Left Too Long?

[kirsty]

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My neighbour has just bought a jack russell puppy 6 wks old had it a fortnight so now he is 8wks old. She goes to work around 8am then comes home around 12 ish for 15mins then he is left alone again until 4-4.30ish. I think it is a shame for the poor wee might it is a terribly long day for such a baby to be left surely. Or is it just me?

 

[dessie]

Far too long, especially on his own.

 

[chelynnah]

I'm more concerned with the age of the pup than the amount of time. In an ideal world we'd be home all day with our dogs, but people do have to earn a living. I think she's being pretty responsible to come home and make sure it gets a pee break in the middle of the day - from your description it's never alone for more than 4 hours at a shot - even if the break is only 15 mintues. At least it's getting a chance to relieve itself. I'd rather see that than see someone who left at 8am and didn't return till 4:30.

I personally would think that the pup should not have left it's mum so young, and that she'd taken a few weeks off till it was a bit older before leaving it.

Like I said it's not ideal, but depending on what kind of quality the rest of her time is with him I don't personally have a huge problem with it

Wendy (flame suit at the ready)

 

[masta]

My neighbour has just bought a jack russell puppy 6 wks old had it a fortnight so now he is 8wks old.  She goes to work around 8am then comes home around 12 ish for 15mins then he is left alone again until 4-4.30ish.  I think it is a shame for the poor wee might it is a terribly long day for such a baby to be left surely.  Or is it just me?

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why dont you offer to bob in and check its ok?

 

[shelley]

Alot of puppies are left at home so their owners can go to work and it doesn't do them any harm as you said the pup is being checked everyday at lunch time and it is better for the pup to be left alone now so that it can be used to his owner being out of the house all day and as long as it has comfort and food/water left it should be just fine.

 

[lurcherman]

it aint right but wot do u want her to do? maybe jack the job in?

theres more idioys out there owning dogs than she i bet :thumbsup:

 

[kris]

6 weeks is far too young to leve the nest,what chance of socialisation does this pup have?none at all.its cooped up in the house all day and hasnt had the chance to learn social skills from its litter mates and mother.i predict problems ahead for this pup when it goes out into the big wide world and meets other dogs.its a pity she didnt get two out of the same litter then theyd be company for one another. me personally i think its sad for any dog to be left alone all day.dogs are social, gregarious animals and arent suited to be left alone for hours on end.when i did breed pups id never sell to people out at work all day as i didnt think it was fair to the dog.and yes i know theres lots of folk who are out at work all day and their dogs have a fabulous life,just dont want any of my pups having to live like this.(ill don my flame suit now too!) :- "

 

[mazza]

6 weeks is far too young to leve the nest,what chance of socialisation does this pup have?none at all.its cooped up in the house all day and hasnt had the chance to learn social skills from its litter mates and mother.i predict problems ahead for this pup when it goes out into the big wide world and meets other dogs.its a pity she didnt get two out of the same litter then theyd be company for one another. me personally i think its sad for any dog to be left alone all day.dogs are social, gregarious animals and arent suited to be left alone for hours on end.when i did breed pups id never sell to people out at work all day as i didnt think it was fair to the dog.and yes i know theres lots of folk who are out at work all day and their dogs have a fabulous life,just dont want any of my pups having to live like this.(ill don my flame suit now too!) :- "

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Agree with all you've said Kris.

How would a young pup learn anything from being left for hours on end to its own devices.

Not a good start in life for any young dog. As it gets bigger and even more bored and frustrated it will obviously chew at anything to relieve the stress and boredom. Then turns into a "naughty problem dog" and too much for the owners usually resulting in rehoming. The owners obviously don't have the time or commitment for a dog. Why get a dog in these circumstances.

 

[kirsty]

I do understand she has to work, don't we all unfortunately! I am lucky I can work from home or take Megan with me, if I had to change my job I would be really stuck as what to do with Megan, as I think she would be distressed to be left all day even though there are four cats to keep her company. But I will have to cross that bridge if I ever come to it.

It's just that when she showed me him he was so small the size of my hand bless his little paws, he looked so young and small I guess that was probably what made me wonder. I would offer to go in as I hear him whimpering away when I go out to go in the car, but she is the kind of person that if she is in a good mood she will say hi and other times she will purposely ignore you and look the other way :- " She is going on holiday in a week so apparantly the breeder is taking him back for a fortnight. I would have thought it would have been better to ask the breeder to keep him until after she came back as he would have been that bit older as well.

 

[dessie]

I do understand she has to work, don't we all unfortunately! I am lucky I can work from home or take Megan with me, if I had to change my job I would be really stuck as what to do with Megan, as I think she would be distressed to be left all day even though there are four cats to keep her company.  But I will have to cross that bridge if I ever come to it.It's just that when she showed me him he was so small the size of my hand bless his little paws, he looked so young and small I guess that was probably what made me wonder.  I would offer to go in as I hear him whimpering away when I go out to go in the car, but she is the kind of person that if she is in a good mood she will say hi and other times she will purposely ignore you and look the other way :- "  She is going on holiday in a week so apparantly the breeder is taking him back for a fortnight.  I would have thought it would have been better to ask the breeder to keep him until after she came back as he would have been that bit older as well.

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Oh don't, this is beginning to really upset me

 

[mazza]

I'd feel concerned about this pup too Kirsty. It must be awful for you knowing this little mite is spending each day all alone, bored and unhappy.

Find it hard to believe that some replies are to condone the way this pup is being treated. How can leaving a pup all day on its own with just a 15 min pee break ever be acceptable.

As I said before , dogs need company, and committment, if a person cannot offer these they should not buy a dog in the first instance.

I think it's unfortunate for you to have to be a neighbour here. All you can do is offer to spend some of your own time with the pup, but as you say the owner doesn't seem very friendly person and a bit odd, sometimes friendly and another time not even acknowledging you.Not an easy person to offer your help to. She would probably only see your offer as interferring.

 

[kris]

here,here!well said! :thumbsup: pity more folk didnt just go out and buy a dog but asked themselves what THEY could offer a dog.why on earth did she buy the dog when she was going on holiday in a few weeks?why didnt she wait till she came back from her hols and then go to pick him up?i feel so sorry for this little mite,hes being shuttled back to the breeder now and then hell be sent back to his owner. hell probably start to wreck the house same as mazza said and then hell be looking for a new home.

 

[jue332]

Why get a very young pup when she works all day and then go on holiday ? !

Sounds like not a lot of thought went in to getting this little one :angry: some people :rant: :rant:

 

[Janimal]

Poor pup a little bit of planning when you get a new puppy goes a long way ......definitely dont agree with her going out to work and leaving it that long either.

Im sure an older dog may cope - with a gradual change - but this poor puppy has just left his mum, breeder and litter mates and is being left alone too. :rant:

If she knew she had to work long hours - she should have got a cat instead, in my opinion.

 

[*Caz*]

Poor pup   a little bit of planning when you get a new puppy goes a long way ......definitely  dont agree with her going out to work and leaving it that long either.
Im sure an older dog may cope - with a gradual change - but this poor puppy has just left his mum, breeder and litter mates and is being left alone too. :rant:

If she knew she had to work long hours - she should have got a cat instead, in my opinion.

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Agree with all you say Janis ) POOR BABY can see problems arising-and even more so with a jack russell,they want to be on the go 24/7 :teehee: little live wires (w00t)

 

[Millie]

All this reminds me of a bloke who came into the store this week.

He comes to the checkout with this tiny staffy pup in his arms. The first thing I notice is the nails, they were so long there was no way the pup could stand on his feet properly ! I mention this to the bloke and his reply was "its ok he'll be seeing the vet in a couple of weeks and I get them cut them :rant: " So I show him how to trim them with human clippers, not expecting him to take a blind bit of notice.

He's back the next day and yes thankfully, he had cut the nail but now he's saying the pup won't eat and is just sleeping all the time. I ask him how old the pup is ....... 6weeks........ I say to him at that age it should still be with its mum and litter mates, his answer "its ok he's not been with his mum for 2 weeks :rant:

What is the world coming too!

Hopefully this poor little mite will be ok. The bloke seems to be very concerned for him and he has gone homed armed with all the info I could give him.

 

[whippetsrus]

At least she is making an effort to visit during the day. However, what about the breeder - did they not show any concern when they sold the dog? Surely there is some responsibility there.

 

[Roedeane]

At least she is making an effort to visit during the day.  However, what about the breeder - did they not show any concern when they sold the dog?  Surely there is some responsibility there.

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:rant: My thoughts exactly - I get concerned even with part-time workers, as there's always the 'popping to the shops' after work which can mean a pup is left far too long. If someone says they work 5 hours a day, that could be 7 hours with travel etc. Good on her for letting the pup out at dinner, but what on earth can the pup 'learn or benefit from' in 15 minutes attention? :rant:

 

[kris]

  All this reminds me of a bloke who came into the store this week.
He comes to the checkout with this tiny staffy pup in his arms. The first thing I notice is the nails, they were so long there was no way the pup could stand on his feet properly ! I mention this to the bloke and his reply was "its ok he'll be seeing the vet in a couple of weeks and I get them cut them  :rant: " So I show him how to trim them with human clippers, not expecting him to take a blind bit of notice.

He's back the next day and yes thankfully, he had cut the nail but now he's saying the pup won't eat and is just sleeping all the time. I ask him how old the pup is ....... 6weeks........ I say to him at that age it should still be with its mum and litter mates, his answer "its ok he's not been with his mum for 2 weeks    :rant:

What is the world coming too!

Hopefully this poor little mite will be ok. The bloke seems to be very concerned for him and he has gone homed armed with all the info I could give him.

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good on you for spotting this and helping him out. :thumbsup: sounds like the guy genuinely wants to do the right thing by his puppy and theres ways of helping without being seen as a busybody or interfering.sounds to me like you got it right!well done! :cheers:

 

[whippetsrus]

I do think there has to be some realism here. Whilst I would not wish any dog to suffer in any circumstances, we all have to earn our living. How many of us can stay with our pets 24/7?

I cannot imagine going on holiday without my boys but this is not the case for every animal. The first dog I had was a cocker spaniel. If I had tried to take him on holiday with us we would never have arrived because of the endless sickness stops. For him the kinder thing was to put him in kennels. I found one that offered country walks and really was a home from home. I think this was the less cruel option.

I would hope that everybody makes sure that they can provide adequately before buying a pet but at the end of the day I do think the breeder as always the option to say no.