Will Young Wants An Iggie!!!!

[05whippet]

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I just wish people who spouted statements like "demand would out weigh supply" looked into the breed they were talking about first.
Why is it our breed has NEVER (& hopefully WONT ever) become commercialised ?

Why do we have hardly ANY pet market ?

Why do people buy our breed, then 90% per cent after less than a year re-home because the cant cope ?

Answer: Because they are a specialist breed. They are not your normal run of the mill dog. Whilst they are extremely loving, funny & can be the perfect companion, they are also extremely HARD work & great care & supervision needs to be taken.

The last thing the breed needs is a sudden rush of totally uneducated to the needs of the breed people rushing out to buy one cos it is the current "in thing".

They are not a "small whippet" as some beleive & unless you think long & hard about your life style, your home, your needs as well as the dogs DONT GET ONE.

Nina

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I think it's the last thing any breed needs,to become the flavour of the month or year just because a celebrity owns one. It was exactly the same with Dalmations whenever the film 101 Dalmations hit the screens every child and their granny wanted one,puppy farmers jumped on the band wagon and so did a lot of unscrupulous breeders or should I say producers because the dog just becomes a commodity and something to make a fast buck off the back of,unfortunately the Dalmation rescue are still after all this time mopping up the surplus and unwanted dogs as the "lovely cute pup" ineviteably grew into not quite so cute an adult and demanded a lot more exercise as an adult too,so these people then wondered why their lovely dog demolished most of their house and all of their garden!! not realising it was thru sheer boredom.

I'm sorry but this type of reasoning behind getting a pup is, I think atrocious. :rant: People really need to look into a lot more reasons for getting a dog other than Paris Hilton or Will young etc has one. :angry:

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[clairej810]

... and Zoomie still pees and poos in the house everynight and if he feels the need to dominate one of my other dogs he goes and pees in their bed.
No much wonder rescue would be full!

I don't mind - I wash my floor twice a day and love him to bits but he's the first of seven dogs I've had that won't house-train completely... I'd read it's a breed/Toy dog thing before I even got him and still love him utterly.

I wouldn't give Will Young an IG - I don't think he's got the lifestyle to suit them ie. single minded devotion to their needs :huggles:   :wub:   :wub:   :wub:

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Tiny, my gh pup, well one year old, does the same!! His house training has recently gone to the wall, he used to give 2 seconds warning when he needed the toilet, now he lets you know after his done it - and all because I was so mean as to go out to work for a couple of mornings last week! :lol: And he weed in my bed too :x

Oh well, it wouldn't be the same without them.

 

[nina]

I think it's the last thing any breed needs,to become the flavour of the month or year just because a celebrity owns one. It was exactly the same with Dalmations whenever the film 101 Dalmations hit the screens every child and their granny wanted one,puppy farmers jumped on the band wagon and so did a lot of unscrupulous breeders or should I say producers because the dog just becomes a commodity and something to make a fast buck off the back of,unfortunately the Dalmation rescue are still after all this time mopping up the surplus and unwanted dogs as the "lovely cute pup" ineviteably grew into not quite so cute an adult and  demanded a lot more exercise as an adult too,so these people then wondered why their lovely dog demolished most of their house and all of their garden!! not realising it was thru sheer boredom.
I'm sorry but this type of reasoning behind getting a pup is, I think atrocious.  :rant:   People really need to look into a lot more reasons for getting a dog other than Paris Hilton or Will young etc has one.  :angry:

Okay that's me done  :b

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I agree totally, nobody wants this kind of scenario whatever the breed BUT even more so in IG's.

We have enough puppy farmers out there already exploiting all different breeds without some witless celebrity putting a breed such as IG's in the limelight for all & sundry to make a fast buck out of without a thought to the consequences or effect on the breed.

Nina

 

[lalena]

I just wish people who spouted statements like "demand would out weigh supply" looked into the breed they were talking about first.
Why is it our breed has NEVER (& hopefully WONT ever) become commercialised ?

Why do we have hardly ANY pet market ?

Why do people buy our breed, then 90% per cent after less than a year re-home because the cant cope ?

Answer: Because they are a specialist breed. They are not your normal run of the mill dog. Whilst they are extremely loving, funny & can be the perfect companion, they are also extremely HARD work & great care & supervision needs to be taken.

The last thing the breed needs is a sudden rush of totally uneducated to the needs of the breed people rushing out to buy one cos it is the current "in thing".

They are not a "small whippet" as some beleive & unless you think long & hard about your life style, your home, your needs as well as the dogs DONT GET ONE.

Nina

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I think it's the last thing any breed needs,to become the flavour of the month or year just because a celebrity owns one. It was exactly the same with Dalmations whenever the film 101 Dalmations hit the screens every child and their granny wanted one,puppy farmers jumped on the band wagon and so did a lot of unscrupulous breeders or should I say producers because the dog just becomes a commodity and something to make a fast buck off the back of,unfortunately the Dalmation rescue are still after all this time mopping up the surplus and unwanted dogs as the "lovely cute pup" ineviteably grew into not quite so cute an adult and demanded a lot more exercise as an adult too,so these people then wondered why their lovely dog demolished most of their house and all of their garden!! not realising it was thru sheer boredom.

I'm sorry but this type of reasoning behind getting a pup is, I think atrocious. :rant: People really need to look into a lot more reasons for getting a dog other than Paris Hilton or Will young etc has one. :angry:

Okay that's me done :b

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exactly!

 

[lalena]

I just wish people who spouted statements like "demand would out weigh supply" looked into the breed they were talking about first.
Why is it our breed has NEVER (& hopefully WONT ever) become commercialised ?

Why do we have hardly ANY pet market ?

Why do people buy our breed, then 90% per cent after less than a year re-home because the cant cope ?

Answer: Because they are a specialist breed. They are not your normal run of the mill dog. Whilst they are extremely loving, funny & can be the perfect companion, they are also extremely HARD work & great care & supervision needs to be taken.

The last thing the breed needs is a sudden rush of totally uneducated to the needs of the breed people rushing out to buy one cos it is the current "in thing".

They are not a "small whippet" as some beleive & unless you think long & hard about your life style, your home, your needs as well as the dogs DONT GET ONE.

Nina

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I think it's the last thing any breed needs,to become the flavour of the month or year just because a celebrity owns one. It was exactly the same with Dalmations whenever the film 101 Dalmations hit the screens every child and their granny wanted one,puppy farmers jumped on the band wagon and so did a lot of unscrupulous breeders or should I say producers because the dog just becomes a commodity and something to make a fast buck off the back of,unfortunately the Dalmation rescue are still after all this time mopping up the surplus and unwanted dogs as the "lovely cute pup" ineviteably grew into not quite so cute an adult and demanded a lot more exercise as an adult too,so these people then wondered why their lovely dog demolished most of their house and all of their garden!! not realising it was thru sheer boredom.

I'm sorry but this type of reasoning behind getting a pup is, I think atrocious. :rant: People really need to look into a lot more reasons for getting a dog other than Paris Hilton or Will young etc has one. :angry:

Okay that's me done :b

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exactly!

 

[BeeJay]

>Why do people buy our breed, then 90% per cent after less than a year re-home because the cant cope ?

Sorry I've got lost in all the quoting. Which breed is this that has this appalling re-homing rate?

 

[masta]

>Why do people buy our breed, then 90% per cent after less than a year re-home because the cant cope ?
Sorry I've got lost in all the quoting.  Which breed is this that has this appalling re-homing rate?

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maybe Will young can get one from ig rescue?

 

[nina]

maybe Will young can get one from ig rescue?

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You obviously have'nt or don't want to take on board people's reason's of celebrity's NOT buying IG's from whatever source, so why bother commenting.

Go & read a book on the breed or gather information from genuine breeders regarding the breed, then just maybe you might understand most people's views on this subject.

 

[masta]

maybe Will young can get one from ig rescue?

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You obviously have'nt or don't want to take on board people's reason's of celebrity's NOT buying IG's from whatever source, so why bother commenting.

Go & read a book on the breed or gather information from genuine breeders regarding the breed, then just maybe you might understand most people's views on this subject.

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it's not celebrity's you need to worry about if what you say is right and 90% of all igs sold are returned there are more important issues to be dealt with.

 

[Judy]

He did only say he woul like an IG if he had a pet. Not that he was going to get one. Probably the reason he hasn't already got one is because he knows his lifestyle isn't right for one.

 

[05whippet]

He did only say he woul like an IG if he had a pet. Not that he was going to get one. Probably the reason he hasn't already got one is because he knows his lifestyle isn't right for one.

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I'm not that sure that any celebrity's lifestyle suits any breed or pet for that matter! Pets take and demand a lot of commitment and I'm afraid that Celebrity's commitments lie elsewhere.

 

[nina]

it's not celebrity's you need to worry about if what you say is right and 90% of all igs sold are returned there are more important issues to be dealt with.

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If you knew anything about the breed you are commenting about you would know the issues are being dealt with to the best of peoples abilities.

That is why very few litters of IG's are bred by genuine Breeders who have the good of the breed at heart, careful research is done by most breeders into any potential homes & a multitude of advice & information is given throughout an IG's life time.

Unfortunately no matter how informed some people are & with the best will in the world think they will be able to cope, sometimes only to find they cant.

As very very few litters of IG's are bred each year & litter sizes are generally small, normally on average only 2- 3 pups are sold from each litter (if that) so thankfully there is not a problem for rescue.

However if the breed suddenly shot into the limelight with a celebrity owning one & parading it round as a fashion accessory (as most do), how long do you think it would take the opportunists/Puppy farmers to jump on the band wagon & start breeding wholesale to fullfill the sudden demand for the breed.

The situation would then be people who knew nothing about the breed making a fast buck breeding litters of IG's, selling them again in return to the majority of people who knew nothing about the breed.

Surely even yourself with your obvious limited knowledge of the breed can see that this does not make for a good outcome for the breed or any breed come to that.

I personally always refrain from commenting on a breed i know nothing about as i feel unless i am educated or informed enough to make an intelligent comment, why waste people's time.

 

[05whippet]

it's not celebrity's you need to worry about if what you say is right and 90% of all igs sold are returned there are more important issues to be dealt with.

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If you knew anything about the breed you are commenting about you would know the issues are being dealt with to the best of peoples abilities.

That is why very few litters of IG's are bred by genuine Breeders who have the good of the breed at heart, careful research is done by most breeders into any potential homes & a multitude of advice & information is given throughout an IG's life time.

Unfortunately no matter how informed some people are & with the best will in the world think they will be able to cope, sometimes only to find they cant.

As very very few litters of IG's are bred each year & litter sizes are generally small, normally on average only 2- 3 pups are sold from each litter (if that) so thankfully there is not a problem for rescue.

However if the breed suddenly shot into the limelight with a celebrity owning one & parading it round as a fashion accessory (as most do), how long do you think it would take the opportunists/Puppy farmers to jump on the band wagon & start breeding wholesale to fullfill the sudden demand for the breed.

The situation would then be people who knew nothing about the breed making a fast buck breeding litters of IG's, selling them again in return to the majority of people who knew nothing about the breed.

Surely even yourself with your obvious limited knowledge of the breed can see that this does not make for a good outcome for the breed or any breed come to that.

I personally always refrain from commenting on a breed i know nothing about as i feel unless i am educated or informed enough to make an intelligent comment, why waste people's time.

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I only wish that breeders of other breeds were as careful and genuine as this,maybe then there would'nt be the amount of dogs in breed rescue and animal shelters :angry: and I'm not only talking about pedigrees here either!

 

[masta]

it's not celebrity's you need to worry about if what you say is right and 90% of all igs sold are returned there are more important issues to be dealt with.

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If you knew anything about the breed you are commenting about you would know the issues are being dealt with to the best of peoples abilities.

That is why very few litters of IG's are bred by genuine Breeders who have the good of the breed at heart, careful research is done by most breeders into any potential homes & a multitude of advice & information is given throughout an IG's life time.

Unfortunately no matter how informed some people are & with the best will in the world think they will be able to cope, sometimes only to find they cant.

As very very few litters of IG's are bred each year & litter sizes are generally small, normally on average only 2- 3 pups are sold from each litter (if that) so thankfully there is not a problem for rescue.

However if the breed suddenly shot into the limelight with a celebrity owning one & parading it round as a fashion accessory (as most do), how long do you think it would take the opportunists/Puppy farmers to jump on the band wagon & start breeding wholesale to fullfill the sudden demand for the breed.

The situation would then be people who knew nothing about the breed making a fast buck breeding litters of IG's, selling them again in return to the majority of people who knew nothing about the breed.

Surely even yourself with your obvious limited knowledge of the breed can see that this does not make for a good outcome for the breed or any breed come to that.

I personally always refrain from commenting on a breed i know nothing about as i feel unless i am educated or informed enough to make an intelligent comment, why waste people's time.

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"a public meeting or assembly for open discussion" thats a definition for a forum

"Surely even yourself with your obvious limited knowledge of the breed" your assuming alot from at most three or four lines of text.

happy christmas

 

[nina]

"a public meeting or assembly for open discussion" thats a definition for a forum
"Surely even yourself with your obvious limited knowledge of the breed" your assuming alot from at most three or four lines of text.

happy christmas 

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Discussion YES, anyone & everyone is free to partake in a discussion but brandishing ridiculous statements about something one clearly knows absolutely nothing about is somewhat different.

As i said i can only speak personally for myself but i would rather educate myself on a breed before i made statements that were cleary not relevant.

Each to their own, but i happen to have lived with this breed for over 16 years now & care about it deeply. If i can do any one small thing to stop just one unfortunate IG ending up in the wrong hands i will by trying to educate people & for that i make no apologies.

 

[alfie]

Just because someone made a statement showing little knowledge of our breed, which I happen to also love, really doesn't necessitate them being lectured and spoken to as if they are a pleb :blink:

How else will they find out about the disadvantages of the breed without asking questions?

Let's all be nice now... o

Liz and the Monellis

 

[nina]

Just because someone made a statement showing little knowledge of our breed, which I happen to also love, really doesn't necessitate them being lectured and spoken to as if they are a pleb :blink:

How else will they find out about the disadvantages of the breed without asking questions?

Let's all be nice now... o

Liz and the Monellis

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I dont think information was being sort here.

Trust me i was being "nice".

It wasn't a lecture, merely meant to be information for someone who clearly thought it ok to breed to fullfill supply.

 

[Zephyr]

I personally always refrain from commenting on a breed i know nothing about as i feel unless i am educated or informed enough to make an intelligent comment, why waste people's time.

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I think that's a bit harsh - one of the best things about this forum is that people can discuss things in an open and honest way, but being rude is unecessary and unhelpful.

 

[nina]

I think that's a bit harsh - one of the best things about this forum is that people can discuss things in an open and honest way, but being rude is unecessary and unhelpful.

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As i said it was meant to be informative, read what in to it you will.

 

[masta]

I think that's a bit harsh - one of the best things about this forum is that people can discuss things in an open and honest way, but being rude is unecessary and unhelpful.

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"Discussion YES, anyone & everyone is free to partake in a discussion but brandishing ridiculous statements about something one clearly knows absolutely nothing about is somewhat different"

WHAT?

Do you actually take any time reading back what you are writing before you press the send button!

You may have "lived with this breed" for 16 years and know more than i have forgotten and can i just say at this stage i admire ig's very much but have no desire at all to own one mainly because of the problems already discussed but also the thought of having to deal with a breeder of your ilk and disposition

This is dogs we are discussing, everyone on this site loves and respect their dogs whatever breed they are and i am sure you are 100% commited and as you say "care about it deeply" but that does not give you carte blanche to be rude i take exception to some one making assumtions regarding my intelligence and knowledge on the back of me writing a couple of lines of text!

"As i said it was meant to be informative, read what in to it you will"

By the way for your information your rude, ill mannered and aggresive, read what you want into that