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But he wants to race now with his family with the lovely people of the none ped comunity ...and enjoy itsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
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he is only allowed one dog so whats the pointrodders said:Choice 3 Denise.Put a whippet across it :thumbsup:DENISE BAILEY said:milly said:Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.DENISE BAILEY said:Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apartsadieandco said:I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anywayDENISE BAILEY said:I am just going to add my penny's worth too
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.
Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses
Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds
But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds
Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation
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Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love
to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale
some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy
Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day
[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]
Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car
mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...
[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]
Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop
every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,
but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which
Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work
[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]
Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise
she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.
[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]
The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.
on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown
All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings
Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT
Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide
1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)
2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)
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Then my advice to them, look in the Countrymans Weekly in forthcoming events, and show her in the sight hounds class at the lurcher shows:thumbsup: or go to Highgate on Saturday nights, we some times put races on for full greyhounds :thumbsup: problem solved :- "DENISE BAILEY said:
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Denise anybody can buy a dog in good faith,but if the breeding is questioned,then surely it is better to proove the correct breeding of the dog /bitch if this is possible.Then the owner of the said dog could make the descision in an informed honest way.This would then put a stop to any further speculation :thumbsup:
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milly said::thumbsup: because I don't want it racing with Sugar Daddy who's a non-ped. Also I would publically let it be known who bred this dog.weathergirls said:get another pup and either race Florance with the greyhounds or keep her as a pet and breed her to a whippetDENISE BAILEY said:milly said:Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.DENISE BAILEY said:Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apartsadieandco said:I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anywayDENISE BAILEY said:I am just going to add my penny's worth too
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.
Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses
Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds
But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds
Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation
names used at random
Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love
to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale
some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy
Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day
[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]
Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car
mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...
[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]
Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop
every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,
but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which
Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work
[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]
Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise
she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.
[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]
The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.
on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown
All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings
Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT
Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide
1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)
2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)
Geoff think of himself winning again lol
Mike has no problem with publicly letting the breeder be known ...think the registrar know anyway as it was her who told mike in the 1st place
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Mike wants to race none ped thats why he bought her for a family sport...if he wanted a lurcher or greyhound he would of bought one inseadmilly said:
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:lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
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Mike was lead to believe the dog was a none ped greyhound x until he was told 12 months or so down the line she was not
does he question and fight his corner the way rules of date are ,[SIZE=14pt] whippet like in appearance [/SIZE]...i think he would have a good chance of winning ... as far as he was aware he answered the questions on the reg form as correctly as he knew...had he known the outcome he may well of lied and put other breeding down
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milly said::lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
Bit unfair for mike and his kids , he was lead to believe the none ped whippet community where a friendly helpful lot
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Then Mike must sell FlorenceDENISE BAILEY said:
and get a non-ped, because it's cheating to knowingly race a full bred greyhound with non-peds.Is Mike a personal friend of yours?
Think Mike needs to go back to the breeders and ask for his money backmilly said::lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
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Mikes kids and granny would be devastated if mike sold Florance and replaced her with another...she was bought to serve more than one purpose ... family pet..and none ped racer
Please remember this is mike and his family's 1st dog ...
Please remember this is mike and his family's 1st dog ...
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but they love Florance moneys not the objective...but want to race in none pedsrodders said:Think Mike needs to go back to the breeders and ask for his money backmilly said::lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
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But what if Mike really did know that it was a full greyhound, and he was trying to pull the wool over our eye's 8) Us non-ped whippet racers don't condone cheating do we.DENISE BAILEY said:milly said::lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
Bit unfair for mike and his kids , he was lead to believe the none ped whippet community where a friendly helpful lot
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Exactly what I think! Coming from the dog showing background I know for a fact they could sue the pants off the breeder.rodders said:
Mike could potentially get a big pay out here, loss of potential income from stud fees etc. Then I'd flit and buy myself a big kennel set up. 8)
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Mike needs to move house!
He is in private rented accommodation, so moving is just a question of finding the right place to move to.
Mike needs to get the whole family looking for a new house for the family so that:
They can keep Florence as a pet and run her in fun events and either:
Put her to a whippet for a litter of his own or
Ask his lovely local non-ped club to point him in the direction of a promising litter which are definitely non-peds
Not so far fetched - I moved so that my pair of pillocks could have a big garden to run around in, and I see from the boards that I'm not the only one to do this. :thumbsup:
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He is in private rented accommodation, so moving is just a question of finding the right place to move to.
Mike needs to get the whole family looking for a new house for the family so that:
They can keep Florence as a pet and run her in fun events and either:
Put her to a whippet for a litter of his own or
Ask his lovely local non-ped club to point him in the direction of a promising litter which are definitely non-peds
Not so far fetched - I moved so that my pair of pillocks could have a big garden to run around in, and I see from the boards that I'm not the only one to do this. :thumbsup:
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milly said:But what if Mike really did know that it was a full greyhound, and he was trying to pull the wool over our eye's 8) Us non-ped whippet racers don't condone cheating do we.DENISE BAILEY said:milly said::lol: :thumbsup: well putsadieandco said:Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway
Bit unfair for mike and his kids , he was lead to believe the none ped whippet community where a friendly helpful lot
Lets say he did or he didn't know...suppose we will never know...Florance is whippet like in appearance she only weights 53 lb and is a little bit smaller than some no limiter
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