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[Karen-Coral]

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With great difficulty i would say - we have raced greyhounds as well as whippets and we ran small greyhounds 51lber and 54lber aswell as bigger ones too, so many of the no limiters are far bigger than the greyhounds we raced - but at the same time i wouldnt call a no limiter whippet like in appearance i would prob say greyhound like - but thats just my opinion - and whether big or small i'm into racing so i enjoy watching all sizes race.
But on the other hand if in your litter a 30lber was thrown i would say whippet like in appearance so its down to opinion on what one calls whippet like or greyhound like i guess  )and obviously by looking at the pedigree of the dogs,  so to make life simpler i just think we do 'dog' racing nowadays saves all the hassle, but again all these things have been said before so nothing new with this topic  :thumbsup: whether you race small or big it is your own individual choice as to whether you race with whatever dog no one forces you - your own choice no one forces you to put your dog in a race and if your not happy you can always withdraw your dog

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Agree :thumbsup:

If you're not happy-withdraw :thumbsup:

One problem with this though is especially now with the price of fuel and hours travelling is it fair to turn up to an open and feel the need to withdraw-

Pre-entry would sort this out.

You'd hopefully know before you set out who was going to be at the venue.

Karen B. owner of........

(My long legged jack russell-thinks he's whippet-is it discrimination to stop him from running :clown: )

 

[milly]

Top photo greyhound :thumbsup:

Bottom photo whippet x greyhound :thumbsup:

Would you say these 2 are identical? :wacko:

Can anybody spot the difference? 8) :lol:

 

[weathergirls]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds

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NO Geoff the NNWRF committee are all seperate individuals who all I'm happy to say have different veiws and opinions on all aspects of whippet racing. My veiws on scratch racers the NWRF was formed to accommodate dogs that went over the 32lb limit which was the norm some time back, the NWRF set a weight limit of 35lb they also added NO LIMIT scratch racing for any whippet exceeding 35lb this was allways classed as additional racing with 100% payout winner take all there were some big dogs back then also as time went on the NWRF as requested introduced a 40lb scratch class ( both scratch classes still classed as additional racing ) as the years have progressed to todays racing the scratch dogs are no longer seen as 2nd class citizens they form a big part of the non-ped whippet racing and the NNWRF have incuded a 48lb class to even out the field. We hope and expect members to be truthful about breeding when registering a dog to race as non-ped whippet if there is any doubt it will be investigated as far as is possible to accertain the truth

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[Paws123]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds

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First off i never mentioned any names of organizations , i mealy stated the whippet and greyhounds to me were whippet like in appearance

I would personally say that over 50 % off the no limit dogs running now are greyhounds due to how they are breed IE: If you get a 50/50 greyXwhip and line it to a 50/50 greyXwhip you can have pups that are genetically 100% greyhound.

I simply asked if i breed 2 litters no limit x no limit and greyhound x greyhound could any one tell the pups apart ...

 

[milly]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds

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NO Geoff the NNWRF committee are all seperate individuals who all I'm happy to say have different veiws and opinions on all aspects of whippet racing. My veiws on scratch racers the NWRF was formed to accommodate dogs that went over the 32lb limit which was the norm some time back, the NWRF set a weight limit of 35lb they also added NO LIMIT scratch racing for any whippet exceeding 35lb this was allways classed as additional racing with 100% payout winner take all there were some big dogs back then also as time went on the NWRF as requested introduced a 40lb scratch class ( both scratch classes still classed as additional racing ) as the years have progressed to todays racing the scratch dogs are no longer seen as 2nd class citizens they form a big part of the non-ped whippet racing and the NNWRF have incuded a 48lb class to even out the field. We hope and expect members to be truthful about breeding when registering a dog to race as non-ped whippet if there is any doubt it will be investigated as far as is possible to accertain the truth

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Thanks Linda :thumbsup: I knew you would not beat about the bush :thumbsup: and you've put my mind at rest regarding having to race against full bred greyhounds.

My opinion is ANYBODY BREEDING OR PASSING A GREYHOUND OFF AS A NON-PED IS A CHEAT AND A LIAR AND SHOULD BE NAMED AND SHAMED.

IT MAKES ME WONDER TO WHAT EXTENT SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE PREPARED TO GO TO, TO GET A WINNER :rant:

 

[milly]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

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Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.

 

[coatsy]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds

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NO Geoff the NNWRF committee are all seperate individuals who all I'm happy to say have different veiws and opinions on all aspects of whippet racing. My veiws on scratch racers the NWRF was formed to accommodate dogs that went over the 32lb limit which was the norm some time back, the NWRF set a weight limit of 35lb they also added NO LIMIT scratch racing for any whippet exceeding 35lb this was allways classed as additional racing with 100% payout winner take all there were some big dogs back then also as time went on the NWRF as requested introduced a 40lb scratch class ( both scratch classes still classed as additional racing ) as the years have progressed to todays racing the scratch dogs are no longer seen as 2nd class citizens they form a big part of the non-ped whippet racing and the NNWRF have incuded a 48lb class to even out the field. We hope and expect members to be truthful about breeding when registering a dog to race as non-ped whippet if there is any doubt it will be investigated as far as is possible to accertain the truth

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hey it seems to me its not wot you no its who you :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

I'm well happy with Linda's reply regarding the NNWRF :thumbsup: I will now seek the opinion of the BWRA, and the IRG.

Will post their opinion's later :thumbsup:

 

[weathergirls]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too  Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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If I've read your post correctly Denise, will the NNWRF accept from me or anyone else a registration form for a dog that is bred out of Burrpark Time x Brett Lee.

Neither of these parents have any whippet in their ancestory.

I'm asking this question because as a scratch racer I'm deeply concerned with your statement, and is this the veiw of all the NNWRF top table?

Just having my Pennysworth now

Geoff, breeder and racer of genuine whippet x greyhounds

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NO Geoff the NNWRF committee are all seperate individuals who all I'm happy to say have different veiws and opinions on all aspects of whippet racing. My veiws on scratch racers the NWRF was formed to accommodate dogs that went over the 32lb limit which was the norm some time back, the NWRF set a weight limit of 35lb they also added NO LIMIT scratch racing for any whippet exceeding 35lb this was allways classed as additional racing with 100% payout winner take all there were some big dogs back then also as time went on the NWRF as requested introduced a 40lb scratch class ( both scratch classes still classed as additional racing ) as the years have progressed to todays racing the scratch dogs are no longer seen as 2nd class citizens they form a big part of the non-ped whippet racing and the NNWRF have incuded a 48lb class to even out the field. We hope and expect members to be truthful about breeding when registering a dog to race as non-ped whippet if there is any doubt it will be investigated as far as is possible to accertain the truth

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hey it seems to me its not wot you no its who you :thumbsup:

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IF YOU WANT ANY FURTHE REPLIES COATSIE PUT YOUR PROPER NAME NEXT TO YOUR PICTURE

 

[Vicky]

Until such time that non ped breeders start to have full litters DNA tested before they go to their new homes then the BWRA & NNWRF have to accept the breeding the owner says is true (and the owner has to accept the breeding that the breeder says is true).

Like Dee says it would be possible for a breeder to also have an unmarked greyhound litter around the same time as a non ped litter - like it or not we all know there are cheats in this game!!!

 

[Paws123]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

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Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.

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Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation

names used at random

Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love

to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale

some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy

Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day

[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]

Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car

mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...

[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]

Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop

every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,

but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which

Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work

[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]

Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise

she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.

[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]

The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.

on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown

All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings

Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT

Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide

1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)

2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)

 

[Fleesh]

Approach known stud dog owners and bitch owners from the club who are planning on breeding to enquire after pups and aim to get a non-ped pup this time round with a little more research.

Keep Florence, fetch her for run-ups at the club, she will prove an invaluable asset in helping to school and train the clubs young large scratch dogs on the straights and bends, maybe some club members that have open scratch dogs would like Florence to run with their dogs in training at club, give them something to work towards. Maybe even give her a go on the flaps, if she has proved she can keep up with a top non-ped scratch on the straights I should hope she would have sufficient to grade on a track.

Another opportunity also to breed from Florence in the future to a non-ped stud and produce their own litter for Non-Ped racing.

 

[weathergirls]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

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Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.

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Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation

names used at random

Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love

to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale

some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy

Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day

[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]

Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car

mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...

[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]

Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop

every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,

but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which

Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work

[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]

Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise

she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.

[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]

The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.

on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown

All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings

Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT

Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide

1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)

2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)

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get another pup and either race Florance with the greyhounds or keep her as a pet and breed her to a whippet

 

[Paws123]

Sorry should of added

Mikes is only allowed one dog as he is in a private rent , granny is in sheltered accommodation so is allowed not pets...Mike and his family don't believe in betting its against there religion and mike doesn't want to race greyhounds

He bought Florance in to start and travel with his family on a weekend to enjoy this family sport he has heard some much about ..maybe even invest in a caravan ...so they can enjoy short breaks too (weekend events)

He thought he had approached a recommended breeder ..hes new to the sport remember

 

[Karen-Coral]

Top photo greyhound :thumbsup:

Bottom photo whippet x greyhound :thumbsup:

Would you say these 2 are identical? :wacko:

Can anybody spot the difference? 8)   :lol:

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ones got a willy!

 

[Paws123]

Until such time that non ped breeders start to have full litters DNA tested before they go to their new homes then the BWRA & NNWRF have to accept the breeding the owner says is true (and the owner has to accept the breeding that the breeder says is true).Like Dee says it would be possible for a breeder to also have an unmarked greyhound litter around the same time as a non ped litter - like it or not we all know there are cheats in this game!!!

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Pleased you took over as registrar Vicky cause theres no way i would call a fellow racer a lair over dogs breeding with out proof..because someone had complained :thumbsup:

 

[Paws123]

Come on you lot mikes passed himself ...and the kids are all crying

they want to race Florance at the forthcoming champs...the times ticking over to buy a caravan and Granny's bought the local shop out of custard creams

 

[sadieandco]

Poor Mike what a dilemma - but you know what lifes a bitch sometimes and we learn by our mistakes - so unfortunately if his believed No Limiter is really a greyhound i would say sorry but he can't run in the champs and sadly if he can only have the one dog in another 14 years or so when poor Florance has gone to chase bunnies in the sky he will by then have learned alot more and investigate what he is buying much more. As for the person who sold the so called no limiter as such has now been sussed and should be ashamed of himself for leading someone to buy a dog that wasnt what it really was. Florance is loved so much and full of so many custard creams im sure she will still have a very happy and full life anyway

 

[rodders]

I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

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Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.

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Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation

names used at random

Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love

to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale

some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy

Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day

[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]

Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car

mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...

[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]

Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop

every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,

but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which

Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work

[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]

Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise

she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.

[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]

The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.

on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown

All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings

Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT

Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide

1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)

2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)

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Choice 3 Denise.Put a whippet across it :thumbsup:

 

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I am just going to add my penny's worth too 
Until such times that the none ped whippet associations change there rules theres nothing to stop greyhounds been run along side our whippets ( Whippets are to be whippet like in appearance and recognizable as a whippet). I would say greyhounds & whippets are identical in appearance.

Do know quite alot of greyhounds that are less in weight than our no limit crosses

Sorry can not answer the lurcher part of your question as the lurcher organizations rules might be different to none peds

But please bear in mind all 3 breeds are sight hounds

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I also have to say i don't agree that whippets and greyhounds are identical in appearance surely one is one breed and the other another is it not like saying a Shetland Sheepdog is the same breed as a Rough Collie. Not that it matters to me cos i tend to lean more to the smaller whippets than the heavy weights anyway

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Just a thought but how would one identify a no limiter from a small greyhound (no ear marks) say i breed 2 litter greyhound x whippet and 2 small greyhound ...how would you tell the pups apart

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Why would anyone want to do that Denise?I know what you're saying .but ,then they would be cheating because they would have to lie about the breeding.

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Okay heres another question for our k9ers , just want to see how you feel about a possible situation

names used at random

Mike decides after months of going to his local whippet track and watching the none ped racing , he would love

to get involved, he asks about litters been whelped... to his surprise a fellow that lives 100 miles away has a litter for sale

some guy gives mike the breeders phone number and mike hurrys home . and rings to see if he can buy a puppy

Mike gets told the guy has 3 bitches left , mikes to thrilled he arranges to collect the pup the next day

[SIZE=14pt]Next day[/SIZE]

Mike is wife , his 2 kids all drive the 200 miles round trip to collect there new pup , all the way home in the car

mikes kids decide on what to call her after long debate its decided to call her Florance ...

[SIZE=14pt]The next 6 month[/SIZE]

Mike and his family do the best for Florance they buy her toys ,best food ,play with the rag on a bit of string in the garden, even granny how comes over every Sunday for lunch and has feel in love with Florance, little granny even goes to the local shop

every Saturday for custard creams to give to Florance on a Sunday as granny know there Florance favors,

but over the past 6 months Florance has grown very big and boisterous , so mikes been out and bought a shed and a run , which

Florance stays in during the days when him and his wife are at work

[SIZE=14pt]6-12 months[/SIZE]

Mike and his family take Florance to there local track over the 6 month period to school Florance and to there surprise

she is incredibly fast , even though she is a lot bigger than your normal whippet.. there is a few dogs her size to run with , they get told they have a no limit scr dog , so its official Florance is a no limit scr dog ...not what mike really wanted but Florance is there family pet and the whole family love her.

[SIZE=14pt]Next the open racing[/SIZE]

The family and mike decide to give Florance a go at an open race, so off the whole family go even granny in tow with a special pack of custard creams to give Florance after her race.

on arrival mike is told he has to register his dog so he fills in the Reg form breeding ...dame ha he remembers the breeder saying the mother was a greyhound , but for the life of him he cannot remember the sires name , so he puts unknown

All is well he races Florance and she is beat a short head by sugar daddy, lots of people congratulate him and say how well Florance has run ...he is told the champs are only 5 weeks away and if she runs like she has , she must be in with a chance of winning a title ...all the family are well pleased with Florance granny even gives her the full packet of custard creams on the way home .... Then tragedy happens .... Monday night the whole family are say eating there dinner and the phone rings

Its the registrar she tells mike that Florance can not run at any of the none ped racing events as someone has complained saying Florance is a greyhound and after double checking with the breeder he says it was a mix up he didn't realize his greyhound stud dog had caught the greyhound bitch, he honestly thought it was his none ped whippet that had lined the greyhound mother...YEAH RIGHT

Mike and his family's world has been turned up side down now.... what does he do ? you all decide

1 keep Florance as a pet ( but she was bought as race dog for the family to enjoy the sport)

2 Get rid of her and start again with another pup (but they all love Florance and granny threatened never to talk to them again if they part with Florance)

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get another pup and either race Florance with the greyhounds or keep her as a pet and breed her to a whippet

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:thumbsup: because I don't want it racing with Sugar Daddy who's a non-ped. Also I would publically let it be known who bred this dog.