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[BeeJay]

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>I believe Cockeymoor Flyer was banned because he was a black dog from a brindle and a fawn parent, which you can't get.

From what I understand ;- what's also 'interesting' about this is that the supposed 'real' sire was a fawn so the dam must have been wrong too.

All that aside he still was never de-registered by the KC so was still a registered pure bred whippet.

 

[Judy]

Unless the "real" sire wasn't the real sire either

 

[BeeJay]

Unless the "real" sire wasn't the real sire either 

:lol:

 

[Mark Roberts]

I believe Cockeymoor Flyer was banned because he was a black dog from a brindle and a fawn parent, which you can't get.

umm I was always told theres no such word as can't? :- "

 

[tlewis]

I believe Cockeymoor Flyer was banned because he was a black dog from a brindle and a fawn parent, which you can't get.

I'm no colour expert, but isn't it possible for a dog that actually looks black can infact be geneticaal brindle?

I do know that the three Besaps dogs exported to Canada were blacks as far as I could tell.

 

[wild whippies]

I'm no expert either but the breeder of Runswift whippets seems to be in the know and they have an excellent site about colour genetics. In the what you can't get section there is info that validates Judy's statement.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/d/ddoggone/Homep...s/Genetics.html

 

[BeeJay]

Cream has been shown to mask brindle and also blue. The blue pups were bred in the UK and there is no doubt about their parents. A lot of us on here know the breeders.

If a cream can mask those colours then it could also produce a black pup. I know of black stud dogs that produce creams in almost every litter so why wouldn't one of those be able to produce a black pup?

 

[Poeta]

What was Andy Thors breeding anyway?  Wasn't he by Wishy Was?

Nip x Miss Thor

Nip was by Wishy Was

 

[Vicky]

June,        Theres only 1 person for sure knows the breeding of any pups they breed and thats the breeder, if a breeder owns both the claimed sire & dam of a litter bred then wouldn't it be easy for them to nip a few hundred miles and use a non ped on the quiet but claim there dog was the sire!.

Always wondered why no-one's done that actually :b

 

[Mark Roberts]

They probably have Vicky but to my mind if they get caught they should be banned from every spere of dog activaties (racing/showing ect) when anyone buys a KC reg pup they are buying it on good faith that every thing is as the breeder claims so anyone that got caught must be punished servierly.

 

[BeeJay]

They probably have Vicky but to my mind if they get caught they should be banned from every spere of dog activaties (racing/showing ect) when anyone buys a KC reg pup they are buying it on good faith that every thing is as the breeder claims so anyone that got caught must be punished servierly.

I agree Mark. It's fraud as well as cheating if it's a racing bred pup. :rant:

 

[Strike Whippets]

I agree Mark.  It's fraud as well as cheating if it's a racing bred pup. :rant:

I certainly agree aswell ........Now can we all stop agreeing with Mark please (w00t)

 

[Mark Roberts]

Now can we all stop agreeing with Mark please

No! carry on I could get used to this o

 

[kris]

i can remember about 20 years ago a well known winning pedigree standard poodle bitch was taken to an equally well known winning stud and left in the care of the studs owners to be mated.the bitch duly became pregnant and delivered a healthy litter of pups.the owners were furious however and sued the owner of the stud dog and won and was awarded astronomical damages.why?cos both parents were white an the pups were black! the stud dog owner also had a black standard stud dog in his kennels at the time.i can remember it being front page news in the dog press at the time. :- "

 

[Strike Whippets]

i can remember about 20 years ago a well known winning pedigree standard poodle bitch was taken to an equally well known winning  stud and left in the care of the studs owners to be mated.the bitch duly became pregnant and delivered a healthy litter of pups.the owners were furious however and sued the owner of the stud dog and won and was awarded astronomical damages.why?cos both parents were white an the pups were black! the stud dog owner also had a black standard stud dog in his kennels at the time.i can remember it being front page news in the dog press at the time. :- "

A bit of a giveaway :lol:

 

[Mark Roberts]

SO! let me get this right? brindle x fawn can't produce Black, white x white can't produce black! god am I ever going to get a Black bitch!

 

[Strike Whippets]

Just get the hair dye out .......that'll work :thumbsup:

 

[Mark Roberts]

I was thinking of Dylon as you can do that with cold water :- "

 

[Strike Whippets]

I was thinking of Dylon as you can do that with cold water  :- "

.....I'm telling :lol:

 

[BeeJay]

White x white whippets can produce blacks IF one of them is black. Oh or blue of course if the other one is a non dilute. :thumbsup:

Clear as mud isn't it. :- " :x