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FREE! Anti Bark Collar | Effective Way to Stop Your Dog Barking

Discussion in 'Products' started by Ted, Dec 13, 2017.

  1. Ted

    Ted New Member Registered

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    Hi Guys,

    Would like to share my new promotion that I run for anti bark collar. I offer completely FREE(inc. postage) bark control collar if you agree to share your feedback with us(1 Feedback).

    100% Free Anti Bark Collar. Regular Price £21.99

    I understand that this offer for some people can seem dodgy, but I can assure you that there is no extra cost or trouble at all as we genuinely need your feedback.

    We introduce a new product to the market and the only thing we ask is to share your feedback with us.

    It is not a scam or any that sort of thing. Please give us a call for further details...
    You can collect it in London or get it delivered for FREE!

    We run this promo for 72h Only and have limited quantity of 50 collars to give away!

    This product is tested and proven to work as we already selling similar models in the UK. It is not 'electroshock collar' as they are illegal to sell in Europe.

    Safe, humane, effective and proven to work!

    Please call us anytime till 22:00pm as we work extra during the launch. +44 7454290177
     
  2. JoanneF

    JoanneF Well-Known Member Registered

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    Perhaps it would be helpful if you explain how it works.
     
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    Josie Administrator Administrator Registered

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    Hello @Ted,

    I agree with @JoanneF - could you give us a description about the collar and how it works? Do you have a website that people can look at also?

    Thanks,
    Josie
     
  4. Ted

    Ted New Member Registered

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    Hi Guys, using sound and vibration is similar to electroshock but without harm to your pet. Electroshock collars are prohibited to sell and use in UK/EU markets, although you always can find few on eBay.
    Our product is approved & certified to sell in the UK. Made from high-quality materials.
    It is proven to work very well as on average from 100 sales we usually receive 1-2 or no returns at all. This anti bark collar is safe and humane to use.

    Anti-bark collar Collar applies progressive sound and vibration stimulation when it is triggered by dog’s barking.
    Bark 1 - Sound Stimulation
    Bark 2 - Increased/Sound
    Bark 3 - Increased Sound/Vibration
    Bark 4-7 Increased Sound/Vibration

    We are selling them on Amazon and eBay so you can easily get more info about it. Unfortunately, I don't want to share product link with the public as our competitors use google as well :) Please give us a call as we have limited time before the weekend. I'll try to find as many people as I can till then and can assure you that it is absolutely £ FREE 1-time deal. *1 Collar per person/family! :) Contact: +44 7454290177 Ted
     
  5. JoanneF

    JoanneF Well-Known Member Registered

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    This makes no sense to me. If we can look on Amazon, eBay and Google for the info we want, of course anyone else can.

    But anyway. No thank you. In my opinion, forcing a behaviour (like not barking) by causing fear of the consequences is no way to 'train' a dog. And let's not fool ourselves, it may not be a shock collar but the reason the dog stops the unwanted behaviour is because he fears/dislikes the consequence of the buzz. I read a good way of putting it hear recently but you can metaphorically tape someone's mouth shut but it won't stop them having something to say (sorry if I misquoted someone). Also, you might address the symptom but the root cause of the barking (let's use anxiety as one example) isn't just still there, it's made worse because the aversion tool has added to it. Then, the dog probably has no idea why he is being buzzed - he may be barking but he is also doing goodness knows how many other things at the same time - listening, watching, sniffing, alerting you to what he perceives as a problem - so he doesn't know it' the barking that you don't want. Then there is the damage to your relationship when he sees you as the person who is failing to protect him from this unpleasant sensation.

    There are far kinder and proven to be more effective ways of teaching your dog not to bark. Look up Kikopup on YouTube.

    Finally, thank you OP for giving me an opportunity to highlight the problems with aversives like this. You might want to look at your marketing strategy - offering this product on a forum for dog lovers is a little like trying to sell pork in Israel and alcohol in the United Arab Emirates!
     
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    Ted New Member Registered

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    Sorry for miss understanding. I share product link and info with those who contacted me by phone.

    I agree with you that dog should not be forced to do so but in most cases, owners don't have enough knowledge to train their pets in the correct way and can cause more damage than actually solve the issue.

    I honestly disagree that this collar is harming your pet. I would say that dog is experiencing temporary discomfort with no pain at all. Yes, nobody would like if our mouths would be shut and we can't express our selfs, but same goes for dog's training, you train them to do things that they don't actually want to do or would learn naturally, humans use psychological pressure to act against their will, does it mean that we harm them?
     
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  7. JoanneF

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    If you think pet owners lack knowledge to train effectively, they certainly shouldnt be using tools like aversives, if they don't understand the damage they can do to a dog - psychologically if not physically. They are given that term for good reason. So I would never, ever counsel a pet owner to use any aversion tool for the reasons I gave in my earlier post. They result in dogs being 'shut down' - cowed into submission because they fear the consequences of anything they do, or retaliating (more of that in a moment). It isn't an exact analogy but abused children are recognised as the the ones who no longer cry, as they know there is no point.

    I have no idea what you mean by this. I work with my dog, to teach him to make good choices. Don't cross the road. Don't chase cats. Bark once to alert me of someone, then he knows it's my job to deal with it. He is a small dog but I have worked with dogs big enough that if they didn't cooperate, I would be physically unable to force them. So we HAVE to have a cooperative relationship. Imagine an Ovcharka or similar, feeling threatened into freeze, flight or fight by discomfort and force (or look up the dancing bears in places like India where they are prodded to 'dance'). That's the reason why reward based training is just effective. The dog makes the right choice; instant mark and reward. He is more likely to repeat that good behaviour because he knows it makes good things happen. Do you work hard for the reward of salary/job satisfaction; or because your boss comes and yells at you if you aren't doing enough? In tests involving 800 people across 17 industries, 50% said they would deliberately work less hard if they were treated badly (Polarth). Dogs are the same. Yes you might get a form of compliance but it is just a veneer over fear, resentment and unhappiness which is going to manifest in far more serious problems if it resurfaces. So you change your pet from a fun loving, engaging, partner to either a shut down shell or a ticking time bomb. You will find a market for aversives in anyone looking for a quick fix, who doesn't understand what they are doing. But fortunately more and more owners are enlightened and educated about canine behaviour and training.
     
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