Car Crates

[Janimal]

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Lucky you Alison having a peugoet (sp) 206 estate! Thats what i want!!!!!!
If youve got a small car do you think its safer with dogs in cages, even if the cage is right up to the boot door or with the dogs loose so they can move back abit out of way of boot door ( if that makes sense) :b    I worry that if i have mine in the boot of my car ( a corsa! (w00t) ) that if i get rammed from behind ( or my car for that fact!) that the dogs would get squashed  and the metal from cage would cave in on them    

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I didn't know I wanted one til I saw it :- " I thought I'd get a punto or a picanto

I know what you mean about the small boot thing, my old car (which I loved and miss ) was an old VW polo, I was always worrying about what to do for the best :unsure:

I decided the dogs are more at risk of getting chucked around and hurt if the car got hit, or of escaping through broken windows than of the squashed thing happening :x

I guess its the same as life, you do what you can then hope for the best :sweating:

edited to say, maybe seatbelts harnesses are better for a small number of dogs in a small car?

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My car at the moment is also a VW Polo, Alyson .... but we are going to change it this year for something more practical too........ these cages look just the job and a very good price too.

You are very lucky having that lovely Estate car...... we shall be looking shortly at a new vehicle - its on my wish list. :- "

 

[~elizabeth~]

edited to say, maybe seatbelts harnesses are better for a small number of dogs in a small car?

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That's what we had for Gelert when he was a pup; it was a waste of time for us, though it might suit an older dog that travels well. He was a bad traveller who wouldn't settle so kept twisting it up; also he used to be very sick and we spent the whole journey mopping it up (and the car smelt of it until it went to the breakers :x ). He was much better when we got the cage; it had a nice flat floor so he could stand properly to see where he was going and this helped break him of the sickness.

Having had a car accident with a dog cage (but fortunately no dog) in the car, I think cages that are unsecured in cars are very dangerous; everything flies forward in an accident so a loose cage could give you a serious head injury, and probably the extra momentum would do a lot of damage to the dog inside as well. The fitted ones are sort of kept in place by the wheel arches (and the rear seats if they are up), so can't fly forward in the same way, at least i hope it can't. Mine old cage was firmly tied on by both rear seatbelts, so didn't hit me but everything else in the car flew forward and did.

I think modern cars are designed so that in an impact, the shock is absorbed by the front end of the car, not the rear. My Golf's bonnet was completely crushed (went from looking like a whippet to a pug) but the car in front was only slightly dented. Obviously in a really serious crash you could sustain extensive damage to the rear as well but in medium intensity ones more damage is probably caused by stuff being thrown forwards. Lots of fluffy bedding is probably a good idea to help cushion any blows if you are unlucky enough to have an impact

I deliberately went for a new car that had a high safety rating when getting a new one.

 

[doris]

looks like I'll be squashing my poor dogs into a tiny little hamster cage then :lol:

I know Elizabeth has 2 side opening doors, whats anyone else got?

 

[muttz]

:rant: I put a custom built dog guard behind my back seats and then a Barjo tailgate at the back ( Citroen Berlingo ) but found that when Taig gets excited he can get his head through the gap at the side of the guard and he has eaten 2 rear seatbelts - cost 85 quid each :rant: Has anyone got a job that a whippet can do cos he has to earn some money to pay for the damage !! Really pleased with the Barjo tailgate though. o

 

[mally]

I saw a Lintrans one today at BSFA, it looked very good too. Do they fold away easily though?

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The Lintran booxes don't fold away. They do however provide much better protection for your dogs than a hamster cage. They are crash tested and are very simular priced to the hamster cage.

The Lintran comes with lockable doors as standard.

The solid sides prevent puppies from pulling leads and anything thats near through and chewing them. (i know this happens with hamster cages as Fern my Labrador chewed my £200 tweed shooting Jacket!!!!!!!)

The Lintran has many other optional extras including a bumper cover and accessory trays that fit on top for muzzles etc.

If i knew what i know now i wouldn't have wasted the £230 that i did when i bought my Hamster cage. which i later sold in my local paper.

 

[doris]

oh, I don't know what to do now!

 

[whippynit]

Well, im not in a position to get new car YET so i thought about trying TC s theory and take my back seats out (w00t) and put a dog guard behind the front seats and then put cages in back - think it's quite a good idea - like a 'car cum van ' really !LOL I never really have peeps in back and the car is only few yrs old and low mileage so maybe id be best sticking to it and 'adapting' it! :thumbsup: Next best thing to a estate i guess and still easy to drive as small car!

next thing to worry about for me is same as you Alison ....what type of cage! :blink: :wacko: :wacko:

 

[doris]

next thing to worry about for me is same as you Alison ....what type of cage! :blink:   :wacko:   :wacko:

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hope its easier for you to choose than it is for me then, cos I am rubbish at making decisions :wacko:

I'm still sitting here, no closer to making a choice than I was when I started this thread :rant:

 

[Boxacrazy]

You should also look at the Barnesbrook cages too.

They are also termed Silent travellers or rattle free.

Made by an ex-air craft engineer.

See here http://www.dogcages.net/

I have a guardsman dog cage with divider and rear escape doors.

The only worry I have is if I get a flat tyre - as guardsman are really heavy!!

So I'd need a hand to take the cage out before being able to get the tyre out...

 

[dessie]

I have a guardsman dog cage with divider and rear escape doors.The only worry I have is if I get a flat tyre - as guardsman are really heavy!!

So I'd need a hand to take the cage out before being able to get the tyre out...

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Same with the Barjo, once it was in, it was in, and you would not have been able to take it out without dismantling it, which was a challenge in itself!!!

 

[whippynit]

You should also look at the Barnesbrook cages too.They are also termed Silent travellers or rattle free.

Made by an ex-air craft engineer.

See here http://www.dogcages.net/

I have a guardsman dog cage with divider and rear escape doors.

The only worry I have is if I get a flat tyre - as guardsman are really heavy!!

So I'd need a hand to take the cage out before being able to get the tyre out...

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Dont confuse her anymore!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[TC]

Well, im not in a position to get new car YET   so i thought about trying TC s theory and take my back seats out  (w00t)   and put a dog guard behind the front seats and then put cages in back - think it's quite a good idea - like a 'car cum van ' really !LOL I never really have peeps in back and the car is only few yrs old and low mileage so maybe id be best sticking to it and 'adapting' it! :thumbsup:   Next best thing to a estate i guess and still easy to drive as small car!
next thing to worry about for me is same as you Alison ....what type of cage! :blink:   :wacko:   :wacko:

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Not the best picture in the world to show off the car and crates (but I do so love how teeny SBSD is in it :wub: )

I use 2 x 30" crates with both the doors facing the boot. I still have the entire boot space, and have a dog bed in there that covers a multitude of sins (first aid kits, racing gear, heat reflective sheets, ball throwers etc :- " and with the dog bed on top this brings it up level with the base of the crates.

Should we get hit from behind, they are miles away from the impact, and I can get them out through the side access doors by opening my rear car doors :thumbsup:

I don't have a dog guard as well, it's not necessary as they are in crates

I only ever have one person with me (and that's not very often (w00t) ) so I didn't need the back seat. I now hate going in OH's car as this is a golf, and they go in the boot with a dog guard. I don't think it's as safe, and I am paranoid they might do something naughty :b

I've decided that my next car will probably be an estate, now I just need to decide between an Astra and a Mondeo 8)

 

[doris]

thanks everyone for replies, given me plenty to think about :wacko:

I think I'm going to order the hamster basket :thumbsup: it looks light enough to move and it will be built to fill as much of the boot space as possible

I liked the others but was worried about weight, the lintran boxes look good but for maximum size I'd need a custom one, that would cost around £400! I'm sure its worth it but I ain't that rich :- "

and I'm not ripping the back seats out of my new car not even for a teeny SBSD :wub:

 

[TC]

thanks everyone for replies, given me plenty to think about  :wacko:
I think I'm going to order the hamster basket :thumbsup: it looks light enough to move and it will be built to fill as much of the boot space as possible

I liked the others but was worried about weight, the lintran boxes look good but for maximum size I'd need a custom one, that would cost around £400! I'm sure its worth it but I ain't that rich :- "

and I'm not ripping the back seats out of my new car   not even for a teeny SBSD :wub:

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(w00t) There was no ripping involved, just careful unscrewing :- "

Mind you if I had a shiny new estate car, I wouldn't be removing anything either, just planning on how many extra whips you could fit in 8)

Lets have some pics when you're all fully fitted :thumbsup:

 

[whippynit]

thanks everyone for replies, given me plenty to think about  :wacko:
I think I'm going to order the hamster basket :thumbsup: it looks light enough to move and it will be built to fill as much of the boot space as possible

I liked the others but was worried about weight, the lintran boxes look good but for maximum size I'd need a custom one, that would cost around £400! I'm sure its worth it but I ain't that rich :- "

and I'm not ripping the back seats out of my new car   not even for a teeny SBSD :wub:

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(w00t) There was no ripping involved, just careful unscrewing :- "

Mind you if I had a shiny new estate car, I wouldn't be removing anything either, just planning on how many extra whips you could fit in 8)

Lets have some pics when you're all fully fitted :thumbsup:

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oooo no , i wouldnt expect you to take seats out of new car Alison either! - Its just a 'make best out of what you got' option for me and TC with our corsas :thumbsup: Id much rather have an estate but till then i think its car 'overhaulin' for me! ( or whatever that US car programe is called! like 'pimp my ride' LOL) :cheers: :huggles:

 

[doris]

I did buy a hamster basket cage, it fits very tightly (if it was a cm wider I wouldn't be able to shut the boot! my fault!!) and is so quiet the only way I know its there is cos I can't see Monty leaping around chewing the car's fixtures and fittings :thumbsup: (w00t) :lol:

I'm very pleased :cheers: thanks for help :huggles: