 

[bertha]

You jest!!!!!!!! The RSPCA spends money donated in good faith on dramatic TV adverts and slating the Kennel Club, not helping the animals that are suffering at the hands of man. Having reported cases of cruelty and animals being kept in horrid conditions to them, I am still waiting for something to happen! Their mantra seems to be, it has shelter, food and water therefore it is okay, regardless off the conditions the animals are in.

I find it sad the so many people are having a go at the KC, they are doing their best. They are not legal body run by the government so really have no powers as such to tell people what they can and cannot do with regard to breeding. Showing they have more control over. If the government got involved you can bet your life on it that they would ban dogs shows. This I think is the RSPCAs wish, to get rid of dog shows, they say it is cruel! In my mind shutting a large mastiff in a little shed for 8 hours at a time is cruel, but that is different according to them! :rant:

 

[affieluver]

You jest!!!!!!!! The RSPCA spends money donated in good faith on dramatic TV adverts and slating the Kennel Club, not helping the animals that are suffering at the hands of man. Having reported cases of cruelty and animals being kept in horrid conditions to them, I am still waiting for something to happen! Their mantra seems to be, it has shelter, food and water therefore it is okay, regardless off the conditions the animals are in.
I find it sad the so many people are having a go at the KC, they are doing their best. They are not legal body run by the government so really have no powers as such to tell people what they can and cannot do with regard to breeding. Showing they have more control over. If the government got involved you can bet your life on it that they would ban dogs shows. This I think is the RSPCAs wish, to get rid of dog shows, they say it is cruel! In my mind shutting a large mastiff in a little shed for 8 hours at a time is cruel, but that is different according to them! :rant:

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couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[affieluver]

You jest!!!!!!!! The RSPCA spends money donated in good faith on dramatic TV adverts and slating the Kennel Club, not helping the animals that are suffering at the hands of man. Having reported cases of cruelty and animals being kept in horrid conditions to them, I am still waiting for something to happen! Their mantra seems to be, it has shelter, food and water therefore it is okay, regardless off the conditions the animals are in.
I find it sad the so many people are having a go at the KC, they are doing their best. They are not legal body run by the government so really have no powers as such to tell people what they can and cannot do with regard to breeding. Showing they have more control over. If the government got involved you can bet your life on it that they would ban dogs shows. This I think is the RSPCAs wish, to get rid of dog shows, they say it is cruel! In my mind shutting a large mastiff in a little shed for 8 hours at a time is cruel, but that is different according to them! :rant:

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couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[k4tie-d]

You jest!!!!!!!! The RSPCA spends money donated in good faith on dramatic TV adverts and slating the Kennel Club, not helping the animals that are suffering at the hands of man. Having reported cases of cruelty and animals being kept in horrid conditions to them, I am still waiting for something to happen! Their mantra seems to be, it has shelter, food and water therefore it is okay, regardless off the conditions the animals are in.
I find it sad the so many people are having a go at the KC, they are doing their best. They are not legal body run by the government so really have no powers as such to tell people what they can and cannot do with regard to breeding. Showing they have more control over. If the government got involved you can bet your life on it that they would ban dogs shows. This I think is the RSPCAs wish, to get rid of dog shows, they say it is cruel! In my mind shutting a large mastiff in a little shed for 8 hours at a time is cruel, but that is different according to them! :rant:

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i think you are slightly wrong (ducks for cover)

the kennel club register the pups, so there for, they are the governing body and they can decided which pups can be registered and which cant.

if the kennel club said all dams and sires and pups had to have dna tested before pups could be registered, then if you want your litter registered then thats what you have to do. same goes for if they said a bitch could only have 3 litters, or they can only have a litter after 2years of age, things like that.

the government has nothing to do with that.

im only going on an outsiders view as i have never and dont intened to breed,

but i think it is the kennel clubs responsability to do somthing, not the government. and i hope that all these big names pulling out, makes the kc do somthing for the good of all the dogs, and not just to shut the press up. :b

 

[affieluver]

i understand where you are coming from katie but who is going to undertake the necessary dna testing and im afraid it wont stop there people will just sell them with no papers so in effect you will not stop people from irresponsible breeding in some ways it will be made easier i really dont know what the answer is but its terribly sad for all dogs and owners alike

 

[k4tie-d]

i understand where you are coming from katie but who is going to undertake the necessary dna testing and im afraid it wont stop there people will just sell them with no papers so in effect you will not stop people from irresponsible breeding in some ways it will be made easier i really dont know what the answer is but its terribly sad for all dogs and owners alike

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as i dont know much about breeding and what needs to be done to improve the breeding in certian breeds, i was just using dna as an example.

and for the irresponsible breeders well i think you will have a hard job ever stopping them.

i just think the kc could do far more than what they are doing, and if they put some more rules in place, to try and improve the health of pups and to make it harder to register a litter, then hopfully it would put off all the backyard breeders, only the genuine breeders will be registering their pups and then the kc wouldn't have the rspca slating them.

they could be slating the rspca for not looking out for the rest of the dog world.