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Can't any of you read????? for the second time as my first post vanished!
 
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We have tried to explain to all who asked, our position for this year. please will you accept there will be

NO OPEN HELD AT THE LIZARD CLUB THIS YEAR.

We a WILL DO what we feel is best for our club

. We do not get involved in other clubs decisions and would appreciate the courtesy be returned.
 
terri said:
We have tried to explain to all who asked, our position for this year. please will you accept there will beNO OPEN HELD AT THE LIZARD CLUB THIS YEAR.

We a WILL DO what we feel is best for our club

. We do not get involved in other clubs decisions and would appreciate the courtesy be returned.
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HERE HERE
 
terri said:
In response to k9 activity
"We are sorry that you seem to have been misled regarding our committee decision not to hold an Open this year. We are very capable of holding an Open and have always been willing to make the effort to do so. We are grateful to all who have helped us in the past.

We held a successful Open last year and it was an enjoyable day for all who came.

However, despite compromising our entry reqirements, we were aware that many previous supporters of our club and indeed members, chose not to attend. Obviously this was disappointing and the profit made for the club was considerably reduced. The months leading up to the Open were less than enjoyable with many disagreements regarding the format that the Open should take. You are all aware of the reasons for this and we believe other clubs were in the same difficult position.

We are a very small club, with between 4 and 10 people regularly attending our weekly trial meetings. In order for our club to return to the original friendly, relaxed atmosphere that we are so proud of, it was proposed, seconded, and voted on at committee not to hold an Open this year.

To do so would probably have caused the same problems as last year, and possibly the end of the club altogether "

On behalf of the Committee of Lizard & District W.R.C
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I wasnt going to post on this subject but stuff it.

I can fully understand why the Lizard has taken this decission, lets face it theres been a lot of bitching comments like if you run for WCRA passports we wont come if you dont run for national points we wont come people ringing round getting otheres to boycot clubs that affiliat ect.

Judy has hit the nail on the head and in my opinion is the way forward for whippet racing (if its to survive) and thats for all clubs to run opens for both passports, it's time now for racers to drop all the bitterness caused over the litter that caused all this falling out.

all thats going to happen now is clubs dont bother running opens or worse still clubs start closing.

TIME FOR EVERYONE TO WAKE UP AND PUT THE PAST TO REST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE MAYBE THEN CLUBS LIKE THE LIZARD WILL FEEL IN A POSSITION TO START RUNNING AN OPEN AGAIN. (and a bloody good open its always been)
 
Mark Roberts said:
TIME FOR EVERYONE TO WAKE UP AND PUT THE PAST TO REST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE MAYBE THEN CLUBS LIKE THE LIZARD WILL FEEL IN A POSSITION TO START RUNNING AN OPEN AGAIN. (and a bloody good open its always been)
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I think this is rather the point Mark. The Lizard are in a position to run an open and accept all passports but I suspect that some of them don't want to do that (accept all passports I mean). If they did then it would all be OK. Seems more like a self inflicted problem to me.
 
Clubs have the right to do as their members want and as they feel best for their club/s ....... Simples .......
 
Judy said:
Mark Roberts said:
TIME FOR EVERYONE TO WAKE UP AND PUT THE PAST TO REST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE MAYBE THEN CLUBS LIKE THE LIZARD WILL FEEL IN A POSSITION TO START RUNNING AN OPEN AGAIN. (and a bloody good open its always been)
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I think this is rather the point Mark. The Lizard are in a position to run an open and accept all passports but I suspect that some of them don't want to do that (accept all passports I mean). If they did then it would all be OK. Seems more like a self inflicted problem to me.
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ITS NO PROBLEM TO US. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM. WE DONT NEED YOUR PERMISSION TO IMPLEMENT COMMITTEE DECISIONS. ALL THIS PROVES IS WE ARE RIGHT TO WITHDRAW FROM ALL THE NONSENSE THAT IS HAPPENING UP COUNTRY.

WE WERE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THE POSITION TO HELP YOU MAKE YOUR HOLIDAY PLANS, WE WERE NOT ASKING YOUR PERMISSION.

THE LIZARD OPEN WAS AN EXTRA FOR YOUR HOLIDAY NOT A RIGHT.

IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO RUN AN OPEN WE WILL LET YOU KNOW
 
Terri - you don't understand - We're not trying to get you to change your mind. I don't think anybody is. We're not talking to you - we're talking about you ie why the Lizard isn't holding an open, so there's no need to make comments asking if we can read etc . - thats just rude. It just seems to be about politics and which passports you will accept. If it was really about the good of the club you might have asked your members and you might have just accepted decisions made at your AGM. Personally I am just expressing my opinion (to which I am entitled) that if you could just forget the politics and accepted all passports then your club wouldn't be having this problem. I'm really not bothered if you have an open or not.
 
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ITS NO PROBLEM TO US. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM. WE DONT NEED YOUR PERMISSION TO IMPLEMENT COMMITTEE DECISIONS. ALL THIS PROVES IS WE ARE RIGHT TO WITHDRAW FROM ALL THE NONSENSE THAT IS HAPPENING UP COUNTRY.

WE WERE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THE POSITION TO HELP YOU MAKE YOUR HOLIDAY PLANS, WE WERE NOT ASKING YOUR PERMISSION.

THE LIZARD OPEN WAS AN EXTRA FOR YOUR HOLIDAY NOT A RIGHT.

IF AND WHEN WE DECIDE TO RUN AN OPEN WE WILL LET YOU KNOW

Oh boy that is a rude response on behalf of the Lizard WRC to your fellow racers! All they were doing was express their sadness at not being able to race with your club. They weren't demanding that you do anything for them.

In this day and age with fuel prices etc being what they are I would have thought that it was more sensible to be welcoming to racers rather than be rude. I don't think that any racer believes that it is their 'right' to run at any club open. Rather we do so to support the club and as Gobbybobby ;) said earlier to have a crack with our fellow racers whilst watching our dogs having fun.

I am sorry that my dogs won't be running at a Lizard Open for the second year, last year my dogs didn't meet your entry requirements. But as someone who isn't able to take a holiday then it saves us money and travelling time and we'll simply race elsewhere on that Sunday and make only the 1 journey down to Cornwall.
 
I wish you would all accept the clubs decision and stop posting, nothing is going to change.
 
Mark Roberts said:
terri said:
In response to k9 activity
"We are sorry that you seem to have been misled regarding our committee decision not to hold an Open this year. We are very capable of holding an Open and have always been willing to make the effort to do so. We are grateful to all who have helped us in the past.

We held a successful Open last year and it was an enjoyable day for all who came.

However, despite compromising our entry reqirements, we were aware that many previous supporters of our club and indeed members, chose not to attend. Obviously this was disappointing and the profit made for the club was considerably reduced. The months leading up to the Open were less than enjoyable with many disagreements regarding the format that the Open should take. You are all aware of the reasons for this and we believe other clubs were in the same difficult position.

We are a very small club, with between 4 and 10 people regularly attending our weekly trial meetings. In order for our club to return to the original friendly, relaxed atmosphere that we are so proud of, it was proposed, seconded, and voted on at committee not to hold an Open this year.

To do so would probably have caused the same problems as last year, and possibly the end of the club altogether "

On behalf of the Committee of Lizard & District W.R.C
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I wasnt going to post on this subject but stuff it.

I can fully understand why the Lizard has taken this decission, lets face it theres been a lot of bitching comments like if you run for WCRA passports we wont come if you dont run for national points we wont come people ringing round getting otheres to boycot clubs that affiliat ect.

Judy has hit the nail on the head and in my opinion is the way forward for whippet racing (if its to survive) and thats for all clubs to run opens for both passports, it's time now for racers to drop all the bitterness caused over the litter that caused all this falling out.

all thats going to happen now is clubs dont bother running opens or worse still clubs start closing.

TIME FOR EVERYONE TO WAKE UP AND PUT THE PAST TO REST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE MAYBE THEN CLUBS LIKE THE LIZARD WILL FEEL IN A POSSITION TO START RUNNING AN OPEN AGAIN. (and a bloody good open its always been)
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WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAID MARK TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU, IF WE ALL CAN NOT MEET ON HOLIDAY FOR A DAYS RACING TO RAISE MONEY FOR A SMALL CLUB THEN EVERYONE MISSES OUT. AND

FOR WHAT ??????? PASSPORTISM GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT MY HUMAN RIGHTS.
 
Passportism :lol: If its not in the dictionary it damn well should be :D
 
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This is my first post on K9 and probably my last, as I'm really not impressed with some of the posts on this thread, which was started purely as an announcement to anyone interested. I'd like to point out that The Lizard club is run by an elected committee, chosen by members who attend our AGM, to make decisions on their behalf for that year, regarding the week to week running of the clubs race meetings, open or otherwise. Committee decisions are also made by democratic votes within it. Any full member of any club is entitled to attend an AGM and put themselves forward for committee, thus becoming committed to that club and agreeing to abide by any majority decision. Any member of a committee who cannot accept a majority decision has no choice but to resign. I don't see the word passport mentioned in any of our committee's posts, but while on the subject, I happen to agree with Mark that it would be nice if every club was able to accept alternative passports, but the trouble is that fanatics* (dictionary definition - overenthusiastic and zealous beyond the point of reason) are not happy with compromise, it seems. It'll be points next, then exclusion of other passports.

* ( I hope they understand that I'm only talking about them, not to them!)

We have one such fanatic in our club and that certainly hasn't helped any further compromises on this matter. I for one am sick to the back teeth of feeling bullied (sorry, persuaded!) into buy second passports for my 4 dogs, when I already have a perfectly good passports to identify them. Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they are wrong or don't count. I am currently excluded from some Opens this year, but I still respect that those clubs have decided what is best for them. I want to enjoy our weekly trial meetings in peace again.

I'd like to show my appreciation to our real supporters (for they are the one's who have really missed out) for their kind, encouraging comments, but the rest just prove to me that we have made the right decision for this year.

We will know not to bother with this forum in future, we really didn't expect our announcement to cause such fervent discussion!
 
Aw i am so sorry to hear this as we have been racing for four years now and all we have ever heard is CornWall this and Corn Wall that and how great your club is and so we bought a caravan and started to do as many opens as we could every year we would book our holidays and try the further away ones that we couldnt do in a long weekend last year we finaly got to go to Andover and we were made so very very welcome all the members were so amazing we were invited to Mark and Lesey Shearings for a lovely meal have baths showers etc Angie Parker invited us to her lovelly home Sara and Andy Eaton had us to their lovelly home Gay and Ray Scutter were taking our laundry etc Dougie and Stephi came over allmost every day to check we were ok and we fineally thought right now we can go to CornWall we booked our hollidays from work and thought Corn Wall heer we come we are gutted that there is no open on this year as we were so looking forward to having a good holiday with all our lovely friends we are coming all the way from BONNIE SCOTLAND never mind maybe we will get to meet you all some other time good luck to all your club members and safe racing

LOTS OF LOVE THE BLUE GANG XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
 
From what I can see this is sour grapes over a decision made at your AGM where the members were involved in a vote. The decision not to run an open was not a democratic decision as it was made by an undemocratic committee full of their own importance! Why not ask your members? Oh yes, you wouldn't get the answer you wantrd! Bullying seems to be rife at the Lizard, and I hope you are all able to sleep at night after the way you have treated one very popular and much loved member of your club. It certainly hssn't made your club look a very favourable place to visit!
 
Yeah - and another thing ....

Stop typing in all capitals ... IT'S JUST BLOODY RUDE! :rant:
 
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