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[Janetta]

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:- " I have 4 beautiful whippets. On their own they are great. But out together they are becoming horrors, especailly the pups and mother.

The female pup is running up to other dogs growling at them, they growl back and she becomes a little horror, then the boy pup joins in.

Any ideas what I can do, apart from walking them in pairs only, keeping two on leads and then changing them over. What's everyone's views on putting racing muzzles on them when we are out. They dad is brilliant.

Jenny

 

[Janet]

I have 3 boys who all get on brilliantly indoors but I do have trouble with the middle one picking on the youngest when they are running loose. I have resorted to putting a racing muzzle on him because I cannot stop him grabbing Josh by the neck and throwing him on the ground and his neck was always covered in scabs where he was being bitten. Louis doesn't like the muzzle but will tolerate it and I thought it was better than him not being let off the lead. It makes our walks a lot calmer and I'm not screaming like a banshee across the field 8)

 

[Janetta]

I have 3 boys who all get on brilliantly indoors but I do have trouble with the middle one picking on the youngest when they are running loose.  I have resorted to putting a racing muzzle on him because I cannot stop him grabbing Josh by the neck and throwing him on the ground and his neck was always covered in scabs where he was being bitten.  Louis doesn't like the muzzle but will tolerate it and I thought it was better than him not being let off the lead.  It makes our walks a lot calmer and I'm not screaming like a banshee across the field  8)

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:cheers: Cheers for that, she won't like the muzzle, but at least I won't have to worry about other owners shouting.

 

[Trish]

i tried a muzzle on mine last year,and they was too busy trying to get them off that their noses started to bleed,millies bled worse than phoebes ,so decided that muzzles where no good for mine.

millie still as scars on her nose from it,and now she is getting sun burn on the area.

 

[Strike Whippets]

:- "  I have 4 beautiful whippets.  On their own they are great.  But out together they are becoming horrors, especailly the pups and mother.
The female pup is running up to other dogs growling at them, they growl back and she becomes a little horror, then the boy pup joins in.

Any ideas what I can do, apart from walking them in pairs only, keeping two on leads and then changing them over.  What's everyone's views on putting racing muzzles on them when we are out.  They dad is brilliant.

Jenny

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To be honest if they were wearing a muzzle and started a fight with another dog, your Whippet/Whippets are going to get savaged and will be completly unable to defend themselves ........(even if they did start it :b ) ..........It really is back to basic recall and socialisation training again ..........I have/had a problem with my top bitch, she likes to "control" unknown dogs, and other dog owners don't like that much :b , but with a quick refresher course of ball reward training, shs A1 again........Now I've just been up the field with my 10 all free running together and not 1 hitch :sweating: :lol: ........ :luck: :luck: :luck: Hannah.

 

[wild whippies]

If I've read your post right then your whippet family used to be the same as mine i.e. Mum, and 3 pups of which one is female and the other 2 are males?

The hierachy here is mum as top dog, daughter then the two sons. My personal feeling is that females will naturally dominate males in any family situation due to the fact it's in the males best interest to keep the females sweet and it's in the females interest not to coerce with any given male, if you see what I mean. As mine have grown up, the daughter has always bowed down and greeted mother in a submisssive manner but she will not tolerate boistrous behaviour from her brothers. She also prefers to sleep away from them wheras the two brothers will cuddle up and sleep together. My own opinion is you will have the same hierachy and with time each dog should respect the other dogs 'space' as it were. However overtly aggresive behaviour isn't to be tolerated from any dog (neck biting etc) and you should chastise them for it, it's more important for the girl to realise it's wrong and not to do it at all then to use a muzzle as a preventative to damage.

In regards to walking, I personally would walk the females together and the males together on seperate walks, my reasons being is it allows the males to generally enjoy their walks and 'bond' and also the mother will probably be less tolerant of her daughters behaviour and should also chatise her plus she's probably more willing to please her mother than another dog.

I must add I never intend to use my males at stud as I don't wish to upset the balance I have.

Incidently I've since got a male non ped whippet who is currently in his dominating teenage phase and he too has had his priveledge taken away of free running with the young dogs due to him also contemplating neck biting. He will be allowed to free run occasionally with their mum though as she does chastise him and he has respect for her.

I do hope this helps, in my own experience I feel perseverence and ensuring you keep control will help you succeed. :luck:

 

[kim & Tilly]

If I've read your post right then your whippet family used to be the same as mine i.e. Mum, and 3 pups of which one is female and the other 2 are males?
The hierachy here is mum as top dog, daughter then the two sons. My personal feeling is that females will naturally dominate males in any family situation due to the fact it's in the males best interest to keep the females sweet and it's in the females interest not to coerce with any given male, if you see what I mean. As mine have grown up, the daughter has always bowed down and greeted mother in a submisssive manner but she will not tolerate boistrous behaviour from her brothers. She also prefers to sleep away from them wheras the two brothers will cuddle up and sleep together. My own opinion is you will have the same hierachy and with time each dog should respect the other dogs 'space' as it were. However overtly aggresive behaviour isn't to be tolerated from any dog (neck biting etc) and you should chastise them for it, it's more important for the girl to realise it's wrong and not to do it at all then to use a muzzle as a preventative to damage.

In regards to walking, I personally would walk the females together and the males together on seperate walks, my reasons being is it allows the males to generally enjoy their walks and 'bond' and also the mother will probably be less tolerant of her daughters behaviour and should also chatise her plus she's probably more willing to please her mother than another dog.

I must add I never intend to use my males at stud as I don't wish to upset the balance I have.

Incidently I've since got a male non ped whippet who is currently in his dominating teenage phase and he too has had his priveledge taken away of free running with the young dogs due to him also contemplating neck biting. He will be allowed to free run occasionally with their mum though as she does chastise him and he has respect for her.

I do hope this helps, in my own experience I feel perseverence and ensuring you keep control will help you succeed. :luck:

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That is very interesting...

I have two whips, Tilly 15 months and Bean 6 months as i have said on previous threads, tilly will run at bean knocking her over and then will hold her down biting her neck, this happens when we go out and i first let them off the lead, she will keep this going for 5 mins or more until i intervne.

Preiodicaly over the walk she will keep going back to have a go....

If i put Tilly on the lead Bean will come up and bite her...if i have Bean on the lead Tilly will run and slam into her......so im considering walking them seperate

any help greatly recieved :thumbsup:

 

[wild whippies]

TBH Kim I couldn't comment on having 2 unrelated girls living together especially in regards to whippets, I know with Dobes it can be a nightmare but not half as bad as 2 male stud dogs!! The other thing is you've got 2 dogs at the adolescent stage so they're bound to challenge and misbehave. I think the key is what Hannah's said, back to basics, practising strict recall and ensuring your the one in control. I don't know if others have experienced the same but I've had to also on occasion revert back to refresher courses with individual dogs that have felt the need to challenge. When this has happened it's been recall issues that's been the start of things as though the dogs first attempt at rebelling is through challenging you?

 

[Strike Whippets]

Yes recall's the first command to go when challenged ........Inca was a nightmare if the mood took her ..........

Kim I have related and unrelated pack members ........I must admit to getting all of my lot completley toy orientated so they never notice what the next ones doing :thumbsup: .........Hence why I can manage 10 dogs off the lead in 1 go .......They are too interested in balls,frisbees and live stuff to care what the other pack member is doing :thumbsup:

 

[Whippets Rule]

I have to muzzle one of my three whippets.

He doesn't bother his pack mates but will bite other dogs and people if the mood takes him. (w00t)

He used to be top dog out of the dogs,(I am pack leader),but he's third dog now.

I'm lucky in that out of ten years with these dogs they've only had one minor fight which resulted in a cut toe, but this particular whippet is very very protective of me and quite menacing with strange dogs especially if they are big enough to kill him in which case he's extra antagonistic. (w00t)

He also lunges at cyclists and postmen if i'm not vigilant (w00t) :lol:

 

[kim & Tilly]

I will get a frizbe and see if that helps lol

Bean will launch herself at Amy when we are out and yesterday bit her on the leg, she is quite bitey??

Back to basics, i was doing quite well with Tilly then bean came along and they basically do what they want, although tilly knows heal (but only when she wants and after she has had enough and wants to go home...

So i have two kids and two whippets totally out of control :wacko:

 

[kris]

I have to muzzle one of my three whippets.
He doesn't bother his pack mates but will bite other dogs and people if the mood takes him. (w00t)

He used to be top dog out of the dogs,(I am pack leader),but he's third dog now.

I'm lucky in that out of ten years with these dogs they've only had one minor fight which resulted in a cut toe, but this particular whippet is very very protective of me and quite menacing with strange dogs especially if they are big enough to kill him in which case he's extra antagonistic. (w00t)

He also lunges at cyclists and postmen if i'm not vigilant (w00t)   :lol:

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my first dobermann bitch was like this.she was extremely protective of me (i had 2 occasions where i was attacked by a man on a lonely stretch of path and boy was i glad she was like she was,she literally saved my life)she hated anyone in uniform,policemen,postmen etc,she was very aggressive with strangers when out on a lead,and she once brought down a guy who was innocently cycling past and lunged out at him and dragged him off his bike!she sounds like a terror and she could be but id walk through toxteth in the middle of a riot with her and know i was safe. :thumbsup: my daughter learned to walk by holding on to her neck and she would protect her as if she were her puppy.i still miss her so much

 

[kim & Tilly]

I will get a frizbe and see if that helps lol
Bean will launch herself at Amy when we are out and yesterday bit her on the leg, she is quite bitey??

Back to basics, i was doing quite well with Tilly then bean came along and they basically do what they want, although tilly knows heal (but only when she wants and after she has had enough and wants to go home...

So i have two kids and two whippets totally out of control :wacko:

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OH i forgot to say Amy is my daughter whos 9