so ok while im waiting for my cheques to come and then they have to clear,whos going to put food on my table ?and pay my rent then thers the bank charges when payments bounce ,its not just you thats suffering is my point and im not having a go just putting my dilema across to ,anyway i hope that amos is ok maybe you should give pdsa a ring explain your situation and see if they can help maybe, just a thought and trying to help :huggles: i didnt say you was lazy either ,maybe my fault you got called lazy as i started the thread ,but my aim was at royalmail bosses not postmen/women :huggles: