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Were you the only whippet to turn up ? :- " :cheers: o

& at least 1 other Hound too

 

[dessie]

CONGRATULATIONS!!
Sounds like you had a fab day  :thumbsup:

Nina

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Better than ours, wasn't it Nina ? :- "

The judge even withheld VHC in grad and open It was only an open show :wacko:

And of the 5 dogs he thought wasn't good enough to be considered worthy of the 5th placings 1 has a res CC

[SIZE=14pt]Well done Dawn[/SIZE] :thumbsup:

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Do tell us who the judge was :- " One to avoid me thinks

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Roy Baker (allrounder)

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Syblec affix or something like that ? Smart chap , 50ish , grey hair . If it is him he gave Libbee best of breed and the group last summer at Brigford and dist :b

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Yep thats him........... nothing wrong with the dogs he did place today, some I like very much :thumbsup: BOB went to the puppy.

Just feel to withhold vhc in 2 classes at an open show is a bit sad !!

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The other thing that annoyed me is that he did not give each dog their 'money's worth'. He barely went over TJ on the table whereas others he went over them with a fine tooth comb. He made it blatantly obvious that he wasn't interested before he ever saw him move up and down. I don't mind whether he liked him or not but it is just plain rudeness not to give equal attention to all exhibits.

 

[dessie]

Sorry, forgot to say Congratulations Dawn!!!!

How did you get on with the turkey???

 

[chelynnah]

Was more p****d off by a half starved dog & neurotic vegetarian owner wanting to breed this poor pathetic mite!  :rant:

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Hmmm that scenario sounds VERY familiar....... Can there be more than one of these people????

And BIG congrats to our relatives!!!!

Wendy

 

[~JO~]

Was more p****d off by a half starved dog & neurotic vegetarian owner wanting to breed this poor pathetic mite!  :rant:

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Hmmm that scenario sounds VERY familiar....... Can there be more than one of these people????

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PMSL :lol: :lol: Thats what I was thinking!!!

 

[nina]

Was more p****d off by a half starved dog & neurotic vegetarian owner wanting to breed this poor pathetic mite!  :rant:

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Hmmm that scenario sounds VERY familiar....... Can there be more than one of these people????

And BIG congrats to our relatives!!!!

Wendy

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Good God i hope not (w00t)

Strangest person i have ever met, never seen them before in my life but marched up & joined in on a conversation, then within minutes started shreiking like a banshee, told us we were all wicked people & marched off???

Nina

 

[lalena]

Was more p****d off by a half starved dog & neurotic vegetarian owner wanting to breed this poor pathetic mite!  :rant:

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Hmmm that scenario sounds VERY familiar....... Can there be more than one of these people????

And BIG congrats to our relatives!!!!

Wendy

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Good God i hope not (w00t)

Strangest person i have ever met, never seen them before in my life but marched up & joined in on a conversation, then within minutes started shreiking like a banshee, told us we were all wicked people & marched off???

Nina

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i'm guessing he was out on day release? :- "

 

[Roedeane]

Well.........................................What a day!!
Best Veteran in Group with 'U' whippet

(Didnt stay for BIS cos the weather was getting bad and I had a Turkey to return )

Best of Breed and Group 2 with Cleena!! (and I was handling not Richard)

I thought I had drawn the short straw having to show Cleena  (we have decided because she is so naughty that she is a 'special needs' whippet)

Will try and get a photo later with her rosettes if they havent been eaten by then (w00t)

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From what I saw as a spectator methinks it is the handlers who have special needs :- " :lol:

 

[JAX]

Well.........................................What a day!!
Best Veteran in Group with 'U' whippet

(Didnt stay for BIS cos the weather was getting bad and I had a Turkey to return )

Best of Breed and Group 2 with Cleena!! (and I was handling not Richard)

I thought I had drawn the short straw having to show Cleena  (we have decided because she is so naughty that she is a 'special needs' whippet)

Will try and get a photo later with her rosettes if they havent been eaten by then (w00t)

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From what I saw as a spectator methinks it is the handlers who have special needs :- " :lol:

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Love it , well done Yvette :thumbsup: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[dawn]

At least WE wear jackets where the sleeves have been left out

 

[dawn]

At least WE wear jackets where the sleeves have NOT been cut off

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Dont know what happened there Maybe I should hibernate longer

 

[jools]

Well done Dawn - must have been the expert handling that did it!!!

Re Roy Baker, he was judging whippets earlier this year, I asked a few people what they thought and got the same answer from them all - they named the handler who would get BOB and BP - I didn't bother entering, asked a friend who did go - and yes everyone was right, the nameless one did get BOB and BP!!! As Roy Baker is a northener, his reputation is well know in these parts apparently!!!

 

[chelynnah]

Was more p****d off by a half starved dog & neurotic vegetarian owner wanting to breed this poor pathetic mite! :rant:

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Hmmm that scenario sounds VERY familiar....... Can there be more than one of these people????

And BIG congrats to our relatives!!!!

Wendy

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Good God i hope not (w00t)

Strangest person i have ever met, never seen them before in my life but marched up & joined in on a conversation, then within minutes started shreiking like a banshee, told us we were all wicked people & marched off???

Nina

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i'm guessing he was out on day release? :- "

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Was it a 'he' or a 'she' (the neurotic vegetarian owner)

Wendy

 

[nina]

Was it a 'he' or a 'she' (the neurotic vegetarian owner)
Wendy

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Thats debatable (w00t)

No, seriously it wasn't a he.

I know we are kidding around BUT i was very concerned for the poor dog in question as the person had waffled on about mating it but would have to get some weight on it as it wouldn't eat at all which was why it was so terribly thin & as she made this statement a lady next to us got a dish of turkey for her her dog & this poor skinny little mites eyes bulged, it lurched forward & grabbed the biggest mouthful of Turkey i have ever seen & didn't even chew it just swallowed it whole, the poor thing was ravenous.

I happened to say "well i dont know about her NOT eating but she just snatched that quick enough" & that is when all hell broke loose.

The person in question then ranted & raved that they were a vegetarian & would not compromise their beleifs & their dogs would never be fed meat over their dead body, they were fed vegetables & who the hell did i think i was to say their dog was hungry blah blah blah.

I respect anyones beleif's BUT why inflict it on your dog? A dog has to have protein amongst other things & this poor wee mite was like a hat rack, NO WAY could she rear a litter, i hate to think what the pups would look like. I think if you had of put a dish of good food in front of her it would have been gone in a second.

Apologies to anyone if i am speaking out of turn BUT it was upsetting to see a dog so thin & be told it just wouldn't eat, then see it snatch food like it had never been fed & just gollop it whole nearly choking

 

[lalena]

Was it a 'he' or a 'she' (the neurotic vegetarian owner)
Wendy

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Thats debatable (w00t)

No, seriously it wasn't a he.

I know we are kidding around BUT i was very concerned for the poor dog in question as the person had waffled on about mating it but would have to get some weight on it as it wouldn't eat at all which was why it was so terribly thin & as she made this statement a lady next to us got a dish of turkey for her her dog & this poor skinny little mites eyes bulged, it lurched forward & grabbed the biggest mouthful of Turkey i have ever seen & didn't even chew it just swallowed it whole, the poor thing was ravenous.

I happened to say "well i dont know about her NOT eating but she just snatched that quick enough" & that is when all hell broke loose.

The person in question then ranted & raved that they were a vegetarian & would not compromise their beleifs & their dogs would never be fed meat over their dead body, they were fed vegetables & who the hell did i think i was to say their dog was hungry blah blah blah.

I respect anyones beleif's BUT why inflict it on your dog? A dog has to have protein amongst other things & this poor wee mite was like a hat rack, NO WAY could she rear a litter, i hate to think what the pups would look like. I think if you had of put a dish of good food in front of her it would have been gone in a second.

Apologies to anyone if i am speaking out of turn BUT it was upsetting to see a dog so thin & be told it just wouldn't eat, then see it snatch food like it had never been fed & just gollop it whole nearly choking

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reminds of of a scene from the film shirley valentine :lol: shouldnt laugh, really :b but in that film shes looking after her neighbours basset hound? and couldnt help but give it the steak she was supposed to cook for her husband.

there is nothing unnatural about dogs eating meat :angry: its the way they evolved, they are born predators! if this 'caring' person didnt want to violate her principals, she should feed her dog complete dry food! there is no way a malnourished, starved bitch would cope with a pregnancy if she even took, it would harm her, and never mind the demands of nursing a litter!

 

[nina]

reminds of of a scene from the film shirley valentine :lol: shouldnt laugh, really :b   but in that film shes looking after her neighbours basset hound? and couldnt help but give it the steak she was supposed to cook for her husband. there is nothing unnatural about dogs eating meat :angry: its the way they evolved, they are born predators! if this 'caring' person didnt want to violate her principals, she should feed her dog complete dry food! there is no way a malnourished, starved bitch would cope with a pregnancy if she even took, it would harm her, and never mind the demands of nursing a litter!

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Exactly right! We all feed our dogs differently, some may choose fresh meats, some complete diets, whatever suits you & your dogs needs i certainly would not knock anyone's feeding regime, if it works for you & your dogs, great.

Also i know there are picky, faddy eaters that are difficult to put weight on & these can be a nightmare, BUT...........to see a dog where by you can count every bone in its body, be told it just wont eat anything, everything has been tried, then see it snatch food like that, something just doesn't ring true.

Then when you receive a barrage of abuse & nonsense about dogs being vegetarians & see this poor mite dragged off still frantically trying to scrabble back for another mouthful of food, i'm afraid alarm bells start ringing.

I think the words "eccentric, totally OTT & not the full ticket" spring to mind (w00t)

 

[lalena]

reminds of of a scene from the film shirley valentine :lol: shouldnt laugh, really :b   but in that film shes looking after her neighbours basset hound? and couldnt help but give it the steak she was supposed to cook for her husband. there is nothing unnatural about dogs eating meat :angry: its the way they evolved, they are born predators! if this 'caring' person didnt want to violate her principals, she should feed her dog complete dry food! there is no way a malnourished, starved bitch would cope with a pregnancy if she even took, it would harm her, and never mind the demands of nursing a litter!

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Exactly right! We all feed our dogs differently, some may choose fresh meats, some complete diets, whatever suits you & your dogs needs i certainly would not knock anyone's feeding regime, if it works for you & your dogs, great.

Also i know there are picky, faddy eaters that are difficult to put weight on & these can be a nightmare, BUT...........to see a dog where by you can count every bone in its body, be told it just wont eat anything, everything has been tried, then see it snatch food like that, something just doesn't ring true.

Then when you receive a barrage of abuse & nonsense about dogs being vegetarians & see this poor mite dragged off still frantically trying to scrabble back for another mouthful of food, i'm afraid alarm bells start ringing.

I think the words "eccentric, totally OTT & not the full ticket" spring to mind (w00t)

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all the misguided fool needs is to examine her dogs teeth, then her own! man is an omnivore, meaning adapted to eat meat and plants. hence our flat molars, for grinding down fibrous vegetive material. carnivores have dagger like teeth, for tearing (w00t)

dry food doesnt look, smell, feel like meat, so i cant see why she'd willingly starve her dog! at the very least, any youngster, regardless of species, needs a proper diet to form a healthy base! thats why children shouldnt be vegetarian!

oooh, this really winds me up, can you tell :b

 

[chelynnah]

Was it a 'he' or a 'she' (the neurotic vegetarian owner)
Wendy

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Thats debatable (w00t)

No, seriously it wasn't a he.

I know we are kidding around BUT i was very concerned for the poor dog in question as the person had waffled on about mating it but would have to get some weight on it as it wouldn't eat at all which was why it was so terribly thin & as she made this statement a lady next to us got a dish of turkey for her her dog & this poor skinny little mites eyes bulged, it lurched forward & grabbed the biggest mouthful of Turkey i have ever seen & didn't even chew it just swallowed it whole, the poor thing was ravenous.

I happened to say "well i dont know about her NOT eating but she just snatched that quick enough" & that is when all hell broke loose.

The person in question then ranted & raved that they were a vegetarian & would not compromise their beleifs & their dogs would never be fed meat over their dead body, they were fed vegetables & who the hell did i think i was to say their dog was hungry blah blah blah.

I respect anyones beleif's BUT why inflict it on your dog? A dog has to have protein amongst other things & this poor wee mite was like a hat rack, NO WAY could she rear a litter, i hate to think what the pups would look like. I think if you had of put a dish of good food in front of her it would have been gone in a second.

Apologies to anyone if i am speaking out of turn BUT it was upsetting to see a dog so thin & be told it just wouldn't eat, then see it snatch food like it had never been fed & just gollop it whole nearly choking

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Okay - it's not who I thought it might be - that's scary! At least the one I know WILL feed them meat, but it has to be in things like sausage rolls, or something that she can't smell if she has to deal with it. And she does feed kibble which contains meat, so at least it's not soooo bad. And if I'd handed her dogs turkey she'd let them have it.

Scary stuff

The bizarre thing is that on the raw feeding lists I'm on there are a LOT of vegetarians who feed their dogs raw. They know that's a natural diet for the dog so they suck it up for the dogs' sake, while still following a veggie regime for themselves.

Wendy

 

[beaker]

good god!! why did this person get a dog, surely a rabbit would have been a better option

thats not sticking to principles and beleif its flippin neglect and cruelty :angry:

so glad i wasn't there :rant:

 

[nina]

Okay - it's not who I thought it might be - that's scary!  At least the one I know WILL feed them meat, but it has to be in things like sausage rolls, or something that she can't smell if she has to deal with it.  And she does feed kibble which contains meat, so at least it's not soooo bad.  And if I'd handed her dogs turkey she'd let them have it.
Scary stuff

The bizarre thing is that on the raw feeding lists I'm on there are a LOT of vegetarians who feed their dogs raw.  They know that's a natural diet for the dog so they suck it up for the dogs' sake, while still following a veggie regime for themselves.

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No this one nearly freaked out when she saw her dog snatch the Turkey, nearly choked the poor thing to get it away but it had already swallowed it whole.

Said she would not compromise her beliefs for anything, i tried to say well thats fine & i'm sure people respect how you feel but surely if you are so concerned about your dog being so underweight you would relax your attitude & at least try your dog with something you felt she would eat & do her some good, but she said absolutely not vegetables are as good for my dog as me???

I respect anyone who is a vegetarian, i am NOT but having said that i dont eat red meat only cos i dont like it but will happily eat chicken, so i guess its each to their own but i do worry about a dog looking that thin & undernourished & the owner contemplating breeding from her in this condition being fed only a diet of vegetables which she obviously wasn't eating or wasn't doing her much good.

As we all know a litter takes a hell of a lot out of a bitch & feeding at this time is of the utmost importance as the litter take everything from the bitch & this poor little mite had nothing to give

I only hope if this person is serious, any potential stud owner that she makes enquiries with to perhaps use a dog, takes on board the condition of the bitch when seen & refuses the stud.

If on the other hand she has her own stud available, then god help that poor little bitch