Hypothetical Question

[wild whippies]

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Just wondering what people would choose and why?

Obviously votes are anonymous so giving your reasons is entirely up to you if you wsh to share.

 

[dave murray]

sell or give to someone who wants to race as i have found it very hard to get a pup from decent dogs until i got in touch with fleesh ,when you have been out the game for a while like myself its very hard to get the right pups

 

[Fleesh]

I have sold to a working home and a pet home as well as newcomer to racing homes, have to say though, never charged one person more than another regardless of what activity they choose to do with the pup.

 

[JOHNG]

the most important thing to me is a good racing home, my last litter have got brilliant homes even the one that as'nt raced. :thumbsup:

also i would like to think l was given first refusal of any pup i breed, back if for some reason anybody buying from me wanted to part with it.

 

[wild whippies]

I have sold to a working home and a pet home as well as newcomer to racing homes, have to say though, never charged one person more than another regardless of what activity they choose to do with the pup.

It would probably help if I explained but didn't want to sway people's voting.

Basically I came out with the statement that us as racers would never be interested in the likes of KC registration because I felt the organisation has nothing to offer our breed whatsoever. A good response in return was that financial gain could be great from the sales of these registered dogs. Whilst the responder had a good argument, I personally feel it just isn't a priority to racers and that securing good racing homes, regardless of money is a breeder's main priority.

Can anyone put forward a good reason or benefit for KC registration?

 

[Fleesh]

Could you imagine trying to set a breed standard :teehee:

 

[wild whippies]

Could you imagine trying to set a breed standard :teehee:

Kerry's ears would be flung!

So would Dobbers tail!

I like the individuality of them, makes every dog seem like, well an individual.

 

[Fleesh]

Could you imagine trying to set a breed standard :teehee:

Kerry's ears would be flung!

So would Dobbers tail!

I like the individuality of them, makes every dog seem like, well an individual.

Couldn't we just make it a handslip to the Rosette table, first there wins LOL

 

[marielou]

I agree with you Jacs, I think most people are more interested in their dogs going to good racing homes. I think that is not just because people like to see their pups racing but because non peds is a small world and they will see their pups on a fairly regular basis.

I think its great that basically there is no money in breeding non peds which would disappear with kc registration. Non peds are diverse in appearance but they sure can run and I love'um :thumbsup:

 

[wild whippies]

Could you imagine trying to set a breed standard :teehee:

Kerry's ears would be flung!

So would Dobbers tail!

I like the individuality of them, makes every dog seem like, well an individual.

Couldn't we just make it a handslip to the Rosette table, first there wins LOL

As in a race!!? (w00t) (w00t) (w00t)

 

[mutley]

i would rather give our pups to the right homes rather than sell at any price to a bad one once bitten and all that :wacko: ive sold pups to new comers to give them a chance and worked out well :thumbsup:

 

[deeva1]

:thumbsup: TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, I HAVE NEVER MADE ANYTHING OUT OF ANY OF MY LITTERS'! MY PRIORITY IS ALWAYS TO SEE THEM RACING AND HOPEFULLY DOING WELL FOR THEIR OWNERS. I DO, HOWEVER, LIKE TO HAVE FIRST REFUSAL IF ANY OF THEM ARE UP FOR A NEW HOME, AS I LIKE TO KNOW WHO IS HAVING THEM AND THAT THEY WILL BE WELL CARED FOR. THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT JUST ONCE I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE COST OF THE VETS' BILL, BUT ONE CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING! (w00t) :wub:

 

[whippetsrus]

The cost of a pup should be the same irrespective of whether the pup is going to a pet home or a show/working or racing home. The intentions of the new owner does not make the pup more valuable. If I was in that position, irrespective of breed, my main objective would be to get the right home for the dog. It is important to me that the dog be loved and well cared for, for the entire length of that pup's life. Equally I would not give a pup away. Not for any other reason than if a person cannot afford to purchase a pup I would be questioning whether the pup would be cared for properly and have it's needs met.

On a slightly different issue, I also question the number of pups being born at present (all breeds). We are entering a period of huge cutbacks with many people losing employment, having pay freezes and the general cost of living going sky high. How many of these pups are going to end up in, already struggling, rescues or worse still thrown out on the street. Even used as breeding machines for easy cash.

I'll go and seek cover :blink:

 

[tinabow]

a good home weather racing or pet would be most important to me

good breeding does,t always work out that the pup will be a racer

that is why i would want a loving home

thought i would reply as i don.t breed

 

[wild whippies]

The cost of a pup should be the same irrespective of whether the pup is going to a pet home or a show/working or racing home. The intentions of the new owner does not make the pup more valuable. If I was in that position, irrespective of breed, my main objective would be to get the right home for the dog. It is important to me that the dog be loved and well cared for, for the entire length of that pup's life. Equally I would not give a pup away. Not for any other reason than if a person cannot afford to purchase a pup I would be questioning whether the pup would be cared for properly and have it's needs met.
On a slightly different issue, I also question the number of pups being born at present (all breeds). We are entering a period of huge cutbacks with many people losing employment, having pay freezes and the general cost of living going sky high. How many of these pups are going to end up in, already struggling, rescues or worse still thrown out on the street. Even used as breeding machines for easy cash.

I'll go and seek cover :blink:

The purpose of the poll was to ascertain if racers would prioritize money over a racing home. This was in relation ( as has already been posted) to the reasonable suggestion from a member elsewhere on k9 that racers of non-peds would be tempted by kc registration in order to make a financial gain. Which is specifically why the quality of either the pet or race home was not divulged as it could sway the purpose of the poll.

Incidently I have given pups away to homes both peds and non peds. All dogs and owners still in contact with me, all receive the best in veterinary care, specialist veterinary care, and the best of everything their owners can give them. If I had the slightest inclining of doubt, they'd of never been gifted in the first place and stayed put with us. If any of them fell into dire financial problems, they would get assistance from us. That's exactly how strongly we take our responsibility as breeders and I know we are not on our own here as I have fellow racing friends who I know damn well would do the same or already have done so.

 

[fallenangel]

I would rather give a dog away to a good race home after that aslong as the homes good i dont care moneys very low on my list of things that are importnat for a pup

 

[Nellie]

OK I am the other poster WW is refering to :lol: I mentioned as an example jack russells from my younger days these were working dogs working to ground badgers were still legal quarry as was the otter and the fox,round the farm yard superb ratters and perfect introduction for youngsters getting into hunting, now there was nt a cat in hells chance of these ever being recognised by the KC as you would have a job of finding 2 that looked alike :thumbsup: they were that diverse in makeup. Little did we know that within 20 short years they were to be recognised as the Parson Russell Terrier and what happens well known hunt terrier men that lived and breathed these same terriers(that incidently were bred and placed into working homes without exception to be tested at what they were bred for) were standing in the showrings with their dogs, the reason the more they won the more they could charge for pups, these very same men that were at the top of their game wrote books on these working terriers, sad but when money comes into they were making far more money from being shown in the ring than doing what their past line was bred for and did best

 

[kayoneill]

I have sold to a working home and a pet home as well as newcomer to racing homes, have to say though, never charged one person more than another regardless of what activity they choose to do with the pup.

It would probably help if I explained but didn't want to sway people's voting.

Basically I came out with the statement that us as racers would never be interested in the likes of KC registration because I felt the organisation has nothing to offer our breed whatsoever. A good response in return was that financial gain could be great from the sales of these registered dogs. Whilst the responder had a good argument, I personally feel it just isn't a priority to racers and that securing good racing homes, regardless of money is a breeder's main priority.

Can anyone put forward a good reason or benefit for KC registration?

I think this is a fascinating subject to debate. I honestly think KC registration would be fraught with problems and bureaucracy, that would give no benefit. If you look at the problems with many pedigree breeds it's very worrying. The non ped racing fraternity, is exactly that from my observations. A group of folk passionate about racing their dogs, steeped in tradition, but striving to keep things going for future generations. All seem genuinely eager to help each other out, and to ensure the well being of all dogs they've bred. I'm sure there are exceptions to my impression. But with all human endeavours it's about being conscientious and doing the right thing based on individual judgement, and inevitably shaped by experience. We all learn from mistakes, like it, or not . I think it's important to have records of a dogs, blood lines, and heritage,for the history and science of the sport, but that can be done without the KC , as we all know. The dogs welfare is indeed paramount , over any financial incentive, to the majority of genuine dog lovers. I'm a very lucky recipient of 2 non peds, who are universally admired in the local community for looking like dogs of old, and performing like rockets in the fields. For which I am eternally in debt to Fleesh and her mum for their generosity , in letting me have them .

 

[DavidH]

sometimes i wonder if race homes are the best? not always but some owners if they dont make open class pass them on to pet homes.differant people have differant ways some pass on if they only keep top class dogs, some keep them.

so is a pet home the best as 95% stay with there owners as family pets. :thumbsup:

i think a loving home wether race or pet is what you want for you pups IMO only,dont want to upset folks as it doesnt take much on here (w00t)

would rather give a pup to a first class home,than take money to a iffy one.

 

[hellbound]

sometimes i wonder if race homes are the best? not always but some owners if they dont make open class pass them on to pet homes.differant people have differant ways some pass on if they only keep top class dogs, some keep them.
so is a pet home the best as 95% stay with there owners as family pets. :thumbsup:

i think a loving home wether race or pet is what you want for you pups IMO only,dont want to upset folks as it doesnt take much on here (w00t)

would rather give a pup to a first class home,than take money to a iffy one.

i have got my dogs very good homes and sky as 1 of the best lol