Two Champs ????

[June Jonigk]

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this is my 2nd post in two years as well so am i not entitled to an opinion?Of course you're entitled to an opinion, as is everyone . Your profile says you have made 75 posts in the last 3 years though :thumbsup: :unsure:

If you are so sure you are right won't racers vote with their feet and come to the Nationals.Didn't you just say everyone should make their own mind up.?

I'm not sure what you're referring to me saying I'm right about, but yes racers will vote with their feet, and yes they should make up their mind!

 

[Gypsy]

it has'nt cheapened the wins for the 30lb and 32lb groups

Having been in this situation, I have to say IT DOES.

Any-one who knows my 32 lb show-bred will admit that he is the slowest dog in the world (with one exception (sorry Dennis AND Pearl :* ).

When my dog reached the finals of this group a couple of years back, he managed to not beat another dog all day and still got a line in his passport.

We don't kid ourselves he deserved it, had their been competition, he wouldn't have got past the fisrt round.

I truly do wish the WCRA had not reinstated their championships on this date, if the NPWRA cancelled, so would they. I wonder if any-one will feel like we did when they only have a couple of dogs in a group and get through, we just thought it was very funny, but never once did we crow about our dog getting to the final.

This is my experience and my opinion.

sorry have i missed the point of going to the champs ? getting into a final is what your hoping for is'nt it ?

Not always,

We go to socialise with friends and have a great week-end away with like-minded folk. I'd never enter my fat show-bred if that was the case :thumbsup:

So after going away to socialise and see friends your still not happy that your dog gets in a final ?

You could always pull out when there's only 4 or less dogs in the final . There you are no fault of your own in a small weight group still not happy to get to a final of the champs, some would love to have a group where they could have the same feeling as you do when you manage to get to a champs final. :thumbsup:

 

[controversial]

i carnt see what the problem with the dates is .if you dont except these dogs as legit then you dont run at the wcra.if you do run at the wcra then you except them so in theory you are backing their legicity and support them so shouldnt run at the nationals.as the meerkat says simples 8)

Its this type of comment that for people who can't make it to worcester for what ever reason will proberly not go to either as they don't want to have their place in a wcra final cheapened by everyone who choses to go to the nationals. If people are saying' freedom of choice go where you like' it still seems there are people who will still bitch about the ones who have not gone to the nationals and the only ones that are missing out if people feel brow beaten into not going to either are our dogs who may not have many chances to race in a championship and attempt to get in a final. Everyone will know who has gone where but will not know everyones reason , so should not make assumption's as to why that peron went there.So would it not be a hollow victory at the wcra champs if the dog your chasing in your weight group enters the wcra champs as thats the only way you would want your dog to gain its win in a final , to beat any of the best in that group?. It would'nt matter how many dogs are in the weight group as it has'nt cheapened the wins for the 30lb and 32lb groups at the champs in years gone by when there maybe only 3,4 or 5 dogs in that group? You can only beat who are there at the time .If it really was'nt a problem for people they would'nt still be putting comments on here that there's only one place to 'go'? Life is too short and i feel theres been a lost year of happy racing . Please lets just move forward with the nationals and wcra and what ever happens was meant to be.

we are running our dogs at the nationals for the reasons as i said before,4 for the price of 3 were you running yours gypsy -_-

 

[Joanna]

it has'nt cheapened the wins for the 30lb and 32lb groups

Having been in this situation, I have to say IT DOES.

Any-one who knows my 32 lb show-bred will admit that he is the slowest dog in the world (with one exception (sorry Dennis AND Pearl :* ).

When my dog reached the finals of this group a couple of years back, he managed to not beat another dog all day and still got a line in his passport.

We don't kid ourselves he deserved it, had their been competition, he wouldn't have got past the fisrt round.

I truly do wish the WCRA had not reinstated their championships on this date, if the NPWRA cancelled, so would they. I wonder if any-one will feel like we did when they only have a couple of dogs in a group and get through, we just thought it was very funny, but never once did we crow about our dog getting to the final.

This is my experience and my opinion.

sorry have i missed the point of going to the champs ? getting into a final is what your hoping for is'nt it ?

Not always,

We go to socialise with friends and have a great week-end away with like-minded folk. I'd never enter my fat show-bred if that was the case :thumbsup:

So after going away to socialise and see friends your still not happy that your dog gets in a final ?

You could always pull out when there's only 4 or less dogs in the final . There you are no fault of your own in a small weight group still not happy to get to a final of the champs, some would love to have a group where they could have the same feeling as you do when you manage to get to a champs final. :thumbsup:

My proper racing dog is in the largest group 24 lb, so I do have that experience. And I didn't say I wasn't happy, just that I knew it wasn't deserved

 

[peppermint lady]

:lol: if our Peppermint lass got to a final at the nationals id fall over laughing :lol:

she would only manage that if she had a 2 dog heat (she would be very 2nd) a 2 dog semi (again she would be very 2nd) then im confident she would be very 4th in the final :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

she might win if she was the only dog entered in the group!! (w00t) (w00t) :-

 

[terri]

As club moderator for the Lizard I do put posts up for my club.but I almost never get involved with comments on the main pages.

Is that your only answer to my comments? that you need to count the posts! I won't rush to get involved in your disscussions again. I'll leave it ALL to you

 

[June Jonigk]

As club moderator for the Lizard I do put posts up for my club.but I almost never get involved with comments on the main pages.Is that your only answer to my comments? that you need to count the posts! I won't rush to get involved in your disscussions again. I'll leave it ALL to you

You're obviously very upset about something, and I'm not entirely sure what. I have never mentioned how many posts YOU have made, only corrected the fact you said you'd only made 2 posts.

We are all very upbeat about the NPWRA, and we do not wish to have unpleasantness and propoganda aimed at those of us who wanted to save pedigree racing for the majority.

In our eyes we are doing the right thing for pedigree racing, and we have no problem if people want to support whatever else they wish. We are strong in our way forward, and have strong support from the racers behind us - we will enjoy the democracy and friendship that has come from forming a new association. We want to forget the reasons why the new association was formed - our only interest now is to get on with racing, and enjoy the sport - its pretty easy - join us if you wish, and if you don't want to - good luck in whatever you do from here.

 

[conway]

:lol: if our Peppermint lass got to a final at the nationals id fall over laughing :lol: she would only manage that if she had a 2 dog heat (she would be very 2nd) a 2 dog semi (again she would be very 2nd) then im confident she would be very 4th in the final :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

she might win if she was the only dog entered in the group!! (w00t) (w00t) :-

not if tia was there. lol

 

[peppermint lady]

Dave, the thing is Tia is young and still has a lot to give and as you no is not always as committed as she should be....on the other hand pep lass is running her heart out....still to be last (w00t) :lol:

bless her heart shes been a little gem in trials with the pups :thumbsup: one in a million

 

[June Jonigk]

Dave, the thing is Tia is young and still has a lot to give and as you no is not always as committed as she should be....on the other hand pep lass is running her heart out....still to be last (w00t) :lol:
bless her heart shes been a little gem in trials with the pups :thumbsup: one in a million

What's Smidge's excuse then lol

 

[Louise_Simon]

Dont forget our Daisy

Can we have a special event for them

 

[June Jonigk]

Dont forget our Daisy


Can we have a special event for them

We could vote it in Lou at the end of the year

 

[conway]

Dont forget our Daisy

daisy is a real star i would love to know how many puppies she has helped to bring on. :wub:

 

[Darcia]

Can I add Chyppe to that list too :b

 

[Judy]

And Ziggy the Zip

 

[June Jonigk]

Well that's 5 votes then so far

 

[peppermint lady]

we could run the NPWRA Chumps for all the above mentioned dogs :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[June Jonigk]

we could run the NPWRA Chumps for all the above mentioned dogs :lol: :lol: :lol:

National Racing Chumpion Peppermint Lass - it does have a bit of a ring to it Julie :lol:

 

[Louise_Simon]

Thats not really fair to them just coz they arent as speedy they try so hard and never get anywhere but that doesnt make them chumps. They should be honoured for there own particular talent helping the speedy ones on their way

yes I know i am a complete saddo but I like to see the ones Daisy has had a part in helping do well :b and I'm sure there are more proud owners of slow ones who may feel the same.........

Maybe we could have the 'Specials' for all the puppy trainers out there

 

[Rob Rixon]

If you extend the racing distance - ie 450m. You would be surprised that these so called slower dogs might start to win.

You would not expect Paula Radcliffe to win a 100m sprint, but put her on a marathon course and that is a different case.

This is a golden opportunity for the NPWRA to start with some long distances. Weyhill 400m up-hill would not then be considers as so different.

Why stick to 150 yards? Why stick to even poundages groups?

New organisation, new ideas, new rules!!

Not old rules, old problems