Waterloo Cup

[Nellie]

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this course shows the contest of dog v dog and the hare lives cashels evenings(red collar) a cracking american dog white collar (why you monty) was a good 7 points in front with red collar pulling off a win with some true grit

Why You Monty had won the previous years Waterloo Cup, that course was the second round Cashels Evening having beaten Paddy's Toy (who had been beaten in the previous years Waterloo Cup Final by Why You Monty) in the first round in very similar fashion, the second day she was found wanting on Lydiate and beaten third round by Going Rate

 

[wild whippies]

You still have nt answered why hare coursing is unnatural? but chasing a lure is that natural?No doubt I'll recieve another warn status increase for having an opinion different to a moderator

Specifically where did I say hare coursing is unatural?

Specifically where did I say chasing a lure is natural?

and I'd be enlightened to know how I could (or would even want) to up your warn status?

It's one thing to have a discussion with someone so experienced but pointless when this person clearly cannot read and makes presumptions that are simply wrong.

 

[Nellie]

not every course in any of the waterloo cups or plates ended up with the hare being caught, the hare is a willy creature and knows the lay of the land so can outwit most dogs :thumbsup:

Indeed. I went, out of 2 days coursing, 2 hares were caught, the rest made a mockery of the greyhounds.

Yes the coursing at Waterloo was contrived to gather hares over Altcar for days leading up to the event. Where the course occurs is on a vast plain of land, many, many hares slipped through before the dogs were slipped and when they were slipped many outwitted the dogs. The 2 that were caught were killed instantly and there was many hands available to ensure this occured quickly. What was caught, I was told was used for meat.

I must admit I had mixed feelings about going but I'm glad I did because I left with an immense respect for the greyhound, the care the greyhound owners had for their dogs and most of all, an awe of the hare and it's staggering amount of speed and stamina.

Waterloo was NOT A NATURAL event but then taking any sighthound out into open countryside where there's wildlife coupled with a dogs hunting instinct isn't exactly natural either because your introducing a predator to their land. The fact the hare isn't a natural resident should also be considered as it was brought to this land (along with the hounds that hunted them) by the romans purely for sport.

The burns report also stated that hares following a chase go back to what they was doing beforehand. They, by design accept they are potential prey and do not stress over their circumstances.

Where we live looks out across some fields and in spring, youg hares run back and forth. I wouldn't dream of slipping my dogs on them but at the same time I don't forget that the only reason these animals are here giving me so much pleasure to watch is because they was brought over for the purpose of hunting.

This might be where I got the idea you thought the Waterloo was unnatural? Surely if something is not natural its unnatural?

Your next point about lure coursing I asked the question if that was natural? did nt say you had said anything about it

As for not being able to read and making presumptions that are simply wrong? :- Isn't that what you have done?

 

[Nellie]

Sorry double post

 

[masta]

this course shows the contest of dog v dog and the hare lives cashels evenings(red collar) a cracking american dog white collar (why you monty) was a good 7 points in front with red collar pulling off a win with some true grit

yes i know

 

[Nellie]

this course shows the contest of dog v dog and the hare lives cashels evenings(red collar) a cracking american dog white collar (why you monty) was a good 7 points in front with red collar pulling off a win with some true grit

Ok :thumbsup: 7points is a lot to work off, been interesting if he could of gone 10 points clear IMHO

 

[LasVegasNo1]

This might be where I got the idea you thought the Waterloo was unnatural? Surely if something is not natural its unnatural?Your next point about lure coursing I asked the question if that was natural? did nt say you had said anything about it

As for not being able to read and making presumptions that are simply wrong? :- Isn't that what you have done?

Why is it so important that the Waterloo is 'natural'?

 

[Nellie]

This might be where I got the idea you thought the Waterloo was unnatural? Surely if something is not natural its unnatural?Your next point about lure coursing I asked the question if that was natural? did nt say you had said anything about it

As for not being able to read and making presumptions that are simply wrong? :- Isn't that what you have done?

Why is it so important that the Waterloo is 'natural'?

The hare has to know the land its being coursed on :thumbsup: it would of been illegal by law to release and then course a hare unfamiliar to the land and against NCC rules