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[coatsy]

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do you think it is fare to race a greyhound against a none ped or a lurcher

 

[wild whippies]

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[Vicky]

do you think it is fare to race a greyhound against a none ped or a lurcher

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I think that's entirely up to the non ped owners.

 

[Paws123]

do you think it is fare to race a greyhound against a none ped or a lurcher

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I think that's entirely up to the non ped owners.

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Me too :thumbsup:

ive schooled a few greyhound around the bends with one or two of our whippets over the years

 

[mutley]

no the non ped scratch racers usualy to fast

 

[Paws123]

do you think it is fare to race a greyhound against a none ped or a lurcher

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do you think its fare

 

[sean nd poppy]

dont see why not

 

[jasper.]

i am not frightend of racing my 3/4 none ped against a greyhound,

 

[coatsy]

im meaning racing a greyhound against lurchers at a lurcher event

 

[wild whippies]

Well why don't you ask in the lurcher forum then?

I'm aware of the motivations behind this post even though others may not.

One thing you might like to contemplate though Coatsy. If you get a 50/50 greyXwhip and line it to a 50/50 greyXwhip you can have pups that are genetically 100% greyhound. Infact it's fair to say that if there's grey DNA on both sides, regardless of how small, their is a real possibilty of producing a dog that is genetically 100% greyhound, it's low but it can happen.

It's the reason why you won't get folk biting in the non-ped forum, these folk have seen it happen.

 

[Paws123]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too

Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

 

[sadieandco]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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Dee are you saying that i could run a 'full greyhound' alongside our whippets or whippet x greyhounds ????? I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

Saw this topic and thought not again - and still have to reply - i'll never learn to keep quiet lol

 

[wild whippies]

Genetically, I've been told by many that greyhounds and whippets are near identical. DNA testing apparently wouldn't be able to differentiate the two. Bear in mind all dogs are genetically similar, it's the small variations that result in such wide physical differences between breeds. So when you take 2 physically similar breeds it's going to be extremely difficult to seperate the variations that make one different from another. In the likes of non-peds where your deliberatly crossing the 2 then it's going to be even more difficult.

Chimpanzees are 98.5% genetically identical to humans yet the physical differences are huge (in most humans lol) :lol:

Ascertaining parentage through DNA testing is another matter though.

 

[sadieandco]

Chimpanzees are 98.5% genetically identical to humans yet the physical differences are huge (in most humans lol) :lol:

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OK i give in now i'm not going to try and sort the chimps from the humans at racing - that might be tougher than whippets or greyhounds :- " :thumbsup:

 

[Paws123]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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Dee are you saying that i could run a 'full greyhound' alongside our whippets or whippet x greyhounds ????? I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

Saw this topic and thought not again - and still have to reply - i'll never learn to keep quiet lol

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I would say 98% of our none peds have a % of greyhound in them now ..because of the way our breeding pool has been for the past 30 years or so ... ours are none ped whippets if they were not they would be pedds ...so does that make none peds whippets or lurchers or greyhounds ...let jac sort that one out

Dee are you saying that i could run a 'full greyhound' alongside our whippets or whippet x greyhounds ?????

I know that there has been greyhound run over the years with our none peds .. and the question was

do you think it is fare to race a greyhound against a none ped

just stating

Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets

 

[wild whippies]

Just been looking further into this and apparently geneticists can't tell the difference between chihuahuas and great danes let alone whippets and greyhounds.

Interesting that the dog genome project was the study that some K9ers participated in with relation to bully whippets, apparently it is them that are mapping the dogs DNA. With human DNA mapping, there was $3 billion dollars of funding. The dog genome project is a lot less funded with a lot of contributions being made by breeders. The Dog Genome Project

Interesting article about the diffculties of mapping dog's DNA

 

[Paws123]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

 

[sadieandco]

With great difficulty i would say - we have raced greyhounds as well as whippets and we ran small greyhounds 51lber and 54lber aswell as bigger ones too, so many of the no limiters are far bigger than the greyhounds we raced - but at the same time i wouldnt call a no limiter whippet like in appearance i would prob say greyhound like - but thats just my opinion - and whether big or small i'm into racing so i enjoy watching all sizes race.

But on the other hand if in your litter a 30lber was thrown i would say whippet like in appearance so its down to opinion on what one calls whippet like or greyhound like i guess )and obviously by looking at the pedigree of the dogs, so to make life simpler i just think we do 'dog' racing nowadays saves all the hassle, but again all these things have been said before so nothing new with this topic :thumbsup: whether you race small or big it is your own individual choice as to whether you race with whatever dog no one forces you - your own choice no one forces you to put your dog in a race and if your not happy you can always withdraw your dog

 

[Paws123]

Lol so is it fair to run a greyhound with none ped whippets or lurcher lol only joking but good answer sadieandco :thumbsup:

Never mind that question to the topic was put on for a different reason all together me thinks

 

[milly]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds