Vaccinate Or Not This Time?

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Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

 

[Whippets Rule]

With regard to the new puppy and your concerns regarding Bryn not being inocculated.I would have thought that the puppy would be at just as much at risk from the germs for these viruses being brought into the house by your other dogs who are innocculated. For example if one of them had rolled in fox poo. But I do not know if this is correct. If Byrn caught Distemper or Parvo, yes the puppy would be at risk.

Perhaps the breeder could keep the puppy a bit longer and have at least the 1st jabs done on your pup before it comes to you. This would at least reduce the length of time that the puppy may be exposed to infection from Bryn and the other dogs. It would not do the puppy any harm to leave its Mother a bit older. A responisble breeder would probably be quite understanding and willing to help.

Distemper is rare these days. Parvo less so. Parvo is carried in faeces and also the hair, feet and sometimes feeding bowls of infected dogs. Extra hygiene precautions may help reduce any risk. If ANY of your dogs have been rolling in Poo they should be well disinfected before being allowed contact with the new puppy.

Lepto is by far the biggest danger and the commonest infection.

Bryn only needed Lepto and Parainfluenza this year so he won't be putting a puppy at risk as he's had his vaccination now. To be honest we take hygeine precautions now anyway, they all have their feet washed if we've been out and if anyone rolls in anything they go straight in the bath and wouldn't have contact with the other dogs until after. Puppy won't be appearing for several months yet )

 

[masta]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

 

[Seraphina]

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it....

I think he just did not express himself well enough; he is right, immunity does not accumulate. The vaccine stimulates the immune system to fight the particular infection and from there on the immunity slowly wanes; until the booster stimulates the immune system again. The question is how long it takes before the immunity is so low that it puts a dog in danger? Most likely, that differs from dog to dog, but from all I read I would think about 3-4 years.

In the USA many people do titre test instead of vaccinating every year and it has definitely been confirmed that the immunity for distemper and parvo lasts much longer than 1 year. That is not a surprise as it is necessary to give booster before the immunity is totally lost, or we would be leaving the animal vulnerable.

I also do all the baby shots (6-8weeks, 12 weeks and 16 weeks) than booster at 16-18 months, and after that every 2-3 years, up to about 10, for the last one. My vet told me to do that some 25 years ago. However, when last year there were some parvo outbreaks in Melbourne all my dogs that were vaccinated more than year before got their boosters.

Unfortunately, some people are now not vaccinating at all after the first baby shot; because they have not heard of any distemper or parvo cases they think it is OK. That means that there are many dogs in our show community that are not properly protected and it would take only one dog carrying parvovirus coming to a large show to infect many others.

Few years ago racing greyhound community here stopped vaccinating their dogs against distemper because nobody seen it for couple of decades. Then they had outbreak of distemper sweep through their kennels.

 

[Whippets Rule]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

 

[Whippets Rule]

tried to edit above post but couldn't.....

I guess we all have to do what we feel is best for our own dogs and for the time being I haven't seen enough clear evidence NOT to vaccinate my dogs but I have seen dogs dying of parvo many times and therefore still vaccinate, as I am not embarrassed to admit, I am afraid not to vaccinate as the consequences if I am wrong could be catastrophic for my dogs.... )

 

[masta]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

Bit confused now as your first post was "Just a quick need for advice.....taking my oldie Bryn to the vets tonight"

Think you answered your own question above

Good luck

 

[meeka123]

some interesting articles here :thumbsup:

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/driscoll1.html

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Number of downloads: 1318

 

[meeka123]

sorry i cant attach this ill have to post a link

http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic...oculation-jabs/

 

[TillynPip]

Two things to remember. 1. If you ever have to kennel your dogs, most responsible kennels will not take a dog without proof of up to date vaccs and 2. If, God forbid, a dog did develop parvo or one of the other diseases, without proof of vaccs, your insurance will not cover you for medical fees for the animal's treatment or the lump sum if it died. It is in the small print of the policy that any animals covered receive the initial innoculation and subsequent boosters.

NB Someone at the obedience classes my dogs attend, kenneled their dog (not a whippet) aged 10 months whilst they went on holiday last summer. They returned to the devastating news that the dog had died. A subsequent postmortem showed the dog had died of parvo but it had had all its innoculations.

 

[meeka123]

Which does tend to validate the above articles. My friends 5 month old saluki cross has just died from parvo according to the PM. Nd yes he had all his jabs too

 

[Whippets Rule]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

Bit confused now as your first post was "Just a quick need for advice.....taking my oldie Bryn to the vets tonight"

Think you answered your own question above

Good luck

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

 

[FlyLurcher]

I am someone who gives puppy vaccs then first years booster and nothing at all after that. We humans are not vaccinated every year so why do our dogs need to be - just money making for the vets imo

I have had dogs for 30 years and as i've worked with them as well i have had and still do have many (currently 10) :-

My dogs have worked, been to shows, mix with others, come to work in a grooming salon with me, go to the park, dog training classes etc etc giving them a lot of interaction with vaccinated & unvaccinated dogs. My oldies who have passed away were 17, 16, & 13 and died from age related conditions. I currently have a 13yo & 11yo being the two eldest at the moment.

I also had 3 dogs in the house which were 5, 6 & 13 when i brought home a rescued puppy from kennels aged 8 weeks, just 7 days later she died from Parvo and had been living in the house with my 3 unvaccinated dogs (who'd only had puppy & 12 month jabs). They were not kept seperate at all. None of the other 3 got remotely sick and apparently were still fully immunised against the virus.

I've read all the info i can find on the lifespan of vaccines and made what i believe to be an informed choice in deciding not to vaccinate my dogs past puppy stage. Our brush with Parvo could not have been closer to home as it was inside my home and just convinced me that the info out there is fact not fiction.

My dogs never go into boarding kennels so i don't have those issues.

 

[wilfred]

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

Well I appreciated this thread because even though we all do what we consider is best for our own dogs, I think there is nothing wrong with discussing it even though we might have to differ.

I found this thread interesting and whether or not you answered your own question ... it's still useful for many of us that people ask thought-provoking questions, listening to others, weighing everything up ... please don't wish you hadn't mentioned it. This board needs discussion topics. Some of us have had years of experience of dog-ownership, some are on their first dog ... we can all still learn.

 

[Janimal]

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

Well I appreciated this thread because even though we all do what we consider is best for our own dogs, I think there is nothing wrong with discussing it even though we might have to differ.

I found this thread interesting and whether or not you answered your own question ... it's still useful for many of us that people ask thought-provoking questions, listening to others, weighing everything up ... please don't wish you hadn't mentioned it. This board needs discussion topics. Some of us have had years of experience of dog-ownership, some are on their first dog ... we can all still learn.

Yes I totally agree....debates are good and everyone is entitled to their opinion. :thumbsup:

On the subject of parvo....I know quite a few owners who also had their dogs vaccinated against parvo....and the same dogs died from contracting it.

I have often thought...yes its ok vaccinating dogs against certain things, but they are not necessarily the things/diseases that kill them in the end....not meaning to sound

aweful in any way.... :unsure:

 

[masta]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

Bit confused now as your first post was "Just a quick need for advice.....taking my oldie Bryn to the vets tonight"

Think you answered your own question above

Good luck

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

nothing wrong, i was confused as you had asked for advice lots of people took the time to do that then you quote "I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice so if you have a vet who you trust why bother asking untrained members for more then you back it up with -

"I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious" like i said think you had answered your own question

 

[Whippets Rule]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

Bit confused now as your first post was "Just a quick need for advice.....taking my oldie Bryn to the vets tonight"

Think you answered your own question above

Good luck

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

nothing wrong, i was confused as you had asked for advice lots of people took the time to do that then you quote "I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice so if you have a vet who you trust why bother asking untrained members for more then you back it up with -

"I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious" like i said think you had answered your own question

I only commented that the vet is a friend because you're post implied that he was making money to administer not advise and in my case he has been great with advice but I consider myself told and will be more careful.

I asked untrained members as you put it, so that I could see things from other owners point of view....if you have a good vet of course you take their advice but there was no harm in asking other people too.

Sincere apologies to anyone else who feels I wasted their times or did not fully appreciate their efforts in responding to my request for advice, I thank you all.

we all make mistakes )

 

[TillynPip]

Good subject this. :thumbsup: I've read through all the replies and comments as I've got three coming up for boosters, 6yrs, 2 yrs and 1 yr. Haven't a clue what I'm going to do! :blink:

 

[whippetmad]

Hi I work for a global vaccine manufacturer and all my dogs get their puppy jabs and no more your oldie will have a vast immunological memory i would not bother

I asked the vet if my dog would have built up an immunity from years of vaccination but he said no it's the opposite and that they need vaccinating to challenge the immune system so that if they contract one of the diseases, their body is able to cope with it..... its quite difficult to make up my mind what to think but I was comfortable with the lepto being given.

I can't believe that he said that!!! :wacko: I can't comment on your vet as obviously i don't know him but i honestly wonder if some of them continue to educate themselves after qualifying many many years ago - the research is all out there.

Lepto is the one where the immunity wanes very quickly - and the vaccination is only effective for lepto for approximately 6 months anyway!

It's up to each individual to reasearch this and make an informed decision. I have decided to give puppy vaccinations, a booster at around 2 and then one around 7 or 8 and not again afterwards. I told my vet this and he agreed. As i say, if you want permanent immunity to Lepto you'd be vaccinating every 6 months.

he qualified five years ago( all the vets in the practise have qualified within the past five years, it is a new practice ie four years old) and apparently attended a CPD course( they have to do CPD to remain vets) on vaccinations two weeks ago which is also part of why I believed him, the thing is that I have done lots of research but there is so much conflicting information out there, it is hard to know what to believe and I have learnt to trust my vets( there are several of them)on many things and to be honest I'm scared to leave my dogs vulnerable. He did say they'd had two cases of leptospirosis in this year already which is why he said to vaccinate for that.

Sorry, just there is so much information out there that I get so I simply don't know what to do for the best , I love my dogs very much and want to do whatever I can to protect them.

at the end of the day you must go with what you trust, because i work in this field and tale an active interest in the clinical side my choices are more broad btw what your vet told you is wrong but then he/she make their living from administering not giving advice,

When Hepatitis A was launched it had a protection of 5 years 20 years late the same vaccine is now licensed to cover you for 30+ years!!

I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice and in fact more often than not just get advice from him, he doesn't own the practice and gets paid whether he administers drugs or just gives me some free advice.

The vet only vaccinates for distemper and hepatitis every third year, lepto and parainfluenza annually and parvo every two years. he vaccinates his own dog exactly the same as do all the vets in the practice...I feel quite certain that if they thought the vaccinations weren't needed, they wouldn't treat their own dogs...between them they have nine dogs all of which are vaccinated the same way.

I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious and I would never forgive myself if I did not follow veterinary advice and my dog subsequently contracted it and died....the death is slow painful and horrific and I would not wish it on any dog.

Bit confused now as your first post was "Just a quick need for advice.....taking my oldie Bryn to the vets tonight"

Think you answered your own question above

Good luck

I'm only human and having had veterinary advice, I followed it not quite sure what i did wrong, will not ask advice again though as seems that's not the right thing to do ?

nothing wrong, i was confused as you had asked for advice lots of people took the time to do that then you quote "I would have to say that this vet happens to also be a good friend of mine and I can call him at home and get advice so if you have a vet who you trust why bother asking untrained members for more then you back it up with -

"I guess having seen too many dogs dying from parvo has made me more cautious" like i said think you had answered your own question

I only commented that the vet is a friend because you're post implied that he was making money to administer not advise and in my case he has been great with advice but I consider myself told and will be more careful.

I asked untrained members as you put it, so that I could see things from other owners point of view....if you have a good vet of course you take their advice but there was no harm in asking other people too.

Sincere apologies to anyone else who feels I wasted their times or did not fully appreciate their efforts in responding to my request for advice, I thank you all.

we all make mistakes )

Theres is no harm in asking for people advice and opinions,thats whats this forum is about,helping people with their dogs,i,m sure this has been very useful for everybody,so you don't need to apologise or feel you have wasted people time.Its a very good topic :thumbsup:

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[~Sarah~]

Heidi, you certainly don't need to apologise or think you have wasted anyone's time. Surely that's what this forum is all about - giving advice and helping others. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Please don't stop asking for advice - it is all useful information, particularly for newcomers to dogs/whippets.

Obviously in the end we all have to make our own choices and go with what we feel is right for our dogs and our own personal circumstances, but it is good to be able to make informed choices.