Holyrood Park Resuts

[ingsay2000]

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Thanks to everyone who came along to help, support and take part in the only Scottish annual lure coursing competion.

Apart from a couple of technical faults with the lure at the start of the day, it was a great success.....and the sun even shone!

The results are as follows.

Main Stake Winner - Winterfellin Rosa Belle (Nell) - Bob and Sarah Layfield

 

Main Stake Runner Up - Badgers Fable of Bruntsfield (Dido) - Liz Third

 

Purse Stake Winner - Winterfellin Lolesha's Lyte (Austin) - Nicky Pettigrew

 

Purse Stake Runner Up - Jack - Nor and Ken (Sorry boys, I dont remember his reg name)

 

Open Sprint Knock-out - Winterfellin Dark knight (Tod) - Robert and Linda Conway

 

Open Sprint Runner Up - Gems Diamond Button (Ruby) - Paul and Katie Donaldson

Best Course of the Day went to Rippley and Smokey

Many thanks to all involved once again for such a great day

 

[maggiemay2]

Great day and fantastic company

Always great to see you guys in fantastic surroundings

xx

 

[eve]

Thank you to Nicky & the Rangers at Holyrood for putting on such a wonderful event. A very huge thank you to Sarah and Bob for all their expertise and hard work.

It was lovely to see you both and the lovely Winterfell gang. Annie has slipped through my fingers for yet another year

Special thanks to Katie for the back up machine and the hours of work controlling the lure so beautifully.

The results were fantastic with a superb range of winners & runners up including one or two lovely surprises.

My apologies for the tempermental behaviour of the luremachine.

A wonderful day and the weather was kind :thumbsup:

 

[Blue wrecking it]

How do people enter for these events? There's no coursing clubs about and the one club or heard of has a limited number of people allowed. So where do the new people come from?

This event was a closed entry. What's the point in that? I've lure coursed myself with other for a while but no clubs willing to take new members. Seems to me s pointless event if you only allow certain dogs and no qualifiers for people like myself

 

[eve]

I lurecourse my own whippets for fun and have my own machine & pullies.

The only offical racing / lurecoursing I know of is held at inch farm just across the Kincardine bridge.

The event at Holyrood park was very small with only 16 experienced dogs in the stake.

It was a demonstration of 'The sport of Queens' , not an official BRWA or NPWRA event.

I only invite a few close friends who have whippets from time to time if I am running my own dogs.

If lots of people came along, it would stop being fun. This happened in the past so now only friends are invited.

I lurecourse my whippets for fun not competition.

Due to the risk of injury and the cost of insurance there are very few lurecoursing clubs in the North.

Best thing to do is to buy your own machine & pulllies like I did and perhaps set your own club.

You may find that a few like-minded friends would be prepared to share the cost.

I can recommend Rod Gaunt in Huddersfield 07882 256 542

A machine from him costs about £250 including delivery and the pullies are about £20 each on top of that.

Hope this helps

Regards

Eve

 

[Blue wrecking it]

I lurecourse my own whippets for fun and have my own machine & pullies.
The only offical racing / lurecoursing I know of is held at inch farm just across the Kincardine bridge.

The event at Holyrood park was very small with only 16 experienced dogs in the stake.

It was a demonstration of 'The sport of Queens' , not an official BRWA or NPWRA event.

I only invite a few close friends who have whippets from time to time if I am running my own dogs.

If lots of people came along, it would stop being fun. This happened in the past so now only friends are invited.

I lurecourse my whippets for fun not competition.

Due to the risk of injury and the cost of insurance there are very few lurecoursing clubs in the North.

Best thing to do is to buy your own machine & pulllies like I did and perhaps set your own club.

You may find that a few like-minded friends would be prepared to share the cost.

I can recommend Rod Gaunt in Huddersfield 07882 256 542

A machine from him costs about £250 including delivery and the pullies are about £20 each on top of that.

Hope this helps

Regards

Eve

I have my own machine, pullies and land to run it. I'm stating an observation that although this event may well be for 'experienced dogs'- what about dogs that are good to run, experienced and good at it but will

Never have the chance to run in such a 'competition' just because the experience they have had isn't from a registered club.

My whippet is great at coursing and working too. But after searching hard for some sort of a challenge I have always drew a blank. The coursing at rumbling bridge is closed and in reference to the coursing at inch farm that's is closed to. I not long got off the phone to the lady that runs whippet racing and she informed me that she will try to set up a club soon enough but no plans as of yet. I've heard there's a club in Musselburgh but no 'outsiders' are allowed which I find ridiculous.

My point is, there are many people out there that have Working dogs and over the summer we lure course to keep our dogs fit. There is no official club that we can go to, to run our dogs on another level or against different dogs. We only do this for fun too but by keeping it to a 'friends only' then your shutting a lot of genuine people out.

I don't like the sound of 'official coursing clubs' with their stuck up attitude it seems and were better then you frame of mind. Why not have it for everybody and keep it open.

 

[eve]

Musselburgh is not a club, just me.

I do not have the time or inclination to set up a 'club' or arrange lurecoursing for other people.

I lurecourse my 3 whippets for my enjoyment and theirs.

As I said in my last post:

I only invite a few close friends who have whippets from time to time if I am running my own dogs.

If lots of people came along, it would stop being fun. This happened in the past so now only a few friends are invited.

So yes, it is my friends only and even they get invited in rotation to keep the numbers down to 10 dogs.

I suggest that if you have your own equiptment and land, that you set up your own club.

I am sure that you would find lots of people who would like to come and some like minded people that would help you.

 

[ingsay2000]

How do people enter for these events? There's no coursing clubs about and the one club or heard of has a limited number of people allowed. So where do the new people come from?
This event was a closed entry. What's the point in that? I've lure coursed myself with other for a while but no clubs willing to take new members. Seems to me s pointless event if you only allow certain dogs and no qualifiers for people like myself

The event in Holyrood Park was organised and run entirely by the ranger service, not a coursing or racing club.

The lure coursing was first and foremost a demonstration of the 'Sport of Queens'. It has been run annually over the last 4 years and is part of a larger event called 'Royal Pursuits'. It is designed to show visitors the various activities that traditionally took place in the royal hunting ground.

As there appear to be no coursing clubs within Central Scotland, the competitors details are kept on file, by the rangers, from previous years.

Over 40 KC whippet owners from around the country are contacted regarding the event and entries are taken on a 'first come first served' basis.

I appreciate that there a many more whippet owners that would like to take part but safety and 'fun' is the main priority.

Spaces are limited to a 16 dog main stake and 12 dog knock-out stake. As it is a show case/family event it is important that all dogs taking part run without issue of interference or aggression. Therefore opening the competition to untried or unknown dogs at this particular public event is too much of a risk.

I hope I have answered your questions.

Please let me know if you start up a club or perhaps even organise a competition. I'd love to bring my fat slugs along :thumbsup:

 

[Blue wrecking it]

You have answered my initial question.

I still do not understand how an 'untried' dog is to get 'tested' to have a shot.

If there is no clubs set up officially then how do the 'tested' dogs get 'tested' officially in the 12 months between these events? Is it just taken that the dog has not changed since last year or am I missing something?

40 running dogs on file is an awful lot when there is no official club to run with.

So somebody give me details of where I can get my dog tested, her name on file and I'll see you next year? Thought not.

:wacko:

And why is it just for whippets?

Pedigree whippets?

Why not lurchers?

 

[Liz Third]

Where do our dogs get their experience and train for any lure coursing event , you ask. The answer is "with difficulty". I have trained mine to follow a lure at race meetings with a pedigree whippet racing club, which involves a 70 mile round trip on a Sunday to perhaps get a couple of runs on the straight. We no longer have a racing club running bends racing. Then when they are following the lure I have taken them to a BSFA meeting, around 700 mile round trip. These meetings are professionally run and judged and the dogs are guaranteed two runs, and are great fun to watch and take part in. all pedigree sighthounds can enter.

I did take them to Rumbling Bridge also but sadly that is no longer. Many of us in Scotland would be delighted if someone could take on to find a piece of ground and to organise some lure coursing in Central Scotland, there are several of us who would support such a venture. So please everyone try to find a good safe field that would be suitable. It has to accessible for cars, well fenced, not liable to flooding, not necessarily flat but large enough to lay out a course of at least 400yards. Perfection would also have somewhere secure for storing equipment.

 

[Liz Third]

You ask why not non pedigree whippets and lurchers? Because there are racing clubs and events for these. And people who run their pedigree whippets do not like to compete with non pedigrees who may well be twice their weight, causing more risk of damage and injury.

 

[masta]

You have answered my initial question.
I still do not understand how an 'untried' dog is to get 'tested' to have a shot.

If there is no clubs set up officially then how do the 'tested' dogs get 'tested' officially in the 12 months between these events? Is it just taken that the dog has not changed since last year or am I missing something?

40 running dogs on file is an awful lot when there is no official club to run with.

So somebody give me details of where I can get my dog tested, her name on file and I'll see you next year? Thought not.

:wacko:

And why is it just for whippets?

Pedigree whippets?

Why not lurchers?

"So somebody give me details of where I can get my dog tested, her name on file and I'll see you next year? Thought not".

Web site below will give you details good luck :thumbsup:

http://www.lurecoursing.org.uk/

 

[Blue wrecking it]

Thankyou for that link masta.

Liz... You have failed to grasp what I am saying. You can run your dogs on the lure 100 times in a Neighbouring field but it still has not been tested 'officially'. My dogs have ran the lure well over 1000 times and they don't count as qualified. So you's say.

 

[ingsay2000]

If the issue relates to the event held at Holyrood, then I suggest you contact the ranger service (hs.rangers@scotland.gsi.gov.uk)

It is the ranger service alone who are responsible for the planning, organising and running of this event.

It is not the decision of the competitors, members of this forum or whippet owners around Scotland.

If the issue is that you would like to run your dog against others, then as suggested, contact the BSFA.

There is clearly no coursing clubs in Scotland at present.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[k4tie-d]

Just came on to say, Thank you ladies and gents for a lovely day! cant believe it went by so quickly!!

some really good runs, lovely sunshine, lovely people cant ask for more! :cheers: :cheers:

 

[Blue wrecking it]

i have rang the rangers at holyrood and asked how i get my dog tested.

their answer is they dont have a clue. they have phone numbers of runners from previous years and just invite them back. SO.... it seems loke there is no way of getting the dogs a run in a competition. seems a bit unfair. how can people join in and emjoy watching the dogs run? its not so much of an issue for me, ive got my own gear and working them does me fine but other people who dont have contacts orthe resources cant enjoy the sport.

unfair to say the least and doors shut all over the place.

 

[eve]

Scottish Thistle Pedigree Whippet Racing Club is your best bet for competitions. I believe that they offer competitions for all types of dogs as well as whippets. They fave a facebook page and The website is at www.stpwrc.org

They also have a page on this forum.

 

[Blue wrecking it]

The stpwrc is a straight racing club (which i am a member of although i dont go) and not a lure COURSING club. Therefore my dog or anybody elses dog cant be tested at lure coursing there.

I have tried everywhere to get qualified for the event and the results are as follows:

No official lure coursing club in scotland.

No official lure coursing testing/trailling in scotland.

No way of beginners starting the sport.

 

[ingsay2000]

unfair to say the least and doors shut all over the place.

I think its fair to say that there are unfortunately no doors to open (in Scotland) in the first place.

As I mentioned previously, if you have the equipment and a safe area to run then why not invite people along?

The members of this forum have tried their best to be helpful and provide you with information. They cannot however give you information on something that does not exist at present.

Why dont you give it a go? Im sure you would receive a lot of support :thumbsup:

 

[Blue wrecking it]

I had my lure out every weekend over the summer and around 10/15 friends and associates along for a few hours and a good laugh. We had the turns and even had various fun things to keep the dogs thinking. We had the lure hidden under hay bales so the dogs were surprised. We even done it one night and 'lamped the lure' to prepare for the upcoming season. We had labs running against greyhounds, lurchers against terriers and even a great dane against a collie. It was all great fun, organised by myself and free of charge to everybody.

It was great fun and was benificial to all. We all kept in contact and get out together ferreting/lamping.

It was cut short as the lure machine broke in august and wasnt sent away to be fixed as the season started in september. It was sent away last week and is due back on monday.

Please dont get what i am saying mixed up......

My whole point is:

If there is an event organised to run dogs together then how do i get my dogs on the list?

The answer was that they had to be tested. So tell me where they can get tested and i will take them?

The answer to that was, there is nowhere to get them tested.

So all these dogs on yhe list are there from a few years back and are just invited back, which is fine BUT where do new people start?

You cant tell me the dogs that run in these lure coursing events IN SCOTLAND are trialled and tested. Maybe at straight/bend racing but not at lure coursing.

Running your dogs together doesnt count unless it is with an official club and an official body.

Or who you know still doesnt count OFFICIALLY.

If the straight racing counts as trialling for the coursing then please let me know and i will go down to my nearest club and get my dogs trialled officially.

To me it seems fair to say that its who you know and not what you know that counts.

Or maybe the pedigree of my whippet isnt good enough for some?