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[~JO~]

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Came across this website today Studyourdog.com

I would be interested to hear peoples opinions.... What is worrying they don't have their pedigrees or breeding listed

I know I wouldn't want to list my dog on there as I wuld hope that anyone who would want ot breed would have done their research on a sire they would hope to use and gone to see him in the flesh (at shows, racing etc etc) and wouldn't need to find a dog on the internet! (w00t)

 

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Came across this website today Studyourdog.com

I would be interested to hear peoples opinions.... What is worrying they don't have their pedigrees or breeding listed

I know I wouldn't want to list my dog on there as I wuld hope that anyone who would want ot breed would have done their research on a sire they would hope to use and gone to see him in the flesh (at shows, racing etc etc) and wouldn't need to find a dog on the internet! (w00t)

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seems straight forward, as you say anyone wanting to breed will do their research seems to be lots of info on the adverts the ones without peds or breeding listed may supply at request

 

[~JO~]

seems straight forward, as you say anyone wanting to breed will do their research seems to be lots of info on the adverts the ones without peds or breeding listed may supply at request

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No I said I would 'hope' they did their research, there are lots of people that do absolutely no research and just use the first dog they come across.....

 

[quintessence]

Had a quick look and thought it wasn't a bad site. I looked at several breeds and some eg Pointers gave lots of information in the stud adverts, several breeds had well-known kennels advertising. If people want to breed a litter they will, for whatever reason, and we just have to hope that the resulting puppies go to loving homes.

Jenny

 

[~JO~]

Had a quick look and thought it wasn't a bad site.  I looked at several breeds and some eg Pointers gave lots of information in the stud adverts, several breeds had well-known kennels advertising. If people want to breed a litter they will, for whatever reason, and we just have to hope that the resulting puppies go to loving homes.
Jenny

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Yes just had a look at the pointers....some very good information on those adverts.. however the 'bitch 3 days into season need stud dog' advert is the type I worry about.

You are right Jenny but I am not just concerned about good loving homes but more the health of the dogs and the future of the breeds in general.

 

[TC]

Difficult to know what to say really, I had no idea such a site was out there.

One advert that I looked at said that their bitch was three days into season and they were looking for a stud! No research, no planning, nothing. Just 'Oh she's come in, we'd better get a dog quick then' sort of attitude :fool:

I notice they are also advertising litters, so this site may become the new Epupz maybe? I suppose by combining the two services, they are just taking it to the next level :fool:

Personally I don't like it, and think it could be quite dangerous in respect of encouraging people to use dogs willynilly based on a pic in an advert.

I'm not a breeder, but it I were ever to let one of mine be used at stud, there'd be a hell of a lot of prior research going on. It is not something I think can be gone into lightly. If my dogs genes are being passed on they need to be matched with a suitable bitch, not just one that read my advert and thought my dog looked nice faults on both sides would need to be addressed as well as lineage.

TCx

 

[quintessence]

I agree Jo that one concerned me as well but I think it is just putting it on a computer screen in front of our eyes what happens anyway.

I recently refused a stud for one of my dogs, the owner of the bitch, very well bred, (whippet that is - not sure about the owner) had been given my name by a customer in our shop, and I got a phone call asking if I was the lady with the whippets. I had a chat and asked why she wanted to breed, tried to give her some advice, and she listened very carefully and then asked me if I knew anyone else with a stud dog!! I advised her to go back to the bitch's breeder but i'm not sure what happened. People will always find a stud dog if they desperately want one and I don't know how you safeguard the breed unless the Kennel Club limit the number of litters a dog can sire in any one year, can't see them doing that somehow.

Jenny

 

[TC]

Had a quick look and thought it wasn't a bad site.  I looked at several breeds and some eg Pointers gave lots of information in the stud adverts, several breeds had well-known kennels advertising. If people want to breed a litter they will, for whatever reason, and we just have to hope that the resulting puppies go to loving homes.
Jenny

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I see what you mean about people breeding if they want to, but I feel that this sort of site just makes it easier for them.

I know that often people want a puppy from their dog as they think it's lovely, and so it makes sense to them to have a litter, and then they might use a dog that they know. I have known people in the past who have not considered the implications of the sire's genes being dominant and they actually end up with a litter of pup who bear little resemblance physically or mentally to their 'little girl' I'm not saying this is always the case, but I have personal experience of this scenario on more than one occasion

To me, this site will encourage people who have a bitch and want puppies to definitely breed. Where as they might not actually know a dog (and so therefore give up on the idea) that they want to use, this tool gives them everything they need

 

[TC]

I agree Jo that one concerned me as well but I think it is just putting it on a computer screen in front of our eyes what happens anyway.
I  recently refused a stud for one of my dogs, the owner of the bitch, very well bred, (whippet that is - not sure about the owner)  had been given my name by a customer in our shop, and I got a phone call asking if I was the lady with the whippets.  I had a chat and asked why she wanted to breed, tried to give her some advice, and she listened very carefully and then  asked me if I knew anyone else with a stud dog!!  I advised her to go back to the bitch's breeder but i'm not sure what happened.  People will always find a stud dog if they desperately want one and I don't know how you safeguard the breed unless the Kennel Club limit the number of litters a dog can sire in any one year, can't see them doing that somehow.

Jenny

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I know, and it will always go on

On Sunday, someone I had never met before (very nice person) approached me and asked to use Ruso on his bitch when she was old enough (currently 3 months old)

The whole breeding thing is a nightmare.

 

[StudYourDog.com]

Hi there, noticed we were getting a lot of hits today from this page, so i thought i'd come and see what was being said. I'd like to put my point of view accross if i may.

This site was started becuase of a lack of resources available online for breeders. We here breed chows, and we had our own site that was very popular, we were approached by many people asking if we'd advertise their dogs also. We researched what else was availablle and found some atrocious adverts in free publications such as lott, admart freeads etc etc. No information, no photos, not a great deal of anything really, just examples of Staff stud £50 call 12345 6789. And beacuase there was no other compatition online for these places, i could just imagine how many enquiries these people were getting, and so studyourdog.com was born.

We feel by charging people to advertise, firstly takes away the adverts you see above. We have a good control of what people can and can't say, we do quite often refuse adverts, we remove adverts if any bad feedback is recieved. All things these free publications will never do.

Finally, with regard to the adverts for studs wanted, that you are refering to above. We feel that by placing these novice adverts on our site, good reputable breeders can educate. If we didnt place these adverts, then these people would just contact "Mr Staffy £50" and the rest is as you'd expect. We have full control over who contacts these advertisers, and do not forward responses that we feel are not resposible and ethical.

Thankyou for reading, if you did.

Gareth Prosser - Studyourdog.com

 

[mazza]

Had a quick look and the Weimaraner puppy ad caught my eye, "this is the 3rd litter from these two parents"!!! Looks like this breeder likes to churn out puppies!

 

[~JO~]

Hi there, noticed we were getting a lot of hits today from this page, so i thought i'd come and see what was being said. I'd like to put my point of view accross if i may.This site was started becuase of a lack of resources available online for breeders. We here breed chows, and we had our own site that was very popular, we were approached by many people asking if we'd advertise their dogs also. We researched what else was availablle and found some atrocious adverts in free publications such as lott, admart freeads etc etc. No information, no photos, not a great deal of anything really, just examples of Staff stud £50 call 12345 6789. And beacuase there was no other compatition online for these places, i could just imagine how many enquiries these people were getting, and so studyourdog.com was born.

We feel by charging people to advertise, firstly takes away the adverts you see above.  We have a good control of what people can and can't say, we do quite often refuse adverts, we remove adverts if any bad feedback is recieved. All things these free publications will never do.

Finally, with regard to the adverts for studs wanted, that you are refering to above. We feel that by placing these novice adverts on our site, good reputable breeders can educate. If we didnt place these adverts, then these people would just contact "Mr Staffy £50" and the rest is as you'd expect. We have full control over who contacts these advertisers, and do not forward responses that we feel are not resposible and ethical.

Thankyou for reading, if you did.

Gareth Prosser - Studyourdog.com

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Thanks for posting It is very interestings seeing how these sites work, I need to think about this one!

 

[TC]

Hi there, noticed we were getting a lot of hits today from this page, so i thought i'd come and see what was being said. I'd like to put my point of view accross if i may.This site was started becuase of a lack of resources available online for breeders. We here breed chows, and we had our own site that was very popular, we were approached by many people asking if we'd advertise their dogs also. We researched what else was availablle and found some atrocious adverts in free publications such as lott, admart freeads etc etc. No information, no photos, not a great deal of anything really, just examples of Staff stud £50 call 12345 6789. And beacuase there was no other compatition online for these places, i could just imagine how many enquiries these people were getting, and so studyourdog.com was born.

We feel by charging people to advertise, firstly takes away the adverts you see above.  We have a good control of what people can and can't say, we do quite often refuse adverts, we remove adverts if any bad feedback is recieved. All things these free publications will never do.

Finally, with regard to the adverts for studs wanted, that you are refering to above. We feel that by placing these novice adverts on our site, good reputable breeders can educate. If we didnt place these adverts, then these people would just contact "Mr Staffy £50" and the rest is as you'd expect. We have full control over who contacts these advertisers, and do not forward responses that we feel are not resposible and ethical.

Thankyou for reading, if you did.

Gareth Prosser - Studyourdog.com

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Thanks for posting, appreciate you taking the time and effort :thumbsup:

Obviously, you will have read my opinion on the whole scenario

Whilst I understand your reasoning, I am still of the mind that this will encourage even more owners with dogs to try and make some money with no real thought to their breed.

I noticed the customer feedback on the home page...

"What a fantastic website! My Shih Tzu is now booked out for many seasons with bitches who have contacted me through the website. You are great value for money and well worth the fee i paid to put my advert on. You guys are fab and so eager to help with any queries i have. Thanks again! Coleen Wilkinson and Fudge"

This just screams money making to me. Clearly, I have no idea who this lady is or whether her dog is carrying a genetic fault or condition. Imagine the impact on the breed if he is producing progeny so prolifically? It doesn't bear thinking about, and I haven't even touched on whether the bitches he is lining are remotely suitable in terms of their lines/type/faults etc?

This is just my opinion, and I respect the fact that you have posted to try and inform us of your reasoning and intention :thumbsup:

 

[quintessence]

Thank you for your posting Gareth and I hope the replies you receive give you food for thought. I have to say I am not too enamoured by your title 'studyourdog.com',

How about changing it to

'doyoureallyneedtobreedalitter.co.uk'

Jenny

 

[TC]

Thank you for your posting Gareth and I hope the replies you receive give you food for thought.  I have to say I am not too enamoured by your title 'studyourdog.com',
How about changing it to

'doyoureallyneedtobreedalitter.co.uk'

Jenny

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Jenny.....I want your brain 8)

 

[dolly]

IMO in encourages the owners of a dear little sophie to think ooh shes in season, needs to be mated tomorrow, lets look on the net and see who we can use quickly !!

Sorry dosent work for me

As a owner of a dog, if a propective ladyfriend for my boy hasnt been arranged before she comes into season, (SUBJECT TO PEDIGREE, TEMPERAMENT, TYPE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND FACILITIES ETC) Not in that order either !!

Then the answer in always [SIZE=14pt]NO[/SIZE]

 

[EJW]

Thank you for your posting Gareth and I hope the replies you receive give you food for thought.  I have to say I am not too enamoured by your title 'studyourdog.com',
How about changing it to

'doyoureallyneedtobreedalitter.co.uk'

Jenny

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Jenny.....I want your brain 8)

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Brilliant! :thumbsup:

 

[Cornish]

I don't go to shows etc so no one would know about Sidney (and they don't)

Hmmm not sure I would want for him to be a Dad but if I was asked I'd think about it.... if ony to have one of his pups :b

I can see the point in a way

 

[kris]

i can see the rescue centres filling up even more quickly with more unwanted puppies soon. sorry it doesnt do anything for me.in my years of showing and breeding i had many pet owners approach me for use of my stud dogs.i turned away far more than i accepted.and ill tell you this.if a pet owner cant find a stud dog or if theres too much effort put into finding one,chances are,THEY WONT BOTHER TO BREED. :thumbsup: all this site will do is make it easier for every tom dick and fanny to mate their bitch and jump on the quick buck bandwagon.it will encourage people to breed who might not have bothered in the first place.i used to try to stop folk breeding from their pet bitch.id explain all the drawbacks,the hours you put in,the costs,the hard work,worry and effort.more often than not theyd not bother.but this site wont do that,all its going to do is to make it easier to do it.well done to the website owners.a quick buck for you,a bigger mess for the rescue centres to mop up.cheers.

 

[imperative]

very interesting and informative post