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Just a question... how do you know if the "deed" has been done? I am trying to mate my brindle bitch at the moment but I was unsure on what to look for to say "yes this worked very well" she was with the sire and he was trying to get stuck in, but i have been told that it is only a "yes this worked" if they get stuck together!

Anyone know what I should be looking out for?

Thanks... i know this is a bit of a wierd subject lol :b
 
I have been looking for information on the internet, and all i seem to find is horror stories of mass death! lol

If anyone can help then i would be very happy :)
 
To have the best chance of success the dogs need to 'tie' or as you put it get stuck together! (w00t)

But you can still have success without this happening but the chances are very slim indeed.
 
Wouldnt it be better to research all this before you tried to mate the dogs...
 
Janimal said:
Wouldnt it be better to research all this before you tried to mate the dogs...
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There realy is no need to be so patronising :angry: , I do not intend to make a bussiness out of this, i simply want one litter.

I also know that dogs tie, but was also told that this may only happen on a first mateing.

I have also been told that "tieing" does not always have to happen for a mateing to take place.

Please do not misunderstand me I am not thick, I simply have been given a lot of different information over a period of time, and simply was asking for suggestions or perhaps personal experiances.
 
Sorry I wasnt trying to be patronising...only thinking maybe the thoughts had come after trying the mating out instead of maybe doing a little more research on what should happen beforehand... :blink: I wasnt implying that you were thick by any means...

It isnt always text book mating I know..but before I mated my dog I did a lot of reading up and asking advice long before the actual deed took place.

It also seemed a little hasty to me....as you were going to have a puppy from Lesley wernt you.. :unsure:
 
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I was but we were unable to get there.

I have since been given a puppy lol

No the reason I wished my girl to have a litter is (a) My mum's dog recently died from kidneys failing. (b) there are many medical benefits from having a litter before spaying which we intend to do © I have already looked into homes for the puppys if she does indeed have them (I have homed 7! and there not even conceved yet)

This is her best season according to the books and people i have consulted, as its the season closest to her second birthday.

I'm sorry if i seemed angry and if you meant no offence then thats fine :)

I would have informed the forums of the arrival of the puppy and the death of our oldest dog but my mother has been ill of late and i am her only carer.
 
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I was but we were unable to get there.I have since been given a puppy lol

No the reason I wished my girl to have a litter is (a) My mum's dog recently died from kidneys failing. (b) there are many medical benefits from having a litter before spaying which we intend to do © I have already looked into homes for the puppys if she does indeed have them (I have homed 7! and there not even conceved yet)

This is her best season according to the books and people i have consulted, as its the season closest to her second birthday.

I'm sorry if i seemed angry and if you meant no offence then thats fine  :)

I would have informed the forums of the arrival of the puppy and the death of our oldest dog but my mother has been ill of late and i am her only carer.

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Are there - what specifically are they then?? An old wives tale IMO. Don't have a litter because you think it will of some health benefit because really it isn't.

Don't rely on 7 people saying they want a pup now - it can be a different story when the pups actually arrive. I've had dozens and dozens and dozens of enquiries about my impending arrivals - lots not suitable, some get fed up waiting and go else where in the meantime, others in our opinion are suitable and are patiently waiting :huggles:

If you do proceed, i suggest reading 'The book of the Bitch' and 'The Whelping and rearing of puppies'. Also, find a mentor - and quick!

Just another point - surely the Stud Dog owner knows what they are doing and is supervising this mating???? :blink:
 
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code_veronica said:
I was but we were unable to get there.I have since been given a puppy lol

No the reason I wished my girl to have a litter is (a) My mum's dog recently died from kidneys failing. (b) there are many medical benefits from having a litter before spaying which we intend to do © I have already looked into homes for the puppys if she does indeed have them (I have homed 7! and there not even conceved yet)

This is her best season according to the books and people i have consulted, as its the season closest to her second birthday.

I'm sorry if i seemed angry and if you meant no offence then thats fine  :)

I would have informed the forums of the arrival of the puppy and the death of our oldest dog but my mother has been ill of late and i am her only carer.

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Are there - what specifically are they then?? An old wives tale IMO. Don't have a litter because you think it will of some health benefit because really it isn't.

Don't rely on 7 people saying they want a pup now - it can be a different story when the pups actually arrive. I've had dozens and dozens and dozens of enquiries about my impending arrivals - lots not suitable, some get fed up waiting and go else where in the meantime, others in our opinion are suitable and are patiently waiting :huggles:

If you do proceed, i suggest reading 'The book of the Bitch' and 'The Whelping and rearing of puppies'.

Just another point - surely the Stud Dog owner knows what they are doing and is supervising this mating???? :blink:

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Good post Jo :thumbsup:

TCx
 
Im always with my stud dog. If he lines a big bitch, most of them were :p , he needs his back feet off the ground. I normaly use cusions. If the bitch is smaller, then the bitchs back feet go on the cusions.

When the tie takes place, I never let by lad go back to back, he's side on,,,I always keep him still and the owner of the bitch must keep her still.

Slip mating can result in pups,,,but better if you get a tie.

A stud dog can tie at every lining. Mine did :oops: :D

Is the stud proven ?
 
I too do not know of any medical benefits from having a litter. I have bred two litters and believe me, its really hard work. I was very lucky and my bitch whelped easily but sometimes things go wrong and the Vet fees can be horrendous. You also have to feed mum and pups really well which is not cheap. Wormers ( every two weeks for everyone) are expensive too. I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I do suggest that you put off breeding (assuming she isn't already in whelp) until you have done a lot more research. The best way to get a new puppy, really is to go to a reputable breeder and book one from lines you like and that are relevant for the hobby ( show, working, racing) that you may choose to persue.
 
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I too do not know of any medical benefits from having a litter.  I have bred two litters and believe me, its really hard work.  I was very lucky and my bitch whelped easily but sometimes things go wrong and the Vet fees can be horrendous. You also have to feed mum and pups really well which is not cheap. Wormers ( every two weeks for everyone) are expensive too.  I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I do suggest that you put off breeding (assuming she isn't already in whelp) until you have done a lot more research.  The best way to get a new puppy, really is to go to a reputable breeder and book one from lines you like and that are relevant for the hobby ( show, working, racing) that you may choose to persue.
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Good post Juley. :thumbsup:

VERY VERY HARD WORK, PEOPLE JUST DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE. :eek: :eek:
 
Juley said:
I too do not know of any medical benefits from having a litter.  I have bred two litters and believe me, its really hard work.  I was very lucky and my bitch whelped easily but sometimes things go wrong and the Vet fees can be horrendous. You also have to feed mum and pups really well which is not cheap. Wormers ( every two weeks for everyone) are expensive too.  I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I do suggest that you put off breeding (assuming she isn't already in whelp) until you have done a lot more research.  The best way to get a new puppy, really is to go to a reputable breeder and book one from lines you like and that are relevant for the hobby ( show, working, racing) that you may choose to persue.
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There are no medical benefits at all of having a litter. Trust me, I'm a stud vet... :)

there is a debate as to whether it's better to spay before or after the first season - if you spay before, the incidence of mammary carcinoma (breast cancer) is markedly reduced, but there's a risk (which may be surgeon-dependent to some degree - some surgeons are more careful than others) of later urinary incontinence and of the entire urinary system failing to mature properly.

so on the whole, I'd let them have a first season, and then spay in the anoestrus afterwards, but I know some of the people who are desperate to reduce the number of unwanted pups born in the UK every year (there are way, way too many) advise careful spaying before the first season simply to prevent unplanned, unwanted, unsaleable litters from dam and sire lines that are not compatible and where the parents-to-be have not been tested for any of the relevant inherited defects.

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It is not the first litter that I have had, I'm not going in "blind"

I don't get why everyone seems to be negative towards me, it was a simple question of wether to get a mateing it has to be a tie.

I'm not a breeder, I do not intend this as a business.

As for the medical benefits, my vet said that it can help towars preventing some cancers compared to getting a bitch spayed who hasn't had a litter.

This will be my first and most likely my last litter useing this bitch, as I say I'm not in it for the business.

The reason my mother wants a pup from my bitch is that she knows without any doubt that the mother is a friendly and calm dog.

so thanks for the negative comments, it hasn't been any help.

I didn't realise breeders were so unapproachable.
 
code_veronica said:
I was but we were unable to get there.I have since been given a puppy lol

No the reason I wished my girl to have a litter is (a) My mum's dog recently died from kidneys failing. (b) there are many medical benefits from having a litter before spaying which we intend to do © I have already looked into homes for the puppys if she does indeed have them (I have homed 7! and there not even conceved yet)

This is her best season according to the books and people i have consulted, as its the season closest to her second birthday.

I'm sorry if i seemed angry and if you meant no offence then thats fine  :)

I would have informed the forums of the arrival of the puppy and the death of our oldest dog but my mother has been ill of late and i am her only carer.

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7 people saying they want a pup doesn't mean you have 7 homes, you should know that better than anyone
 
code_veronica said:
It is not the first litter that I have had, I'm not going in "blind"I don't get why everyone seems to be negative towards me, it was a simple question of wether to get a mateing it has to be a tie.

I'm not a breeder, I do not intend this as a business.

As for the medical benefits, my vet said that it can help towars preventing some cancers compared to getting a bitch spayed who hasn't had a litter.

This will be my first and most likely my last litter useing this bitch, as I say I'm not in it for the business.

The reason my mother wants a pup from my bitch is that she knows without any doubt that the mother is a friendly and calm dog.

so thanks for the negative comments, it hasn't been any help.

I didn't realise breeders were so unapproachable.

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I presume you mean "in order for the bitch to get in whelp, does there have to be a tie?" If that's what you are asking - the answer is no. Puppies can result from 'slip' matings, but as already said, a tie is preferable.

People are not being unapproachable, it is just that when you come on asking very basic questions, there is bound to be concern that you are making a decision to mate her in haste.

Im sorry if you don't like the responses you are getting, but i think those that have answered are just being honest :thumbsup:
 
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code_veronica said:
It is not the first litter that I have had, I'm not going in "blind"I don't get why everyone seems to be negative towards me, it was a simple question of wether to get a mateing it has to be a tie.

I'm not a breeder, I do not intend this as a business.

As for the medical benefits, my vet said that it can help towars preventing some cancers compared to getting a bitch spayed who hasn't had a litter.

This will be my first and most likely my last litter useing this bitch, as I say I'm not in it for the business.

The reason my mother wants a pup from my bitch is that she knows without any doubt that the mother is a friendly and calm dog.

so thanks for the negative comments, it hasn't been any help.

I didn't realise breeders were so unapproachable.

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hi there ,i think the reason that some people are so negative is because of the amount of rescue cases that have been cropping up latley i for one have a rescue case and ther not a pretty sight ,ther are so many litters and whippet puppies around lately its unreal and some of these will end up as rescue cases, and as somone else said earlyer in this post just because you have homes linned up at the moment whats the bet by time ther born and weaned some of them will pull out ,but this is just my opinion ,i also think you are getting negative coments towards you because you dont sound like you know what to expect as your asking many questions and all these questions should have been answered before you even considered mating and as you said youve already done a mating before so shurley you should no what to expect ,i hope things work out for you :thumbsup:
 
I have just read a post you put on yesterday, you say the stud dog has sired 4 litters ..... have the stud dog owners given you any advice ?
 
(to answer the above question it is a different sire, as the first sire was uninterested, and the owner suggested this stud so I didn't miss her season, as it will be January untill her next one)
 
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