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I remember reading a bit about whippet tri-colours not being true tri-colours genetically. That they are heavily sabled fawns? I think it was on that colour genetics site but I can't lay my hand on the link. Is that correct? I love "sunsalve's" colouring.
 
julie_s said:
I remember reading a bit about whippet tri-colours not being true tri-colours genetically. That they are heavily sabled fawns? I think it was on that colour genetics site but I can't lay my hand on the link. Is that correct? I love "sunsalve's" colouring.

No, Karen says that whippets do not have the black and tan gene, which is the colour of Dobermans. The tri-colour is a different gene.
 
Seraphina said:
Here is the link, again :)  
colour genetics

Ah thanks for that Seraphina :thumbsup: ...I had misplaced my link to it and could'nt remember the name,I find the whole color/genetics extremely interesting.

But I also think it is odd how our eyes can play tricks with us regarding the whippet in different colors,it is very strange indeed getting your eyes used to looking at a Tri,to me they have totally different look about them yet that can't be as they are still whippets so it has to be the color throwing me? Hmm...maybe I am not explaining myself very well,but I know what I mean!! :lol: :lol:
 
05whippet said:
Seraphina said:
Here is the link, again :)  
colour genetics

Ah thanks for that Seraphina :thumbsup: ...I had misplaced my link to it and could'nt remember the name,I find the whole color/genetics extremely interesting.

But I also think it is odd how our eyes can play tricks with us regarding the whippet in different colors,it is very strange indeed getting your eyes used to looking at a Tri,to me they have totally different look about them yet that can't be as they are still whippets so it has to be the color throwing me? Hmm...maybe I am not explaining myself very well,but I know what I mean!! :lol: :lol:

I know what you mean - I had to look hard really to see them as whippets, the three together look very houndy/hamiltonstovare like
 
meddling said:
05whippet said:
Seraphina said:
Here is the link, again :)  
colour genetics

Ah thanks for that Seraphina :thumbsup: ...I had misplaced my link to it and could'nt remember the name,I find the whole color/genetics extremely interesting.

But I also think it is odd how our eyes can play tricks with us regarding the whippet in different colors,it is very strange indeed getting your eyes used to looking at a Tri,to me they have totally different look about them yet that can't be as they are still whippets so it has to be the color throwing me? Hmm...maybe I am not explaining myself very well,but I know what I mean!! :lol: :lol:

I know what you mean - I had to look hard really to see them as whippets, the three together look very houndy/hamiltonstovare like

Just what I was about to say with a fox hound thrown in
 
05whippet said:
Ah thanks for that Seraphina  :thumbsup: ...I had misplaced my link to it and could'nt remember the name,I find the whole color/genetics extremely interesting.

It is a very useful site, I never miss the opportunity to post the link :)

By the way if you google Whippet colour genetics it comes up

But I also think it is odd how our eyes can play tricks with us regarding the whippet in different colors,it is very strange indeed getting your eyes used to looking at a Tri,to me they have totally different look about them yet that can't be as they are still whippets so it has to be the color throwing me? Hmm...maybe I am not explaining myself very well,but I know what I mean!!  :lol:   :lol:
I know exactly what you mean, I cannot quite get used to this coloring. But then again i prefer my all one colour without any white or stripes :- " :)
 
Seraphina said:
And another photo of Grillemont Aloutte
One of my pups has this coloring. His sabling is still fading on his head, but by the time he is 2, he'll have a fawn head with sabled body patches and a fawn butt spot. When he was born he looked like he was black and white. The fawn didn't show up for months.

His mother was mostly white with watermarked deep, deep red patches and his father was a very clear red and white.

You can clearly see the fade in this picture. His head is turning all fawn very quickly. He won't have a black mask or sabling there for much longer. He's 6 months old in this picture and 8 months now. His body patches are black. He has a large one on his offside but I don't have a picture of it.

Bernie_RWD-BP-PG2_ChesapeakeKC_Denn.jpg
 
The "tri" colour in whippets is not the true tricolour seen in other breeds. Bernese Mountain Dog is a good example of true tricolour. Black (or blue, or chocolate) and tan parts are very well defined, clearly separated one from another.

"Tri" occuring in whippets is probably the same colour, that is seen in many hounds, and in some terriers, too - with black or dark grey saddle on tan, red or greyish background, but with no clean, well defined edges of the black parts. Sometimes the saddle is very large and covers almost the whole body except legs, but the edges are never clean (which is different in true black and tan, like in dobermann). The other difference between these two colour is that the true black and tan is very clear from the very first days, and doesn't change with age, whilst the saddle colour usually is the darkest in newborns and becomes litgher and lighter with age, not only in puppyhood, but in adults as well.

Bloudhound is a good examples of the saddle colour:



and very dark one

 
This dogs also seems to be a saddle tri-colour, but with so much white, that it is barely wisible. It is a Swedish dog exported to Netherlands Bokellas Creme de Cassis (photo from Bokellas website). If I remember correctly, his litter brother Creme de Menthe was of similiar colour.

Cassius1.jpg
 
It's amazing even the different variations in the "tri colours".

Off topic slightly as i've never seen it before there's a non ped bitch racing at the moment has the most bizarre but lovely markings, brilliant white all over with a brindle half face and a jet black bum marking - very aptly goes by the name of "Unique" :)
 
I remember a dog in the early eighties that was a tri colour, he was from the Wellnigh Kennel ,

Only shown afew times then he disappeared as did the lady of Wellnigh note :(

Her most famous dog was Wellnigh Beaubelles, who sired , Ch Samarkands Firewolf , CH S. Beau Ranger and the lovely Ch Dianne of Dondelyo among others :cheers:
 
JAX said:
I remember a dog in the early eighties that was a tri colour, he was from the Wellnigh Kennel
Do you have his name and maybe a pedigree? I am trying to figure out, which dogs may have been carriers of this rare gene. I have some suspects :)
 
Natalia said:
JAX said:
I remember a dog in the early eighties that was a tri colour, he was from the Wellnigh Kennel
Do you have his name and maybe a pedigree? I am trying to figure out, which dogs may have been carriers of this rare gene. I have some suspects :)


No sorry , just that he was a Wellnigh dog
 
do you know what i actually quiet like them they are really different :wub:
 
Pilot Officer of Pardee was a blue, fawn and white tri. I have seen him loads of times and he was a tri. He was owned by Dolly Bradshaw, if you go on the whippet archives and put her name in, all her dogs come up, so you can trace his pedigree!

There is a photo, but being black and white it doesn't really show mean a lot.
 
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Here is 2 bitches we owned that wouldn't be 'true' tri colours

Cappy.jpg


Garganny Angelica

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West Tip
 

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