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[Eceni]

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I've been browsing this forum and others and have found a series of sites that list the URLs of pedigree breeders, but not yet any that list the sites of non-pedigree breeders of good, sound whippets (or indeed, any whippets at all)

is there such a thing?

and - that apart, can someone tell me the difference between pedigree and non-pedigree, given that most of the non-pedigree ones I've seen seem to have pretty good 5 generation pedigrees?

confused, but that's nothing new.... :b

E

 

[affieluver]

have a look on this one ww.champdogs.co.uk :thumbsup:

 

[wild whippies]

To be honest, most of the non-ped racers use K9 however there's rules in place that advertising is not allowed.

Non-ped whippets are basically the original whippet, that being that the dogs bred today are still meeting the purpose the breed was created for (i.e. sprint racing)

As a result, they have varying percentages of greyhound in their blood and are varied in size. Recognising this, all organisations within non-ped racing have no restrictions on size or weight as these were never a typified feature in the whippet. Their only current criteria being that the dog is whippet-like in appearance.

Pedigree, KC whippets were adopted by the Kennel Club in 1891, and although the dogs originally registered by the Kennel Club at the time were no more different from the unregistered whippets, restrictions and breed standards within the organisation have typified the breed into a set weight and size range. Over time the 2 breeds have seperated off into what I personally perceive as 2 entirely different breeds.

Probably the best way to get some insight is to subscribe to whippet news magazine, but personally if I was serious about purchasing a puppy for racing I'd spend a lot of time observing. The BWRA are holding their Championships next Sunday (30th) at Highgate Greyhound Stadium, if you can, you should come along. Everyone will make you welcome and you'll get a much better insight seeing and meeting the dogs and owners first hand. :thumbsup:

 

[Eceni]

Probably the best way to get some insight is to subscribe to whippet news magazine, but personally if I was serious about purchasing a puppy for racing I'd spend a lot of time observing. The BWRA are holding their Championships next Sunday (30th) at Highgate Greyhound Stadium, if you can, you should come along. Everyone will make you welcome and you'll get a much better insight seeing and meeting the dogs and owners first hand. :thumbsup:

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Thank you - that's the most comprehensive answer I could have imagined. If I can possibly get to Highgate (Is that London?), I'll do it - if not, I'll look at some closer to home.

I have an elderly lurcher just now, and won't have a pup 'till she's gone, so this is the very earliest stages of research and investigation. Presumably I'll find 'whippet news' on the web?

very many thanks

Eceni

 

[Eceni]

have a look on this one ww.champdogs.co.uk :thumbsup:

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Thank you - are they all pedigree? Can't tell.... all too confusing...

but thank you anyway

E

 

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have a look on this one ww.champdogs.co.uk :thumbsup:

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Thank you - are they all pedigree? Can't tell.... all too confusing...

but thank you anyway

E

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yes i think so im sure someone else will tell you

 

[k4tie-d]

hi, when i first started looking i typed whippets into google and apart from all the usual fact pages on whippets you get quite alot of breeder websites as usualy the sites are called ".............whippets" but i would have to say that the best feedback and response i got was from here k9.

there seems to be a litter or breeding anouncement every month or so if not more. im sure once you decided what it is you want then if you go into the right forum and ask if there are any expected litters they will let you know.

we have just found our first whippet and are so excited that she is coming from a breeder on k9 so we can watch her grow in the first 8weeks of her life.

good luck :luck:

 

[Vicky]

Jacqui has best summed up what could be said to anyone asking "what's non ped".

In reply to you asking about specific kennels/breeders & their websites, i would say half of them are not all they're cracked up to be, nearly all are edited / looked after by the owner of the kennel & tbh they can say what ever they want about their line and what they think will sell pups for them and you'd be none the wiser as a newcomer. I don't believe in advertising litters, any purpose bred litter will be snapped up well before the litter is born if the dam/sire or previous litters are of any worth. I'd advise anyone looking for a whippet pup to experience racing / working or showing before they book a pup, as the parentage will play a major factor in what field your whippet will be best suited.

As far as non ped racing goes, other peoples comments on particular lines and litters that tend to be snapped up straight away speaks volumes but pay great detail to racing results as obviously any good dog will speak for itself. There are non ped clubs all over the uk, find your closest and get to know the members and their dogs, clubs are always very helpful to newcomers and will give you all the help and information you could need and are generally run by people who have been in the breed for a long time.

You do seem to be doing your homework so i'm sure you'll do right by any pup you decide to go for.

Best of luck :luck: and :huggles: for your lurcher.

 

[wild whippies]

Think Vicky's post is spot on, it is most definately a case of buyer beware. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a pet is THE number one priority on a new owners agenda but if you intend on having a hobby where you dedicate time, money and effort into your dog it puts you at an immediate advantage if that dog is suited to that chosen hobby, be it showing, lure coursing, peddy or non-ped racing.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who declares their breeding to be multi-purpose is one you should avoid. As the saying goes, you can be a jack of all trades but specialist at none. :thumbsup:

Your most definately making a smart move by looking into all your options and I think when you have made your decision, any breeder would be humbled by the efforts you have made to ensure the puppy you search for is most suited to you.

Hope your lurcher is enjoying their golden years :huggles:

If your interested in subscribing to Whippet News, you can contact Christine Cornish via email ( christinecornish@hotmail.com )

Highgate Greyhound Stadium is in Goldthorpe in the North East. Link to Map / Directions here> Highgate Greyhound Stadium

Just add your location into the start address box and it'll give you directions.

Alternatively, if you give us an idea of wherabouts you are, I'm sure we can point you to the nearest racing clubs and/or events in your area.

Best wishes in your search :luck:

Jac

 

[k4tie-d]

before i came on here and when we first started looking i put an ad in the paper saying whippet wanted, i got a phone call a few weeks later from a lady who had 3dogs left from her litter, we wanted a bitch and at first she said she didnt have one but went we said we wernt interested in the dogs she then said that she had a bitch which she had wanted to keep to breed from (10week old bitch, first alarm bell) but she may consider selling. she wanted £475 she the went on to say about the show lines that her dogs were from and eventually said if we wanted the bitch we could have her as she had 2 more bitches coming into season in the next few months so she could just keep a bitch to breed from out of them. (second alarm bell breeding-breeding-breeding) when i said that i would have to speak to my partner and call her back she went on to say she wouldnt be in for the next hour as she was taking some dogs for a walk and mentioned numerous breeds (third alarm bell)

after coming on here i had a few pms warning me of puppy farmers in my area and i asked back if the lady who contacted me was this one and it turns out she was. i never called her back but she left a message on my phone 2days later saying that the bitch was avalible and she had dropped the price to £350 as she had another litter arrive and needed the room. or we could wait for one of these pups which would be £475.

the reason i put this up was because i just wanted you to know that there are people out there that dont have there dogs best interest at heart and all they want is your £££££££

i am so glad that we came on here and found some really nice people, and got some really good advice. although im probabily not the best person to be giving advice on this as we arent officaly whippet owners yet. i do think the advice you have been given about going along and meeting people at your local club and asking lots of questions there is the best thing you could do. we will be going to our first race next sunday and i cant wait to meet all the dogs and people.

good luck :luck:

 

[Eceni]

Thanks, all... At the moment (this may be heresy, for which I apologise), my main interests are in agility and bushing - simply because that's what I have done for years with Inca, the lurcher. But having read a fair few whippet web sites in the past few days - almost all of them pedigree - there seem to be a number of people who start out with 'a whippet', not having a clue what they've got, then discover coursing/racing/whatever and realise the dog they've got isn't bred for that, and need to get another one that is...

Given as how I'm a one-dog person, I'd rather like to cut out that bit of the loop - tho' it'd be hard to give up the agility. Interestingly, a post on the whippet forum says that a non-ped x show whippet is the best combination for that, tho' how you'd sort out the multiple different types of show and the even larger number of strains of non-ped is currently beyond me. I'll keep looking.

I'm in postcode area SY7, south shropshire, and would welcome any pointers to whippet things in that area

many thanks

E

 

[wild whippies]

I think your first paragraph is a classic statement and there's many I know of who's done the same - me probably being one of those too. Thankfully the club I race at has operated on time handicaps so it's never really put them at a disadvantage and they've held a reasonable amount of opens where my peds have been able to race at. I consider myself lucky. :thumbsup:

It's interesting how you mention the agility, we had some non-peds who came racing at our club years back who's owner was predominantly involved in agility, they faired well on the track too. Don't know if she's on K9 anymore but her name was Gina and her dogs were Honolulu and The General. JT, another member on here does agility with her lurchers, she may be able to give you some input on how Gina's dogs faired at Agility.

Personally, if I was thinking of a whippet for agility, I'd definately opt for a non-ped. I'd also recommend you observe the dogs and their personalities at the track before you made a choice. Speed for agility, I feel would not be top criteria in your agenda, however personality, excitability, willingness to please and intelligence most definately are. This is the reason I recommend the non-ped as these characteristics seem common within the breed.

I'll get back to you on events and clubs in your area (both ped & non-ped)

 

[posh totty]

great advice given :thumbsup:

good luck in your search :luck: we look forwards to seeing your puppy when you get it and watching the antics

 

[~Annie~]

Hi E

I've answered your pm on The Whippet Forum re. this but would like to point out here that I was advised to get a ped working/show mix not a non-ped/show mix for agility (not racing lol) as I'd hoped was clear in my original post on TWF. Having achieved that so far the results are promising, although still only a 9 mth pup my lad is shaping up well for agility. As I mostly only lurk on K9 :b most folk here probably don't know me or my dog - Finn is litter brother to TC's Badger.

Annie

Thanks, all...  At the moment (this may be heresy, for which I apologise), my main interests are in agility and bushing - simply because that's what I have done for years with Inca, the lurcher.  But having read a fair few whippet web sites in the past few days - almost all of them pedigree - there seem to be a number of people who start out with 'a whippet', not having a clue what they've got, then discover coursing/racing/whatever and realise the dog they've got isn't bred for that, and need to get another one that is... 
Given as how I'm a one-dog person, I'd rather like to cut out that bit of the loop - tho' it'd be hard to give up the agility.  Interestingly, a post on the whippet forum says that a non-ped x show whippet is the best combination for that, tho' how you'd sort out the multiple different types of show and the even larger number of strains of non-ped is currently beyond me. I'll keep looking.

I'm in postcode area SY7, south shropshire, and would welcome any pointers to whippet things in that area

many thanks

E

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