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Sorry to hear your probs with Esme - we had the same prob with our old lurcher when he was a puppy and we were beside ourselves as were so worried about the neighbours complaining as we also lived slap bang in the middle of a terrace of houses at the time! Have to say that all of a sudden he just stopped his constant screaming and from that night was a total angel all night long - so stick with it and I am sure like many others have said in a while you will have the perfect pup - she is a little smasher!
 
Why speak to the vet re dap? it's a bitch whelping pheramone it smells of mum and will settle a pup or adult dog it not medical
 
Hi Olivia, sorry you're having such a vile time, we were there for a while with William and again when he had an upset tummy....I took to sleeping in the guest room directly above the kitchen where you can hear every squeak, purely so OH could get a decent nights sleep. Consequently I was like a zombie during the day and had to snatch half hour sleeps during the day when he was asleep....no housework done for ages!

Take heart, you WILL get through it, even though it's really shitty at the time. You've had some brill advice so I've not much to add apart from echoing ILKC's advice and say definitely refrain from giving her any attention when she wants it. It's really hard to ignore them all night, but as long as you know she's safe, and isn't wearing her collar in her crate (I know, you're not stupid :p ), it's by far the best approach IMO.

Just another thought though....could it be that she's a little over-stimulated during the day? Perhaps she's a bit miffed at night that she's not getting the kind of full-on action that she's had in the day? Probably your docking of privilages will help sort it if that's the case! We're having to do this with William at the moment as he's become a bit of a busy-body Scrappy Doo bossy boots type recently :lol:

Anyway good luck :luck: :luck: :luck: :)
 
One more question about asserting my authority over her- she is house trained, but asks to go to the garden by whining at the kitchen door. She does this quite often, and I was wondering whether she is old enough at 19 weeks to wait and go out when I am ready rather than when she asks. She hasn't had and accident for about 2 months now.
 
OEH said:
One more question about asserting my authority over her- she is house trained, but asks to go to the garden by whining at the kitchen door.  She does this quite often, and I was wondering whether she is old enough at 19 weeks to wait and go out when I am ready rather than when she asks.  She hasn't had and accident for about 2 months now.
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Lucky you on the toilet training thing, bean just goes when she likes, where she likes :rant:
 
We've been really vigilant with William's housetraining and it's paid off....he's at the same stage as Esme now, and like you Olivia I've wondered whether to make him wait a while, so now instead of jumping up as soon as he whines at the door we give it a couple of minutes and then go. I think you still need to reward them for asking to go out at this stage, otherwise they may think there's no point in asking, and you'd end up going back a step?

Would be interesting to hear what others think :)
 
All sounds like good advice. :)

Max is getting up earlier and chuntering as it gets lighter - I think I good thick pair of curtains is the answer to that one.

As for screaming all night. When we first had Max and Tiny they were supposed to sleep downstairs, but Tiny kept crying all night and peeing everywhere, we were getting up all the time, ignoring them, sitting in the dark to settle them etc.

Eventually we gave in and let them sleep upstairs, not Tiny sleeps on the bed and is as good as gold -_- (and gives me lovely cuddles and wake up kisses at a reasonable hour) and Max sleeps either upstairs or on the sofa, depending on how he feels.

It sounds like you've decided on a sensible plan, the hard part is sticking to it. If you think she'll be better in your bed, like Tiny is, that's great - but you'll never get her out again!!

Luckily my neighbours are quite noisy, so they can't complain if we are noisy, but chocolates are a really great idea if you have nice neighbours.

Hope it works out okay. :thumbsup: :luck: :huggles:
 
Have you tried ignoring her? By that I mean when she's screaming come down to her but ignore her, make yourself a drink, read a magazine etc etc, but do not acknowledge her in the slightest! No eye contact, don't speak, don't touch her just sit there in your own world until she gets the message you don't want anything to do with her. Hopefully she will settle, then leave the room. If she starts up again, repeat the process, but remember to never acknowledge her! Hopefully in time she will learn there's no point calling for you at night as you don't bloody pay any attention to her anyway! laughing.gif

I was taught this by a dog trainer, and I must say it did work for us!
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We have had this in the past with a very noisy puppy, it is some years ago now but I still shudder whenever I remember it (w00t) (w00t) .

What worked for us was following the advice above, ie going into the room repeatedly, but not speaking to the pup, no eye contact, completely ignoring it and turning your back, make a drink etc. Going out of the room, going back in but again no acknowledgement of the pup.

Hope it works for you. It's no fun going without your sleep, but if you are going to follow the above, you do need to stick to it and not look at, or talk to, the puppy.

Good luck! :luck: :luck:

Gill
 
OEH said:
I have been thinking about the duvet solution, but worry that she will run out of air- is this possible?
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I was going to say no, but then I remembered just how unbearable the noise of a puppy yowling is ... :- " :lol:

I'd say if you fling them loosely on top but enough that the cage is virtually all covered she'll be fine. a couple of duvets are better because they will absorb more noise without you having to tuck them in around the crate.

Chocolates for neighbours definitely get my thumbs up!

I just realised I started my post with 'I haven't got much time ...' and then went on to post a mammoth ramble ... explains being late for work this morning ... (w00t) ... K9 strikes again!

Good luck :luck:
 
Sorry to hear you are having problems with the beautiful Esme- she sounds like a determined little minx! :- "

My lot start a very melodic chorus at exactly 8.30am if I haven't got up by then- don't know how they can tell the time so well! :angry: Occasionally they start earlier if they can hear me moving about upstairs and they think it's time to get up!

If my neighbour is out (I live in a semi), I leave them to howl, which they stop after only about a minute, then there is silence while they listen to see if I am reacting, before starting up again, and stopping abruptly again! :- " If I leave them to howl, they give up.

So I would agree the best thing is to try and ignore her, she will soon get fed up if you NEVER react to her demands.

If all else fails, I have a Master Plus collar, which emits a puff of air by remote control, which I have used on my Lurcher, who starts everybody off, and this shuts her up instantly! :clown: I would be happy to let you borrow it if you need it :thumbsup:

Good luck :luck:

Liz and the Monellis
 
A friend had a whippet pppy exactly the same as this - also a blue. She had him in the garage at one point bt it made no difference. She then put him in with her older whippet who told him off every time he screamed and it worked to a degree but she felt bad about the other dog. What stopped it evetally was she moved house and we had him for a week or so - we just totally ignored him and delivered him back a week later able to sleep through the night. He went on for about 2 hours the first night I never thoght he would shut up, but the second night he shut up after 45 mins and he never did it the third, and has never done it since so hopefully you will never have to worry about it again once its sorted.

Perhaps crate her and leave her during the day when the neighbours are not trying to sleep, and probably at work, and start and get the message to her?

Good Luck Olivia. :luck:
 
I would give the DAP a try as suggested by Masta, they are really good.

Sorry you are going through this but it will pass. Makes me realise how lucky I am with mine, they sleep upstairs with us & will sleep in until we get up -_-

Good Luck,

Julie.
 
Rae said:
What stopped it evetally was she moved house and we had him for a week or so - we just totally ignored him and delivered him back a week later able to sleep through the night. 
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How about a holiday - you and Hugo can relax and catch up on that lost sleep, as can the neighbours, and Esmé can scream to her heart's content and just keep the kennel people awake (and possibly us too if the wind is blowing in the right direction :lol: ). Seriously it's possible to get into a sort of negative feedback loop with this sort of thing, and a change in routine might help break it.

And it's always good to have an excuse for a nice holiday :b
 
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Although my puppy, Ziggy, was in a crate in my son's bedroom at night he did wake up and start crying at some point. I used to go and lie next to the crate with a spare duvet and sleep there till morning - I didn't give him any attention but just my being present and close shut him up. After about a fortnight he stopped waking in the night (thank goodness).

I don't know if this is of any help but I hope you get it sorted :luck: :luck:
 
Thanks again everyone :cheers:

Liz- thanks very much for the offer of the collar- I have one for Nana, they are great aren't they? I am keeping that as a last resort, it seems such a big objest to put around such a little person :b , but it will be used if I can't sort it any other way.

Ok. Well there was no chance of getting up before she started bellowing in the morning because she didn't stop (w00t)

The duvet was great- no longer worried about the neighbours or OH. I could still hear her, but I was quite glad because I knew she wasn't suffocating. When we went to sleep at 10 she was screaming, when i woke at 11.30 she was screaming, when I woke at 1 she was screaming, the hour I was awake between 3 and 4 she was screaming, when I woke at 5 she was screaming, when I woke at 6 she was screaming and she screamed until 7 when I got up. I left her for a while before I undid the igloo and let her out. Out she came wagging her little tail and grinning :teehee: .

What is so strange about all of this is that it only took me a couple of days to get her used to the crate when she was little, and she was fine with it until a couple of weeks ago :wacko: .

I am really convinced that this ignoring thing will work, it was what we did in the first place, it will just take a while -_- .
 
OEH said:
Thanks again everyone :cheers:
Liz- thanks very much for the offer of the collar- I have one for Nana, they are great aren't they?  I am keeping that as a last resort, it seems such a big objest to put around such a little person :b , but it will be used if I can't sort it any other way.

Ok.  Well there was no chance of getting up before she started bellowing in the morning because she didn't stop  (w00t)

The duvet was great- no longer worried about the neighbours or OH.  I could still hear her, but I was quite glad because I knew she wasn't suffocating.  When we went to sleep at 10 she was screaming, when i woke at 11.30 she was screaming, when I woke at 1 she was screaming, the hour I was awake between 3 and 4 she was screaming, when I woke at 5 she was screaming, when I woke at 6 she was screaming and she screamed until 7 when I got up.  I left her for a while before I undid the igloo and let her out.  Out she came wagging her little tail and grinning :teehee: .

What is so strange about all of this is that it only took me a couple of days to get her used to the crate when she was little, and she was fine with it until a couple of weeks ago :wacko: .

I am really convinced that this ignoring thing will work, it was what we did in the first place, it will just take a while -_- .

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Make sure she doesnt have to many naps today, if she hasnt slept all night she will be tiered(sp) but if you allow her to sleep, her night will become day and day will be night IYGWIM.

Day 1, it can only get easier :sweating:
 
Does she do it during the day Olivia ? maybe it's the dark, and also just a thought do you have anything that comes on in the night that makes a noise boiler ect because we used to have a dog that was fine until we got central heating fitted and when the boiler fired up it sent him loopy we thought he was ill took him to the vets and he said he was A1 so thats the only change we could put it down to anyway he got used to it and was fine after that :wacko:

He also did it if the batteries on the smoke alarm were running out and started bleeping must have been the high pitch and if my mobile was running out of charge and it bleeps it soon made us change/charge them though(strange dog he was :lol: )
 
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Ok.  Well there was no chance of getting up before she started bellowing in the morning because she didn't stop  (w00t)
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:lol: Poor you! Hopefully this is a start though - the fact that she persisted all night is just because persistence has paid off big time in the past. Making breakfast or something, until she had stopped for maybe 10 or 15 seconds then rushing to let her out before she starts again is the key. Basically, she thinks that screaming is the trick to getting the crate opened - you need to retrain her into your way of thinking - only quiet puppies get crates opened for them!

We had this to an extent with the fosterpuppyofdoom last year, except he was approaching 30kg or something ridiculous and would ambulate around the kitchen within the crate ... (w00t)

I have unending admiration for anyone who can 'do puppies' ... urgh! ;)
 
Sympathise with you Olivia - I wonder whats bothering Esme - hope you get her sorted soon. :huggles: :thumbsup:
 
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