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I’m so frustrated. :rant:

Done my home work – read the books – investigated the cycle period.

-BUT NOTHING-

She is currently on what I believe to be her 14th day. My male has been sniffing/licking her. Follows her everywhere. He gets so frustrated if she is out of sight…….

He’s now started to protect her, knocking my other bitch away if she comes too close.

BUT NO SIGNS OF MOUNTING HER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Don’t know what to do for the good.

The wife keeps telling me to assist, but I have no idea how I should do that… :- "

Might get them some Barry White music & candles……………..

If anyone knows – all suggestions welcome. (Serious).
 
dont have any idea about breeding but just a thought are they young still????
 
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I believe that, dependent on the bitch of course, between the 11th and 15th days tend to be the time when a mating is most likely to be successful. But the period when they are at their most fertile will be different from dog to dog.

I know when Holly comes into season, we will be keeping a very close eye from about the 9th day. :thumbsup:

No idea why your dog isn't interested. When Logan was 6 months, he would have mounted Holly at every given opportunity. :eek:
 
Hi.

The dogs 13 months old - the bitch is 15 months (second season).

The dog has been humping her on & off for months (pardon the pun). but now it's time to do the business, he's stopped.

This may sound silly, but I have to ask - If he has mated with her whilst our backs were turned - would that be it. OR do they mate more than once with the same bitch during the same season ?
 
trish g said:
dont have any idea about breeding but just a thought are they young still????
I agree Trish, with regards to the bitch,she only 15 months,why don't you wait until she is at least two years old :thumbsup:
 
daledogs said:
trish g said:
dont have any idea about breeding but just a thought are they young still????
I agree Trish, with regards to the bitch,she only 15 months,why don't you wait until she is at least two years old :thumbsup:

i agree , much too young for a bitch to have a litter , id wait untill she is at LEAST 2 years old :thumbsup:
 
I was always lead to believe that the second season was the best a bitch would have.. (the ultimate season). That's why I aimed to have pups on her second time around. I'm in no rush for her to have pups, and would quite happily wait until the next season. I'm not in this for gain.. .. I intend to have her down the vets once she has had her 1 and only litter.
 
I would agree with Dawn that it might be an idea to wait until her 3rd season, unless she is a very mature bitch and you really do think that she is ready now. We have waited until Holly is 2 and on her 3rd season before mating her, as it has taken her this long to mature.

We will be having at least 2 matings. Fortunately, as we are using our own dog , we have the luxury to have 3 if necessary.

I think you will find that the majority will have a couple of matings, normally one day after the other, or with a day or 2 inbetween

Your dog is the same age as one of ours now and he would certainly be willing to perform if asked to! :oops:
 
I commend you for having done your home work, (and had to laugh at the music and candle light bit :lol: ) but I can't help feeling that you're fairly new to the breed, have two young novice whippets, hence the confusion & reluctance on the part of your dogs.

You'll probably tell me to 'mind my own', but I'd personally leave breeding whippets to those that pursue a dedicated activity, have had their dogs assessed in these activities i.e. showing/coursing/racing/working and know them to be sound & talented and promise to produce puppies that can take their line forward. These breeders quite often have people waiting for their pups and want to keep one or two of their own to carry on the line.

I apologise in advance if I have got this wrong, and you have actively been involved in the above, but there are an awful lot of pups around at the moment and this needs to be taken into consideration. :oops:
 
Nicola said:
I commend you for having done your home work, (and had to laugh at the music and candle light bit  :lol: ) but I can't help feeling that you're fairly new to the breed, have two young novice whippets, hence the confusion & reluctance on the part of your dogs.
You'll probably tell me to 'mind my own', but I'd personally leave breeding whippets to those that pursue a dedicated activity, have had their dogs assessed in these activities i.e. showing/coursing/racing/working and know them to be sound & talented and promise to produce puppies that can take their line forward. These breeders quite often have people waiting for their pups and want to keep one or two of their own to carry on the line.

I apologise in advance if I have got this wrong, and you have actively been involved in the above, but there are an awful lot of pups around at the moment and this needs to be taken into consideration.  :oops:


i was just going to post exactly the same but trying to find the words :b

im not getting at anyone here and the same as nicola i apologise if i offend anyone :oops:

take a look on epupz , preloved , kc puppy register , classifieds etc etc , as stated on a previous thread whippets are now in the top 20 breeds :(

there are 1000<s of whippet puppies for sale :( :(

im not saying people shouldnt breed but to think carefully as to why your breeding :(

my litter was to carry on my line , i have shown both mum and daughter succesfully but if its just to get one because you want one of your own as your dogs are soo good then think again :- "

the girl i kept is NOTHING like her mum , her mum is soooo laid back its unreal but Bliss would have ADHD if she was a human :- "

sometimes its better to buy a pup in rather than to add to the already flooded market :thumbsup:

they are your dogs and you shall do as you please and good luck to whatever you decide :luck:

have a good think about the future of the puppies you will bring into this world and if you have the time / money etc to pay for all there vaccinations etc and are prpared to keep them if you cant find suitable homes for them :thumbsup:
 
Nicola said:
I commend you for having done your home work, (and had to laugh at the music and candle light bit  :lol: ) but I can't help feeling that you're fairly new to the breed, have two young novice whippets, hence the confusion & reluctance on the part of your dogs.
You'll probably tell me to 'mind my own', but I'd personally leave breeding whippets to those that pursue a dedicated activity, have had their dogs assessed in these activities i.e. showing/coursing/racing/working and know them to be sound & talented and promise to produce puppies that can take their line forward. These breeders quite often have people waiting for their pups and want to keep one or two of their own to carry on the line.

I apologise in advance if I have got this wrong, and you have actively been involved in the above, but there are an awful lot of pups around at the moment and this needs to be taken into consideration.  :oops:

What an excellent post Nicola.

We have waited til the right time to breed from our dogs, and are breeding for a pup to keep for ourselves to show and start the Citycroft line. We also have 5 people on the waiting list for one of our puppies and this is before the mating has even taken place. This is because both dam and sire are from excellent lines and the sire in particular has been extremely successful in the show ring.

All our friends who have bred dogs tell us that it is incredibly hard work, but they have all bred to establish their own lines. If we were not involved in the field we are, we would certainly not be breeding from our bitch.
 
i agree with most of whats been said here.she far too young to be having puppies at that age.shes immature and might have problems feeding them and looking after them.also as has been said the markets flooded with whippet pups and some of them are going to end up in rescue and theres going to be problems ahead for this breed.too many are breeding a litter cos they can and for no better reason.why not have her spayed and give a home to a dog that ends up in rescue that is homeless through no fault of its own?thats a much more responsible thing to do. :)

dont breed or buy while healthy dogs die
 
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Out of curiosity, where is this theory behind 'the ultimate season'? Is this an old wives tale or something as it's new to me? :unsure:

Most non-ped racing whippet dams are lined when they reach veteran class (5yrs old) certainly doesn't seem to cause a hinderance and at least the Dam's proved her worth by then and like I said on another thread today, there's usually a waiting list acrued by then.

If it's because they've got a greater likelihood of producing more puppies, I can't really see how this is advantageous? :unsure:
 
I’m lucky enough to have a good job – so money is no issue here.

I have 5 places for pups already waiting. They are family members, (2 are previous whippet owners) and a lot of thought has gone into it. This is not a rushed into idea. I know litters are usually 7 or 8, and would be more than happy to hold onto the remainder of the pups – pending suitable homing. (trust me – my wife would scrutinize any person wanting a pup (our dogs are more like family members than pets)).

I do understand and agree with the amount of puppy whippets available at the moment. I don’t want my pups to be “just another statistic”.

"Put another way" - my dogs are like family members... Would anyone out there prefer to buy a child, or become a grandparent ? ? ?

As for the second season being the best - it's just something I come acorss on the internet. (but i do agree - the internet can also provide bad advice). That's why I am on this site, asking questions to people who can give good constructive answers.. .
 
BRI&SHELLI said:
I’m lucky enough to have a good job – so money is no issue here.I have 5 places for pups already waiting.  They are family members, (2 are previous whippet owners) and a lot of thought has gone into it.  This is not a rushed into idea.  I know litters are usually 7 or 8, and would be more than happy to hold onto the remainder of the pups – pending suitable homing. (trust me – my wife would scrutinize any person wanting a pup (our dogs are more like family members than pets)).

I do understand and agree with the amount of puppy whippets available at the moment.  I don’t want my pups to be “just another statistic”. 

"Put another way" - my dogs are like family members...  Would anyone out there prefer to buy a child, or become a grandparent ? ? ?

As for the second season being the best - it's just something I come acorss on the internet. (but i do agree - the internet can also provide bad advice).  That's why I am on this site, asking questions to people who can give good constructive answers.. .

the generall feeling as you have found is to prehaps wait untill she is over 2 yrs old to mate her , she is probably not ovulating yet thats why your boys isnt trying to mate with her , some bitches dont ovulate into late into there season .

its good you have homes lined up and im sure they will wait another few months when you explain that you have the bitch,s best interest at heart :thumbsup:
 
not had chance to read all the replies, etc yet but just a quick comment, i dont know if you plan on registering the pups but i believe that a dog has to be over 18 months ( or is it 15 :unsure: ) to mate a bitch if the pups are to be eligiable for kc registration.? correct me if im wrong, but im sure i read that somewhere.
 
if this isnt a rushed into mating and its well thought out i presume that you also did research into your bitch and dogs bloodlines before deciding that they would be ideally suited to one another to mate?what are your dogs faults/virtues?what are your bitches faults/virtues?and that as they grow up you decided that your male would be the best choice of stud dog for your female?as for any health issues i also presume they have good health records and their parents and their parents behind them?so after youve done all this research the big day comes and your bitch is in season and you decide to mate her.the research youve done about what age to mate is already proven by most breeders here to be wrong and you also admit that you read on the internet that a bitches 2nd season is the 'best one' to mate her and that is also wrong.tbh imho i think youd be better off not breeding and telling your relatives that theres lots of dogs in rescue that need homes so if they want to give a dog a home to go to your local rescue centre and get one.if they dont want to do that then maybe theyd be better off going to a reputable,responsible breeder who knows exactly what theyre doing and get a pup from them.im not being personal and knocking you here but i think you need to do a lot more research by asking good breeders who know what theyre talking about before embarking on this enterprise.(id love to know who recommended mating a bitch on her 2nd season?) :blink: its good that you have homes waiting.but i know people who have gone ahead and done matings on the say so of friends and neighbours who have said id love a pup is you ever mate sally/tilly/nelly.then when the time comes theyve got every excuse in the book not to have one.they never really wanted one its just that they were being polite saying theyd have a pup if they ever bred.now im not saying this applies to you all im saying is theres many a slip twixt cup and lip if you know what i mean? :thumbsup: you obviously dont need the money and i daresay your bitch doesnt need a litter so think carefully if its in the best interests of the breed as a whole to bring a litter of pups into the world and if its in the best interests of your bitch to let her have a litter.good luck to you whatever you decide. :luck: :)
 

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