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There's some interesting information about ear tattoos here:

http://www.gsdhelpline.com/tattoo2.htm

I suspect they do hurt but the process is very quick, only a few seconds, so nothing like having a 'human' tattoo done. They clamp the ear with numbers which make tiny pin-pricks in the skin then rub the dye in afterwards.
 
My 2 are chipped because I want them to have every chance of being returned to me, should they go missing.

very grateful for the tip tho Maggiemay - I'll be making sure the vet keeps a close eye and replaces anything that's moved - i would hate a sloppy chip reader wielder to miss one!

I do have problems with the chip (or tattoo) system that we currently have in the UK though.

Firstly, my understanding is that legally, there is no requirement for a pound or rescue center to even look for a chip. of course the good ones do, but it would be naive to think that they are all good! The responsibility is on the owner to ring round - fine if my dog is still in my area, but if they had been dumped further afield, how would I know who to even start ringing?

My second big grievance is that a chip alone does not prove ownership in the courts - only DNA can do this. But no pound or police station is going to test DNA, so to be covered i have to do both.

I find the law willfully contradictory on this score. On the one hand, my dogs are seen as my property - stealing them no more serious than nicking my car.

But if it is recovered, I do not need a stored sample of my car's molecules in order to prove it's mine - the numberplate will do it. Yet a microchip registered to me, at my address is not proof enough that a dog is mine?
 
I agree with those points. Most dog wardens and pounds are pretty good about checking for chips, but there's no legal requirement for dogs to be checked so I'm sure it doesn't always happen.

The other thing I think is wrong is that if a dog or cat is killed on the roads it's dealt with by the highways department and in most areas they don't scan for chips. If your pet goes missing the fact they've been run over might not be the news you want to hear, but it must be even worse never knowing what happened :(
 
urchin said:
My 2 are chipped because I want them to have every chance of being returned to me, should they go missing.very grateful for the tip tho Maggiemay - I'll be making sure the vet keeps a close eye and replaces anything that's moved - i would hate a sloppy chip reader wielder to miss one!

I do have problems with the chip (or tattoo) system that we currently have in the UK though.

Firstly, my understanding is that legally, there is no requirement for a pound or rescue center to even look for a chip. of course the good ones do, but it would be naive to think that they are all good! The responsibility is on the owner to ring round - fine if my dog is still in my area, but if they had been dumped further afield, how would I know who to even start ringing?

My second big grievance is that a chip alone does not prove ownership in the courts - only DNA can do this. But no pound or police station is going to test DNA, so to be covered i have to do both.

I find the law willfully contradictory on this score. On the one hand, my dogs are seen as my property - stealing them no more serious than nicking my car.

But if it is recovered, I do not need a stored sample of my car's molecules in order to prove it's mine - the numberplate will do it. Yet a microchip registered to me, at my address is not proof enough that a dog is mine?


it is so sickening how little value the officals put on our hairy kids :rant:

i have all of mine chipped and im now just 5 short of having them all dna`d too, i found out about the only legal way of proof of ownership was dna via k9 , i think a small price to pay at £20 here keith, is a long way forwards in case of any scum bag trying to pinch my dogs!!! :rant: mind you those of you who know mine would know they would be returned swiftly coz they are all lil buggars!!! :D
 
FeeFee said:
There's some interesting information about ear tattoos here:
http://www.gsdhelpline.com/tattoo2.htm

I suspect they do hurt but the process is very quick, only a few seconds, so nothing like having a 'human' tattoo done. They clamp the ear with numbers which make tiny pin-pricks in the skin then rub the dye in afterwards.


thats realy quite good seems far better than the chip but still nots sure i like the idea of a tatto though :b but deffinatly worth looking into it further.

this dna thing sound quite good though to. hmmmmm!!!

more reserch needed i think??????????

:thumbsup:
 
Just to add, their have been cases where dogs with ear tattoos have had their ears cut off by thiefs so they cannot be identified :rant:
 
you get a free dna test done with the 'Petback' MedAlert service through the Missing Pets Bureau.

Really good value for money and you get a discount for more than one dog

www.missingpetsbureau.com

All mine are done.... dont think there is such a thing as overcautious nowadays :(
 
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whippetwise said:
Just to add, their have been cases where dogs with ear tattoos have had their ears cut off by thiefs so they cannot be identified  :rant:
My 2 are microchipped

I wouldnt have the tatoo done because of the threat of having the ear cut off that really bothers me

But having the dna done may be an alternative as Maggie May pointed out you cant be too careful!!!
 
jinx and rubys mum said:
whippetwise said:
Just to add, their have been cases where dogs with ear tattoos have had their ears cut off by thiefs so they cannot be identified  :rant:
My 2 are microchipped

I wouldnt have the tatoo done because of the threat of having the ear cut off that really bothers me

But having the dna done may be an alternative as Maggie May pointed out you cant be too careful!!!

I am reliably informed that dog thieves cut out the micro chip with a penknife , so there are risks and disadvantages with any system. Having had experience of migrating chips in my racing and coursing dogs, including one chip which has completely disappeared, tattooing is my own personal choice of identification.
 
I was thinking it was only a matter of time before they started digging out chips. God what sort of world do we live in :rant: scumbags :rant:
 
I had a word with my vet about the microchips. Apparently its the type of chips used....if they go for the more expensive ones...they dont move apparantely or migrate as you put it.

Ive had two of mine done....Archie is still yet to be microchipped. I think its well worth it for peace of mind.

The vet also said if the chips do migrate...its quite a simple op to remove them anyway.
 
maggie217 said:
Janimal said:
The vet also said if the chips do migrate...its quite a simple op to remove them anyway.
Wouldn't this mean it is also simple for thieves to remove too?

Pauline

true, but then again if my house was broken into and my dogs left to roam free (as has happened to me before) i have a little peace of mind knowing i have given my dogs every chance to be returned to me.

it was a very simple procedure to remove maggies, she was having a tooth out anyway so they just knicked the skin and removed it. the new one doesnt look to have moved so far........ hopefully it is an expensive one then and will stay put!
 
plus your vet can check when you dogs go in for boosters or check ups....

well mine does...he checks the microchip is still where it should be. :thumbsup:
 
Apparently tattoos are legal proof of ownership, and will stand up in court.

The tattoos do hurt briefly, and the dogs did react fleetingley- a bit like when you

stand on them accidently :)

It's extremely rare for the dogs to have ears cut of to try and hide the tattoo,

if this is done (which is rare) it is usually the owner of a racing grey trying to hide the

identity of his/her dog.

The link for the tattoo register is here,

http://www.dog-register.co.uk/

I like the fact that they contact you if your dog is found, if your dog is scanned the chip company don't contact you,

but leave it up to the person who has found your dog.

One of my dogs chip has migrated, and I got it replaced, yes they are meant

to scan the whole body, but do they?

And I would never, ever ring the pound,please go and look yourself, I went to

collect a male grey from my local pound- it was a tiny, female lurcher- with a collie type coat :blink: Unbelievable :eek:

My dogs being stolen is just the worse nightmare ever, and as already

pointed out, they may be dumped in another part of the country- so where would you

start looking? At least the tattoos are visible, and mine are chipped as well.

It should be a legal obligation to scan each dog, check for tattoos, and put them

all on a national database. Every lost dog should be on an internet database- then

perhaps a few more would get home.
 
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Sirlurcherlot said:
Apparently tattoos are legal proof of ownership, and will stand up in court.The tattoos do hurt briefly, and the dogs did react fleetingley- a bit like when you

stand on them accidently :)

My cat has her ear tatooed. We got her from a rescue and they do it as a matter of course - the cat is actually registered to them and me. Unfortunately, it's pretty small and hard to read.

One of the dogs is tatooed and it's faded badly after 10 years. Two of them are chipped and one has moved, but he was a bugger getting it done and I suspect wiggled at the wrong time. Our kennel club requires dogs be identified either by tatoo or chip before registration.

Louanne
 
It should be a legal obligation to scan each dog, check for tattoos, and put them

all on a national database. Every lost dog should be on an internet database- then

perhaps a few more would get home.






i like this idea!! It would be great wouldnt it, but lets face it something like this will never come in. :(
 
maggiemay2 said:
It should be a legal obligation to scan each dog, check for tattoos, and put them

all on a national database. Every lost dog should be on an internet database- then

perhaps a few more would get home.


i like this idea!! It would be great wouldnt it, but lets face it something like this will never come in. :(






No, it won't, they're "only dogs" and no-one cares. :( :(

At least Dog lost do a good job, and lurcher search, which is smaller

but cross posts lost lurchers/sighthounds to different sighthound websites,

and gives advice on what to do.
 

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