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[kim & Tilly]

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[SIZE=8pt]I was thinking of straping beans leg up out the way...but do you think it will make her stiff??[/SIZE]

 

[OEH]

I don't think that's a good idea, you could do more harm than good. If you think she is doing harm by putting weight on it keep her in her crate and get her to a decent vet tomorrow.

:luck:

 

[EJW]

I wouldn't strap her leg. Strains & sprains take a while to heal. There are a couple of homeopathic vets in Bristol (sorry don't have the phone numbers)

Mr C Aukland

146 Bath Road

Longwell Green

Bristol

Mr J Hoare

12 Martains Rd

Hanham

Bristol

Hope this may be of help if she doesn't improve :thumbsup:

 

[kim & Tilly]

Thank you,

it has been like this since friday, not really any change

Seems to go up and down, good, bad good bad :wacko:

 

[wild whippies]

If it is a sprain then think of it like yourself if you had sprained something. If you don't move the limb at all it of course goes stiff and of course more sore. Yes it should be rested but her walking about the house shouldn't cause harm. Didn't your vet give you any advice?

 

[JAX]

Not only that , but you will put too much strain on her other legs , neck and shoulders .

 

[*Lesley*]

I would definatley take her to a different vet kim just for your own piece of mind, then if he says the same it's just a matter of waiting if you pull a muscle or strain something it can take a while to get better but at least you'll feel better with a second oppinion :luck:

 

[Seraphina]

Sounds like a soft tissue injury. I would crate her and walk her on the leash (for at least a week or two AFTER she stops limping), so she cannot jump and twist and damge herself further. If it does not improve in couple of days I would look for a greyhound chiropractor. I am absolutely positive there is nothing broken - you would know if there was, believe me!

I would definitely not strap her leg, for all the reasons above, plus she is more likely to injure herself more if she is on 3 legs. :luck:

 

[kim & Tilly]

UPDATE

I have the numbers for about 4 vets some grey hound vets some homeopathic, i will ring and get some advice.

All my vet said was rest it and bring her back for xrays if she is still limping...

Am giving her arnica 200c and massaging it daily.

I am trying to crate her, but she screams, so i am keeping her calm and out the way of tilly who tends to do her tigger act and bounces on her.

I have an appointment with the vet on mon, as she has her second jabs and micro chipping due.

Thank you so much for all the advice

Kim

 

[OEH]

Look- I hate to be too blunt BUT-

Firstly- If you are really worried- which you clearly are by the number of topics you have started- and think that there is a serious problem for heavens sake take her to a vet who knows how these dogs work NOW and don't wait for monday.

Secondly- people have already said that 200c is too much for a little puppy, weigh her and find out how much she needs (if it can do good at one level then it is possible that it will do harm at a higher level)- why not ring the hoemopathic vet about this, I'm sure they'd tell you the correct amount

Thirdly- if the vet said to go back if she's still limping why have you not gone back?

 

[Janimal]

I agree Olivia. Dont leave it too long kim and Tilly - she will improve Im sure - but with professional help.

 

[OEH]

Also having done a VERY brief check on the internet I have found that 15c is the correct amount for a FULL GROWN dog.

 

[clairej810]

Personally I wouldn't strap her leg, like everyone else has said she may hurt herself more on 3 legs.

I would be inclined to go straight back to the vet as well.

 

[dessie]

Also having done a VERY brief check on the internet I have found that 15c is the correct amount for a FULL GROWN dog.

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The size or age of the dog has NOTHING to do with the potency you use for homoeopathic medicines. It is what the remedy is to be used for. For normal strains/sprains of soft tissue you could use either 15c or 30c. I would use the 30c as the initial dosage in the first 24 hours and then go for 15c. I would not use any higher potency with any remedy unless advised to do so by a Homoeopathic Vet or you are experienced with the remedies.

I would stop trying to self treat when you are obviously not experienced enough to do so and take the puppy to a Vet who is experienced with sighthounds or do as we have all suggested and rest her properly and not let the older dog rag her and let nature take its course. If she is lame I would not even lead walk her.

 

[kim & Tilly]

Now im confused...

First i was told by people on here not to take her back to the vet cause she didnt need to be xrayed and that rest would be good for her. If after a week she was still limping take her back then. Which i am going to do monday

Then someone said give her Arnica 200c (three times a day) Now im not supposed to

To cage her which i am as much as possible

And to speak to a grey hound vet which im doing today

I have come to the conclusion, that there is way to much conflicting advice and i will just post pictures and her adventures and if i need any other advice i wont look here.....

 

[wild whippies]

There's conflicting advice because people have different opinions and experiences. If you want a diagnosis, a treatment plan, after care and advice from an experienced knowledgable individual seek a vet. If you don't want your dog x-raying and anaethetised tell the vet, there could be other options available so ask. And if your still unhappy seek a second opinion......... from another vet.

I respect everyones advice on here but I think folk can see where I'm coming from.

 

[OEH]

Yes but if you were worried enough to suggest strapping it up visit to a good sighthound vet does seem like a good idea.

Lots and lots have people have said this, and you have been recommended two excellent ones. I think that this advice has been very consistent. Just because you go back to the vet doesn't mean you have to have an x-ray.

My vet Mr Bartholomew found out exactly what was wrong with Tess just by feeling her all over very carefully when two other vets had completely misdaiagnosed her. We then confirmed the diagnosis with and x-ray and he was spot on. I trust him completely with this sort of problem

I honestly will never take mine to a 'pet' vet for injury problems again. They often just don't have the experience with running dogs.

I agree that the advice on the arnica has been confusing so why don't you speak to one of the homeopathic vets.

:luck:

 

[kim & Tilly]

Yes but if you were worried enough to suggest strapping it up visit to a good sighthound vet does seem like a good idea.
Lots and lots have people have said this, and you have been recommended two excellent ones.  I think that this advice has been very consistent.  Just because you go back to the vet doesn't mean you have to have an x-ray.

My vet Mr Bartholomew found out exactly what was wrong with Tess just by feeling her all over very carefully  when two other vets had completely misdaiagnosed her.  We then confirmed the diagnosis with and x-ray and he was spot on. I trust him completely with this sort of problem

I honestly will never take mine to a 'pet' vet for injury problems again.  They often just don't have the experience with running dogs.

I agree that the advice on the arnica has been confusing so why don't you speak to one of the homeopathic vets.

:luck:

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I am really upset :'(

I was trying to do the right thing and not panic and i have done everything everyone has told me, except ring the vet details i was given, which i was going to do today.....

I feel like i have done the wrong thing and i should have just took her back, but i was listening to peoples advice. (posted and PMed)

I look like i dont care and i do...

I have an appointment tonight

 

[OEH]

Good luck this evening :luck:

And I am sure if you speak to him Mr Bartholomew will be extremely helpful.

There probably isn't anything serious at all, its just that you seemed worried, but not doing the easiest thing to ease your worry which I and possibly others found frustrating.

 

[BeeJay]

>The size or age of the dog has NOTHING to do with the potency you use for homoeopathic medicines. It is what the remedy is to be used for. For normal strains/sprains of soft tissue you could use either 15c or 30c. I would use the 30c as the initial dosage in the first 24 hours and then go for 15c. I would not use any higher potency with any remedy unless advised to do so by a Homoeopathic Vet or you are experienced with the remedies.

I agree totally and I have a homeopathic vet we have discussed these high potencies and their misuse. You can over dose with homeopathic medicine and cause problems which have to be undone with other homeopathic medicine and which make it harder for a homeopathic vet to diagnose and treat. (One reason why I have given up using the dog combination nosodes btw)

Secondly Arnica shouldn't be being given for days on end. There is no point. You give Arnica immediately after the injury occurs and up to 24 hours. If it's not working by then you need to use something else. Bean had arnica given to him by my vets after his op. He had extensive and bad bruising. The bruising was still there 4 days later and I was told that there was no point in continuing to give it as it wasn't the right treatment. He was given something else - which typically me I can't remember what it's called - and the bruising had amost gone the next day.

I don't know which vets you're going to. But if you are going to see Simon at Swindon he'll stretch her out and find out what's wrong. He'll also tell you exactly how to treat what's wrong with her.