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[thedoghouse]

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Whilst walking my 2 greyhounds at a popular local dog walking spot this morning, we were having a lovely time & the dogs were, as usual, enjoying meeting & sniffing & having a wee play around with other dogs who we met on our way.

Then they shot off after a spaniel-type dog & I called Max (the more boisterous of my 2) back so that the dog wasn't overwhelmed by the 2 of them sniffing round them at once. Max came back to the whistle & I put him on his lead. Molly (my other dog) was capering around in the stream with the spaniel & I just left her as she was doing no harm (she's a very sociable dog who just likes to play). The spaniel's owner, however, ran out into the stream & picked up his dog then proceeded to KICK my Molly, then strode off muttering under is breath.

Molly is an ex-racer who we have had for 3 months now & I strongly suspect from the way she behaves in certain situations that she has been hit in the past. On being kicked, she took off in the opposite direction, ignoring my calls & whistles for her. I knew she would be frightened by what had happened & set off after her, calling all the time. I was really upset & worried about where she had gone. After around an hour of frantic searching I returned to the car, to find her cowering by the side of it.

I have been back home with the dogs for a few hours now & can't stop thinking about what's happened. I'm really upset. How dare a stranger kick my dog? Especially seeing as she wasn't causing any harm (I would never let her off the lead if I thought she would). Has anything like this happened to anyone else? I don't feel like returning to the same spot now in case we bump into that horrible man & his spaniel again.

 

[Esty]

What a horrible experience for all of you. Personally, I WOULD go back to area and inform the man of your dog's history and what you saw and how it affected her, explaining how he left himself open to charges of animal cruelty and criminal damage (your dog is your belonging and he has damaged it). How dare he! He has no right - imagine if your dog had ben vicious and turned on him - his own fault but it could have turned very nasty. Not surprised you are shaken!

 

[sue burton]

poor you do you perhaps have a very large chap you could take with you next time he could then have a quiet word with him and just point out the error of his ways worked for me my son is 6ft 4in and plays rugby

 

[sue burton]

poor you do you perhaps have a very large chap you could take with you next time he could then have a quiet word with him and just point out the error of his ways worked for me my son is 6ft 4in and plays rugby

 

[sue burton]

poor you do you perhaps have a very large chap you could take with you next time he could then have a quiet word with him and just point out the error of his ways worked for me my son is 6ft 4in and plays rugby

 

[hely]

thats disgusting.....i would def go back and find out just why the hell he thinks its ok for his dog to be off the lead and not yours and why the hell he thought it was ok for him to kick her..........i bet if it was his dog that had been kicked he would have just left it.......nasty piece of work :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

 

[fallenangel]

we have had a lot of bad reations to our greyhounds when ther off lead cally espicaly would not hurt a fly and has been beeten up by little dogs on many occasions and all she does is run back to me thank god. we now allways shout over to any owners to check there ok with our dogs playing with there. peoepl do react oddly to greyhound they think there all going to kill there dogs and some people dont even see them as a dog more like a foot ball or cricket bat sumthing to be used in a sport and thats it. things are getting better 15+ years a go most peoepl would have kicked your dog away. to greyhound owners we know how lovley soft and gental ex racers are but all most people see are the dogs on the front of bookmakers with muzzles on chaseing a hair.

If you do see this man again education is the bast way to go about it but firmly and tell him how how badly hes affected your dogs and you. but like us you will become very very aware of other dogs there owners and asking them if its ok most now are fine once you have asked them. if you dont see an owner its leads on with ours. just remeber in the dog peoples world its ok for there bosterus lad, aslation ect to jump all over there litter dogs but a greyhounds not allwoed any were nears without permison

 

[ingsay2000]

So sorry to hear this. I would definately go back. Dont let people like this stop you walking where you wish. Thankfully there are more decent dog owners than ignorant gadjies.

Glad Molly is ok.

 

[Finleyfoofoo]

Poor you.I had a similar situation a few weeks ago.I have four dogs,including a 6 month old Greyhound cross pup.Most people around me are lovely,so i never have a problem.A lady with a grumpy staffie came on our local field.I put all my dogs on,but Cracker was playing with a ball.However,when he saw the dog,he went up,the lady lashed out,said her dog bites,and booted my pup.I shouted that he was a pup,and that he meant no harm,but that sometimes he went off on one.I always think some folk are just miserable,and thoughtless.Dont let it put you off.These encounters happen rarely,but when they do,they knock your confidence.If you see him again,i would just stay out of his way.Enjoy your dogs,and don,t dwell on it.

Good luck

Amandaxx

 

[purplepixie]

I would go back to the place without the dogs about the same time on a couple of days to see if you can see him again, with another person, preferably male. This person clearly needs to see the error of their ways......if you know what I mean :- A swift k**k to his legs might do the trick. It is upsetting as the others have said & does knock your confidence. He clearly is a t**t :rant: , if anyone did that to one of mine god help them, esp if my husband was to see it.

PP

 

[Seraphina]

I had very similar experience some years ago on our beach when my Borzoi tried to play with a dog, and the dog was very happy playing with her. The owner went ballistic trying to kick my dog, but she was too fast for him, she was just leaping around him, thinking it was a game. He went quite red in the face and I thought he is going to have a heart attack. My dog was normally obedient but this "game" was so much fun she would not come back. When I finally got her he continued to abuse me.

The thing was, I always put her on the leash when I saw somebody approaching. Borzoi is big and some people are frightened of such big dog. This man sneaked up on us over the dunes; he just appeared and I had no time to do anything.

Even that my dog did not get kicked, i was terribly upset. So i can imagine how you feel. You should tell about your experience to other people who walk their dogs there and try to find out who this man is. I am sure it is against law to hit/kick an animal, I think it is an assault. You could consult your RSPCA on how to handle this.

 

[Whippets Rule]

I'm sorry for the Op's dog being kicked as I think kicking a dog is reprehensible however I have to say that one persons idea of their dog "capering" around with a complete strangers dog, may appear to the stranger as a completely unknown dog menacing their pet. it is posted about on here, plenty of times, how much we all hate other peoples dogs just running up and interfering etc...you can't have it both ways

it's no more acceptable for our dogs to menace others or other dogs to menace ours.

remember when a strange dog rushes up to you, you have no idea what that dog intends to do....you may know your dog is just friendly and wanting to play but the spaniel owner just sees a strange dog ( or in this case initially two strange dogs) rushing up to his. Like I say I don't condone kicking any animal but a panicking owner thinking their dog is under attack may lash out in the heat of the moment and probably really regrets it. This does not however render them some kind of dreadful serial animal abuser.

i think it's time people, ALL PEOPLE, thought a bit more before casting blame all the time. xx

 

[TTT]

I'm sorry for the Op's dog being kicked as I think kicking a dog is reprehensible however I have to say that one persons idea of their dog "capering" around with a complete strangers dog, may appear to the stranger as a completely unknown dog menacing their pet. it is posted about on here, plenty of times, how much we all hate other peoples dogs just running up and interfering etc...you can't have it both ways
it's no more acceptable for our dogs to menace others or other dogs to menace ours.

remember when a strange dog rushes up to you, you have no idea what that dog intends to do....you may know your dog is just friendly and wanting to play but the spaniel owner just sees a strange dog ( or in this case initially two strange dogs) rushing up to his. Like I say I don't condone kicking any animal but a panicking owner thinking their dog is under attack may lash out in the heat of the moment and probably really regrets it. This does not however render them some kind of dreadful serial animal abuser.

i think it's time people, ALL PEOPLE, thought a bit more before casting blame all the time. xx

As someone who has had their (on lead) dogs harassed by loose dogs (of various types), i wholeheartedly agree with this post. I think it shows a responsible attitude to safety, after all, things can get out of hand so quickly and it is no fun to feel like a victim when your dog has been injured.

 

[Debbie b]

I'm sorry for the Op's dog being kicked as I think kicking a dog is reprehensible however I have to say that one persons idea of their dog "capering" around with a complete strangers dog, may appear to the stranger as a completely unknown dog menacing their pet. it is posted about on here, plenty of times, how much we all hate other peoples dogs just running up and interfering etc...you can't have it both ways
it's no more acceptable for our dogs to menace others or other dogs to menace ours.

remember when a strange dog rushes up to you, you have no idea what that dog intends to do....you may know your dog is just friendly and wanting to play but the spaniel owner just sees a strange dog ( or in this case initially two strange dogs) rushing up to his. Like I say I don't condone kicking any animal but a panicking owner thinking their dog is under attack may lash out in the heat of the moment and probably really regrets it. This does not however render them some kind of dreadful serial animal abuser.

i think it's time people, ALL PEOPLE, thought a bit more before casting blame all the time. xx

As someone who has had their (on lead) dogs harassed by loose dogs (of various types), i wholeheartedly agree with this post. I think it shows a responsible attitude to safety, after all, things can get out of hand so quickly and it is no fun to feel like a victim when your dog has been injured.

Over the years i have owned, 10 greyhounds, 6 at one time and all mine came off the lead over the park, but when mine were on the lead and strange dogs came up, i didn't decide i was going to kick the dog, i stood still until the owner came and put theirs on a lead, if the said greyhound wasn't ripping lumps out of the spaniel and blood every where then who the hell does the spaniel owner think he is , by kicking someone elses dogs, the trouble is there is so many nerotic owners out there and see a greyhound off the lead they automatically think that because its a greyhound it going to tear the poor little dog up which is not the case because at the end of the day a greyhound is a dog aswell

 

[Whippets Rule]

I'm sorry for the Op's dog being kicked as I think kicking a dog is reprehensible however I have to say that one persons idea of their dog "capering" around with a complete strangers dog, may appear to the stranger as a completely unknown dog menacing their pet. it is posted about on here, plenty of times, how much we all hate other peoples dogs just running up and interfering etc...you can't have it both ways
it's no more acceptable for our dogs to menace others or other dogs to menace ours.

remember when a strange dog rushes up to you, you have no idea what that dog intends to do....you may know your dog is just friendly and wanting to play but the spaniel owner just sees a strange dog ( or in this case initially two strange dogs) rushing up to his. Like I say I don't condone kicking any animal but a panicking owner thinking their dog is under attack may lash out in the heat of the moment and probably really regrets it. This does not however render them some kind of dreadful serial animal abuser.

i think it's time people, ALL PEOPLE, thought a bit more before casting blame all the time. xx

As someone who has had their (on lead) dogs harassed by loose dogs (of various types), i wholeheartedly agree with this post. I think it shows a responsible attitude to safety, after all, things can get out of hand so quickly and it is no fun to feel like a victim when your dog has been injured.

Over the years i have owned, 10 greyhounds, 6 at one time and all mine came off the lead over the park, but when mine were on the lead and strange dogs came up, i didn't decide i was going to kick the dog, i stood still until the owner came and put theirs on a lead, if the said greyhound wasn't ripping lumps out of the spaniel and blood every where then who the hell does the spaniel owner think he is , by kicking someone elses dogs, the trouble is there is so many nerotic owners out there and see a greyhound off the lead they automatically think that because its a greyhound it going to tear the poor little dog up which is not the case because at the end of the day a greyhound is a dog aswell

I very much doubt the spaniel owner thought about kicking the greyhound, like I said people can panic.it's fortunate for you that you are extremely calm and able to stand and wait while your dog is possibly being menaced but not everyone is you....all people are individual and react differently to situations.

it doesn't matter whether one person considers some other dog owners neurotic,they have every right to be whatever they are and every right to walk their dogs unmolested by other peoples dogs.

it doesn't matter whether the approaching dog is a greyhound or a yorkshire terrier, they are both dogs and ANY dog can bite and potentially rip lumps out of another. I wouldn't stand and wait for someone to come and put their dog on a lead if my dog appeared to be being attacked, I would do what I felt I needed to in order to protect my dog. Like I have said , kicking a dog is horrible but unless you know what the spaniel owner and his dog have been through no one can necessarily say that he over reacted.

Also just to add extra thought, was the spaniel owner actually kicking the dog to hurt it or possibly pushing it away with his foot??? from a distance these acts look much the same....he could perhaps have just been trying to fend off the greyhound in order to protect his dog????

before I get flamed please remember I had to have my dog pts after he was attacked by Staffordshire Bull Terrier and I can fully and wholeheartedly understand how it feels to have a dog attacked randomly by a strange dog who just ran up to apparently "caper" about. I actually didn't kick this dog at all, i choked it with its collar until it let my lifeless limp little man go....now some people would brand me cruel for choking another dog but I defy any of you not to do whatever it takes to protect your pet.

It's very easy to say you just wait for the owner to put the lead on....until you are faced with an unexpected and frightening situation where you don't have the opportunity of foresight.

xx

 

[Debbie b]

I very much doubt the spaniel owner thought about kicking the greyhound, like I said people can panic.it's fortunate for you that you are extremely calm and able to stand and wait while your dog is possibly being menaced but not everyone is you....all people are individual and react differently to situations.

it doesn't matter whether one person considers some other dog owners neurotic,they have every right to be whatever they are and every right to walk their dogs unmolested by other peoples dogs.

it doesn't matter whether the approaching dog is a greyhound or a yorkshire terrier, they are both dogs and ANY dog can bite and potentially rip lumps out of another. I wouldn't stand and wait for someone to come and put their dog on a lead if my dog appeared to be being attacked, I would do what I felt I needed to in order to protect my dog. Like I have said , kicking a dog is horrible but unless you know what the spaniel owner and his dog have been through no one can necessarily say that he over reacted.

Also just to add extra thought, was the spaniel owner actually kicking the dog to hurt it or possibly pushing it away with his foot??? from a distance these acts look much the same....he could perhaps have just been trying to fend off the greyhound in order to protect his dog????

before I get flamed please remember I had to have my dog pts after he was attacked by Staffordshire Bull Terrier and I can fully and wholeheartedly understand how it feels to have a dog attacked randomly by a strange dog who just ran up to apparently "caper" about. I actually didn't kick this dog at all, i choked it with its collar until it let my lifeless limp little man go....now some people would brand me cruel for choking another dog but I defy any of you not to do whatever it takes to protect your pet.

It's very easy to say you just wait for the owner to put the lead on....until you are faced with an unexpected and frightening situation where you don't have the opportunity of foresight.

xx

I am very sorry that your dog was attacked and you had to put him to sleep, i feel for you truly, but my point about waiting for the owner to put their dog on the lead was if it just came up to mine, and was pestering, i have no doubt and have done if a dog was a threat or tried to attack mine then i would also do what i thought was best in the circumstances, many a time i let mine off, so they stood some chance of getting out of the way of teeth and christ knows what else, and my comment about nerotic owners well im affraid there is loads out there, at the moment i have a working jack russell, when it comes to other dogs people and children i can be 100% sure that she wouldn't hurt anyone, but where i live there a few pople that do string their dogs up on their leads and half choke them because they think, that its going to be attacked, if they have had a bad experience before, why do they insist in following you round the fields and if ellie go's any where near them they do that,

Going back to when i had my greyhounds sometimes when i walked them i got comments like you should have so many of them nasty dogs or why can't you walk your dogs some where else i mean come you must agree with me there are some people out there that have no idea about dogs and really shouldn't own one

every body as you say is different and have their own opinions,

so if i offended you i am sorry, but it wasn't intentional

 

[TTT]

I'm sorry for the Op's dog being kicked as I think kicking a dog is reprehensible however I have to say that one persons idea of their dog "capering" around with a complete strangers dog, may appear to the stranger as a completely unknown dog menacing their pet. it is posted about on here, plenty of times, how much we all hate other peoples dogs just running up and interfering etc...you can't have it both ways
it's no more acceptable for our dogs to menace others or other dogs to menace ours.

remember when a strange dog rushes up to you, you have no idea what that dog intends to do....you may know your dog is just friendly and wanting to play but the spaniel owner just sees a strange dog ( or in this case initially two strange dogs) rushing up to his. Like I say I don't condone kicking any animal but a panicking owner thinking their dog is under attack may lash out in the heat of the moment and probably really regrets it. This does not however render them some kind of dreadful serial animal abuser.

i think it's time people, ALL PEOPLE, thought a bit more before casting blame all the time. xx

As someone who has had their (on lead) dogs harassed by loose dogs (of various types), i wholeheartedly agree with this post. I think it shows a responsible attitude to safety, after all, things can get out of hand so quickly and it is no fun to feel like a victim when your dog has been injured.

Over the years i have owned, 10 greyhounds, 6 at one time and all mine came off the lead over the park, but when mine were on the lead and strange dogs came up, i didn't decide i was going to kick the dog, i stood still until the owner came and put theirs on a lead, if the said greyhound wasn't ripping lumps out of the spaniel and blood every where then who the hell does the spaniel owner think he is , by kicking someone elses dogs, the trouble is there is so many nerotic owners out there and see a greyhound off the lead they automatically think that because its a greyhound it going to tear the poor little dog up which is not the case because at the end of the day a greyhound is a dog aswell

I very much doubt the spaniel owner thought about kicking the greyhound, like I said people can panic.it's fortunate for you that you are extremely calm and able to stand and wait while your dog is possibly being menaced but not everyone is you....all people are individual and react differently to situations.

it doesn't matter whether one person considers some other dog owners neurotic,they have every right to be whatever they are and every right to walk their dogs unmolested by other peoples dogs.

it doesn't matter whether the approaching dog is a greyhound or a yorkshire terrier, they are both dogs and ANY dog can bite and potentially rip lumps out of another. I wouldn't stand and wait for someone to come and put their dog on a lead if my dog appeared to be being attacked, I would do what I felt I needed to in order to protect my dog. Like I have said , kicking a dog is horrible but unless you know what the spaniel owner and his dog have been through no one can necessarily say that he over reacted.

Also just to add extra thought, was the spaniel owner actually kicking the dog to hurt it or possibly pushing it away with his foot??? from a distance these acts look much the same....he could perhaps have just been trying to fend off the greyhound in order to protect his dog????

before I get flamed please remember I had to have my dog pts after he was attacked by Staffordshire Bull Terrier and I can fully and wholeheartedly understand how it feels to have a dog attacked randomly by a strange dog who just ran up to apparently "caper" about. I actually didn't kick this dog at all, i choked it with its collar until it let my lifeless limp little man go....now some people would brand me cruel for choking another dog but I defy any of you not to do whatever it takes to protect your pet.

It's very easy to say you just wait for the owner to put the lead on....until you are faced with an unexpected and frightening situation where you don't have the opportunity of foresight.

xx

Reading that makes me feel sick to the core. It must have been a dreadful experience for you. I must admit that after being harassed by loose dogs - often their owners shouting 'it's ok, he won't bite' whilst 100 metres away, (how can they possibly say their dog is under control or take the appropriate action if the S*%t hits the fan and a fight breaks out?). I now carry a 'walking stick' when i am walking my dogs and would not hesitate to use it if the situation called for it.

 

[Beerhound]

My dogs run free everyday but I only let them met off lead dogs that I know and trust. I always recall put them on lead if I see strange dogs whether the strange dogs are on or off lead. I have on several occasions cut my walk short because of other dogs that appear to be out of control whilst off lead. I am not risking my dogs. Josh has laid flat by FIVE Golden Retrievers whose owner was no where in sight and when she appeared told me to f*** off when I said she should control her dogs. Brad has been bitten by a GSD, whose owner laid into it with a chain lead and dragged it away. Both my two were under conrol and on the way back to me when these situations happened.

 

[Whippets Rule]

I am very sorry that your dog was attacked and you had to put him to sleep, i feel for you truly, but my point about waiting for the owner to put their dog on the lead was if it just came up to mine, and was pestering, i have no doubt and have done if a dog was a threat or tried to attack mine then i would also do what i thought was best in the circumstances, many a time i let mine off, so they stood some chance of getting out of the way of teeth and christ knows what else, and my comment about nerotic owners well im affraid there is loads out there, at the moment i have a working jack russell, when it comes to other dogs people and children i can be 100% sure that she wouldn't hurt anyone, but where i live there a few pople that do string their dogs up on their leads and half choke them because they think, that its going to be attacked, if they have had a bad experience before, why do they insist in following you round the fields and if ellie go's any where near them they do that, Going back to when i had my greyhounds sometimes when i walked them i got comments like you should have so many of them nasty dogs or why can't you walk your dogs some where else i mean come you must agree with me there are some people out there that have no idea about dogs and really shouldn't own one

every body as you say is different and have their own opinions,

so if i offended you i am sorry, but it wasn't intentional

Hi, you didn't offend me at all really, it's just that everyone's idea of neurotic is different....i totally understand what you mean about people cringing away, one of my whippets is muzzled when on lead( for his own safety as he is a bit short sighted due to iris cysts and he can be snappy when things startle him)and certain people on seeing a muzzled dog will pick up theirs and cringe away. now this irritates me because he's not some kind of devil dog.

by the same token i have to confess that if i see a staff off lead up ahead i will cross the road automatically and i make no apology for it, i will never forget what happened to my dog Moscow but i certainly don't cringe or throttle my dogs to get away lol (One of the vets at the practice where i work has a lovely staff and i cuddle her all the time, she's really lovely.)

it also bugs me when i walk towards people in town and they see three whippets and they pull their children behind them and the children are virtually screaming because there's a dog or two...my dogs just walk past and give them all a snotty look.

i think greyhounds are fab and if we hadn't had rescued whippets we would have had rescue greys.

i just think that it is possible the spaniel owner had been through something frightening to have reacted in the way he did is all and it's easy to judge from hearsay.

 

[Beerhound]

it also bugs me when i walk towards people in town and they see three whippets and they pull their children behind them and the children are virtually screaming because there's a dog or two

I used to walk to school with my son and take the Whippets with me- it was a good mile and a half there and back so gave them a decent walk. Anyway I used to get people grabbing their kids and crossing the road and one person even had a go for walking them along the footpath near a school at the time the kids were going in. My dogs were on lead and not interfering with anyone.