A Rant In The Morning........!

[Pimmscass]

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Hello all, I feel the need for a rant as a fellow dog walker has really ruined my lovely morning walkies with Pimms and Cass :angry: .

Such a shame as its such a lovely day, bright sunshine with frost on the ground .

I had a 30 minute window to take the whips for a good gallop before work so took them to the park. Walked about 1/2 way round and came across a group of about 4 walkers and 5 dogs. Mine went up and said hello and I kept on walking past them, called my dogs knowing that they would follow me. Only prob was that mine appeared PLUS two huge pointers :blink: .

So off mine went again at full tilt pursued by these pointers, Pimms thought it was fun but Cass was really scared and ran back the way we had came pursued by this huge slavering dog . I kept calling him and he kept coming back and then running off as he was so scared of this pointer :angry: . In the end I managed to catch him (10 mins later into my short walk!) and put him on the lead and called Pimms to follow us..... then the massive pointers ran back at us all the way from across the park. Cass was terrified by this point and having an epi fit on the end of the lead trying to get away from the thing.

I had enough by this point so I turned and shouted to the group of walkers (still walking away from us pretty much) 'WILL YOU PLEASE CALL YOUR DOG OFF, MY DOG IS REALLY FRIGHTENED'

And the owner turned and made snotty comments about me getting out of bed the wrong side before finally calling her dog off.......

Im seething about it now, it should have been a lovely walk but Cass (still a fragile soul) has come back truly terrified :angry: . Im sure Pimms is now giving him big whippet kisses better.

I cant believe how selfish other people can be about their dogs, especially big intimidating ones like that..........!

Sorry people rant over now, thanks for listening!

Gemma xxx

 

[jezza]

Poor you, I hate it when things like that happen thats one of the reasons I only let my dogs off when there is no one else around.

I really need to socialise Lenny to other dogs with him being fear aggressive but theres few people who are actually sympathetic to his problems. I get the feeling that they think I'm over reacting, they say 'just let him off the lead, he'll be alright' but I know my dog better than they do and I know that it will make him worse. As a result, he only gets socialised at his training class and to dogs in the street, ie. ON their leads.

I have just resigned myself to the fact that he will probably never be able to play with other dogs, but I think thats mainly the fault of other dog owners who just let their dogs run up to mine when they blatantly have no control over them :rant:

Ooooh your getting me into a rant now :b I just think there are so many sensible people on this forum but why do I live in a village full of idiots!!! :lol:

There is only one dog I trust to run off lead with Lenny but I don't see him around a lot

 

[whippetsrus]

I think this happens to many of us. The number of threads I see on precisely the same subject.

Sorry you had such an awful walk. :huggles:

 

[Mark Roberts]

I cant believe how selfish other people can be about their dogs, especially big intimidating ones like that

their probably saying the same about you after their freindly group was desturbed.

i'm not supporting them but in a public park IMO all dogs should be kept on leads can you imagine the damage that could be caused if 6-10 dogs without leads broke into a fight?.

 

[quintessence]

I cant believe how selfish other people can be about their dogs, especially big intimidating ones like that

their probably saying the same about you after their freindly group was desturbed.

i'm not supporting them but in a public park IMO all dogs should be kept on leads can you imagine the damage that could be caused if 6-10 dogs without leads broke into a fight?.

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Mark is absolutely right, we have no more right to have our dogs off lead than anyone else, now it's lighter in the morning I set off half an hour earlier and there is never anyone else around so my boys have their run before the others turn up, if I am caught out mine go straight back on their leads and we toddle off, I will absolutely take no risks, if they can't free run then we just walk a bit further. I feel I am in complete control of what happens to my dogs and that's how I like it.

Jenny

 

[Janimal]

I cant believe how selfish other people can be about their dogs, especially big intimidating ones like that

their probably saying the same about you after their freindly group was desturbed.

i'm not supporting them but in a public park IMO all dogs should be kept on leads can you imagine the damage that could be caused if 6-10 dogs without leads broke into a fight?.

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Yes and its usually the Whippets that come off worst, (w00t) well in my case anyway .... and I know lots of other cases on K9 too.

their skins are so thin - and rip so easily in a fight.

 

[Pimmscass]

I know that everyone has their own ideas on this subject.......

1. I walk mine at 8.30 with the PRECISE idea that most dogs have been walked earlier then this. So I do try to take them at quieter times. Avoiding other dogs is not possible all the time.

2. My dogs went up to say hello to the people, not to molest the dogs. The dogs were off in the distance when mine trotted over. I appreciate about the fighting thing, but If I was to only let mine off where there were no other dogs mine would be on the lead the whole time :angry: .

3. I only let mine off where there are other dogs as I know that they will come back to me if I shout them. I keep an eye open, they dont get to molest other dogs and if I think they are in the slightest danger of doing so they are straight back on the lead.

Im under no illusion that mine are o . Im starting training classes soon with both of mine as I like them to be under control. But that lady allowed her dog to come after mine for a good 5 mins and did nothing about it until I asked her to. Common sense should have told her that a frightened dog can become and agressive one and her dog was inciting mine.

Its nice to hear peoples opinions though :thumbsup:

Gemma x

 

[Janimal]

I know that everyone has their own ideas on this subject.......
1.  I walk mine at 8.30 with the PRECISE idea that most dogs have been walked earlier then this.  So I do try to take them at quieter times.  Avoiding other dogs is not possible all the time.

2.  My dogs went up to say hello to the people, not to molest the dogs.  The dogs were off in the distance when mine trotted over.  I appreciate about the fighting thing, but If I was to only let mine off where there were no other dogs mine would be on the lead the whole time  :angry: .

3.  I only let mine off where there are other dogs as I know that they will come back to  me if I shout them.  I keep an eye open, they dont get to molest other dogs and if I think they are in the slightest danger of doing so they are straight back on the lead.

Im under no illusion that mine are  o . Im starting training classes soon with both of mine as I like them to be under control.  But that lady allowed her dog to come after mine for a good 5 mins and did nothing about it until I asked her to.  Common sense should have told her that a frightened dog can become and agressive one and her dog was inciting mine.

Its nice to hear peoples opinions though  :thumbsup:

Gemma x

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It is a difficult one. They probably should have called their dogs off sooner especially if they were following you, well in my opinion anyway.

Im lucky to live in a village so know 'most' of the dog owners.

We do get a few visitor (dog walkers) because the walks are so pretty, but when I see a stranger dog heading my way I usually put my dogs on the leader.

Im lucky though to be surrounded by open fields where I can let my dogs have lots of freedom, buts thats not the case for everyone.

 

[Mark Roberts]

Mine went up and said hello

So you'rs were the ones that went over to the group! the thing is you had no idea if the dogs with that group were freindly? they might have savaged yours straight away?.

IMO ALL dogs should be kept on leads in Public parks, all the parks near us have signs up to that effect?

 

[kris]

i wouldnt really call pointers huge massive dogs!or intimidating! (w00t) :lol: and every pointer ive ever met was daft as a brush and twice as friendly! i dont let mine off the lead in public cos you cant say its allright for your dogs to be off the lead and not anyone elses. any dog thats off the lead could be a potential fright for someone who doesnt like dogs or for small children or elderly people.just cos its your baby doesnt mean that everyone else looks at it that way.after all the lady who owns the pointer thinks he/she is her baby but you dont see it that way.

 

[Pimmscass]

Mine went up TO THE PEOPLE....... The dogs were off sniffing about miles off. Mine are more interested in being petted by humans then sniffing bottoms of other mutts! :- "

No I had no idea if the dogs in that group were friendly or not....but then I dont know every single dog in the city either......

Mark- How do you deal with meeting other dogs that you dont know? It must happen when yours are off the lead surely? At least sometimes..........!??!?

 

[trac]

i wouldnt really call pointers huge massive dogs!or intimidating! (w00t)   :lol: and every pointer ive ever met was daft as a brush and twice as friendly! i dont let mine off the lead in public cos you cant say its allright for your dogs to be off the lead and not anyone elses. any dog thats off the lead could be a potential fright for someone who doesnt like dogs or for small children or elderly people.just cos its your baby doesnt mean that everyone else looks at it that way.after all the lady who owns the pointer  thinks he/she is her baby but you dont see it that way.

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there is a pointer that walks where we go who is definately not as daft as abrush, it hates other dogs & will attackthem which the woman who walks admits but it is never on a lead!! she has a other 4 dogs none on leads & none that she has any control over, lots of people have complained about her & she takes no notice, i always put tia on her lead as soon as i see other dog

 

[Mark Roberts]

Mark- How do you deal with meeting other dogs that you dont know? It must happen when yours are off the lead surely? At least sometimes

our dogs are never off the lead in a public place and we also avoid steange dogs when they are on the lead as you never know when a strange dog will lung for another.

ours only get off the lead in fields (farmers) where I know no other dogs will be or at our racing club thats a private field.

it's not just the fact that the dogs could fight but as you stated the other groups dogs were away off? I wonder if their dogs crapped if they would go over and collect it (espeialy at children might play there) or leave it were it was done?.

 

[jezza]

I do sympathise with you Gemma because it has happened to me before but I don't let it happen anymore. I make sure that I definately won't see any other dogs. Is there nowhere that you can go where you know there will be dogs? Any fields near you?

I take mine to a football field just up the road, but only at certain times - like half 5 in the morning!!! Otherwise I take them to a corn field which is a little bit further and although there are other people walking dogs, the field is large enough for me to see when they are coming, providing I've got my glasses on :lol:

Is there anywhere near you like that?

I always put mine on a lead as soon as I see anyone and if they don't do the same I turn around and walk away from them. Its not worth the trouble. I once had a staffie run up to them both and ended up having to pick them both up to stop it attacking them - or it may have just wanted to play, I don't know but didn't wait to find out cos it didn't strike me as the friendly type

 

[fallenangel]

i agre with mark on this one mine nere go off lead in parks andplaces with other dogs about. It drives me md when peoepl let there dogs come over to mine shouting its ok my dogs frendly 3 of mine are losing there sighet and even though there perfectly happy on the lead trotting about with us they carnt read the signals from other dogs coming up to the and they get very scared and cos there greyhounds Big dogs they would get the blame if they bit.

when mine need a good run i take them out a 5 am to an encloesd fealed. if we got to the beach we walk to fined realy secluede spots and then they only go off in ones and twos. I wounld not allwoe mine to go up to strange dogs or people and i expect the same back. I delibralt look for parks and places that say dogs must be keeped on the lead then nobody getting scred ot hurt

 

[Trish]

Poor you, I hate it when things like that happen    thats one of the reasons I only let my dogs off when there is no one else around.
I really need to socialise Lenny to other dogs with him being fear aggressive but theres few people who are actually sympathetic to his problems. I get the feeling that they think I'm over reacting, they say 'just let him off the lead, he'll be alright' but I know my dog better than they do and I know that it will make him worse. As a result, he only gets socialised at his training class and to dogs in the street, ie. ON their leads.

I have just resigned myself to the fact that he will probably never be able to play with other dogs, but I think thats mainly the fault of other dog owners who just let their dogs run up to mine when they blatantly have no control over them  :rant:

Ooooh your getting me into a rant now  :b   I just think there are so many sensible people on this forum but why do I live in a village full of idiots!!!  :lol:

There is only one dog I trust to run off lead with Lenny but I don't see him around a lot 

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next year lucy we will have to have a get together and see how lenny gets on with my lot,if we let one off at a time so hes not too stressed out with them all,you never know it might do. :thumbsup: some good

p.s I WANT A DIVORCE,ah thats better my rant over :thumbsup:

 

[wunwin]

A woman round us walks her pointers in ELECTRIC COLLARS they are so badly behaved

 

[~elizabeth~]

I sympathise. Personally I prefer to let mine off lead to socialise with other dogs (no secret) and historically it' never been a problem as we all know each other here and most of the other local dogs are well-socialsed too. I'd rather take the risks of this than not socialise my dogs personally.

However, times are changing and we are seeing a difference in the sorts of dogs and owners who are walking. There are far more people with extremely boisterous pairs of labs, pointers and springers (many of whom seem to be new dog owners); I got mobbed by a GSP and lab when I had the puppy out a couple of days ago and he was a bit frightened by them. I got angry quite angry with them as the owners were just gossiping and not showing any inclination to call them off. When they eventually did call them the dogs took no notice. I've met the GSP before and even though it's only about 6 months it's extremely nervous and has shown signs of fear aggression towards Gelert. :angry:

Another thing that these dogs do is come up to be friendly to you as a person, then growl aggressively/defensively at your own dogs if they come near you. :wacko: This happened yesterday while I was talking to another whippet owner, and her dog was so frightened she ran all the way back to the main road and waited by her owners car, while the owner of the lab just stood there gormless without helping or calling the dog off. They seem to be in denial about the behaviour of their dogs quite honestly; they assume just because they are sociable to people they behave well with other dogs which just isn't the case in many instances.

Edited to say we once had a nice village but the idiots are appearing here too

 

[Mark Roberts]

A woman round us walks her pointers in ELECTRIC COLLARS they are so badly behaved

sounds like the owner would be better off wearing them

 

[Mark Roberts]

They seem to be in denial about the behaviour of their dogs quite honestly; they assume just because they are sociable to people they behave well with other dogs which just isn't the case in many instances.

I bet their kids are equaly as well behaved as well?.