Price Of A Puppy!!

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I had a phone call recently asking if I had any puppies for sale or if I knew of anybody. I personally do not.

After a chat with the caller who seems an ideal possible owner, I was shocked to hear that they attended a recent show and a less than successful show person and a novice to breeding stated that they charge 450 pounds for a pet.

This to me seems a big ask.

It has become more common place recently that people are coming into Whippets and start breeding within a couple of years with little or know real knowledge about the breed or pedigrees.

What has happened to serving an apprenticeship in the breed before you go head long into breeding? It would be interesting to know if they have even seen any of they dogs in the forth generation of the pedigrees or are they just mating what to them seems a :wub: :wub: :wub: !!! dog to a :wub: :wub: :wub: !!! bitch because they are sooooooo cute!!! then charge 450 for the results.

 

[whippynit]

i think maybe its abit unfair to say all 'new' people to the breed are more than likely breeding a :wub: dog to a :wub: dog. Im 'new' to the breed and although im not planning on breeding a litter myself yet, i do feel i do alot of research on pedigrees, etc as i find it personally interesting :thumbsup: :b maybe you could get someone in a breed, (or any particular 'hobby' or 'passion' for that matter) who has not been 'in it' for long but throws themselves into researching, and watching, and learning etc. Why should a new breeder charge less just because they havent been breeding as long? Everyone has to start somewhere.they still might of put as much effort, and thought and money into the litter as a more established breeder, and also at what point could they class themselves as more experienced and charge more for a pup? :wacko: I think paying less for a 'pet' is degrading to the whippet, as most show whips are pets first and foremost anyway - who just happen to do dog shows too! :lol:

Also, i paid a very similar price for both my girls even though one was 'show bred' and the other 'pet'.(although both KC reg) Even though they are both 'pets' and family members first and foremost obviously! :huggles:

I think its been said on here before that you cant really except to pay less for a 'pet' as at the end of the day the 'pet' pup still cost as much to rear, etc as the 'show pup'. I think most people on here, myself included expect to pay £400 -£450 for a whippet pup - and i dont expect to be charged considerabley less just because it may be someones fist, second, or third litter :blink: I think its the buyers 'job' to use their common sense when speaking to the breeder to determine how much thought, and care has been put into the litter and if they are prepared and happy to pay around the £400 mark then fair do's i say! :thumbsup:

Just a thought! :huggles:

 

[whippynit]

i think maybe its abit unfair to say all 'new' people to the breed are more than likely breeding a  :wub: dog to a  :wub: dog.  Im 'new' to the breed and although im not planning on breeding a litter myself yet, i do feel i do alot of research on pedigrees, etc as i find it personally interesting :thumbsup:   :b maybe you could get someone in a breed, (or any particular 'hobby' or 'passion' for that matter) who has not been 'in it' for long but throws themselves into researching, and watching, and learning etc. Why should a new breeder charge less just because they havent been breeding as long? Everyone has to start somewhere.they still might of put as much effort, and thought and money into the litter as a more established breeder, and also at what point could they class themselves as more experienced and charge more for a pup?  :wacko: I think paying less for a 'pet' is degrading to the whippet, as most show whips are pets first and foremost anyway - who just happen to do dog shows too! :lol:
Also, i paid a very similar price for both my girls even though one was 'show bred' and the other 'pet'.(although both KC reg) Even though they are both 'pets' and family members first and foremost obviously! :huggles:

I think its been said on here before that you cant really except to pay less for a 'pet' as at the end of the day the 'pet' pup still cost as much to rear, etc as the 'show pup'.  I think most people on here, myself included expect to pay £400 -£450 for a whippet pup - and i dont expect to be charged considerabley less just because it may be someones fist, second, or third litter :blink: I think its the buyers 'job' to use their common sense when speaking to the breeder to determine how much thought, and care has been put into the litter and if they are prepared and happy to pay around the £400 mark then fair do's i say! :thumbsup:

Just a thought! :huggles:

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Incase i get pounched on BTW just want to say that, yes im sure there are people that go in feet first and will just breed pretty to pretty, or whatever - just pointing out that not everyone new is nessicerly like that! :- "

 

[Jan Doherty]

The prices of all breeds has risen dramatically. There is far more disposable income. The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out. Unfortunately paying big prices does not mean they will be any better looked after or stop them from being dumped.

And of course where there is a market you will always people who will exploit it. Its a pity more people dont do what I did when I was making enquiries about ETTS. When I was told the price I flatly refused to pay it and walked away.

 

[midlanderkeith]

The prices of all breeds has risen dramatically. There is far more disposable income. The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out. Unfortunately paying big prices does not mean they will be any better looked after or stop them from being dumped.
And of course where there is a market you will always people who will exploit it. Its a pity more people dont do what I did when I was making enquiries about ETTS. When I was told the price I flatly refused to pay it and walked away.

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5/6d :blink: in owd £ s d i paid for my first jack russel, look at the price now, £150

keith

 

[EJW]

The prices of all breeds has risen dramatically. There is far more disposable income. The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out. Unfortunately paying big prices does not mean they will be any better looked after or stop them from being dumped.
And of course where there is a market you will always people who will exploit it. Its a pity more people dont do what I did when I was making enquiries about ETTS. When I was told the price I flatly refused to pay it and walked away.

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Sadly you're right Jan!

And there certainly seems to be a sudden upsurge in Iggie puppy farmers :angry:

Which is the last thing this or any other breed needs!

 

[jok]

i think maybe its abit unfair to say all 'new' people to the breed are more than likely breeding a  :wub: dog to a  :wub: dog.  Im 'new' to the breed and although im not planning on breeding a litter myself yet, i do feel i do alot of research on pedigrees, etc as i find it personally interesting :thumbsup:   :b maybe you could get someone in a breed, (or any particular 'hobby' or 'passion' for that matter) who has not been 'in it' for long but throws themselves into researching, and watching, and learning etc. Why should a new breeder charge less just because they havent been breeding as long? Everyone has to start somewhere.they still might of put as much effort, and thought and money into the litter as a more established breeder, and also at what point could they class themselves as more experienced and charge more for a pup?  :wacko: I think paying less for a 'pet' is degrading to the whippet, as most show whips are pets first and foremost anyway - who just happen to do dog shows too! :lol:
Also, i paid a very similar price for both my girls even though one was 'show bred' and the other 'pet'.(although both KC reg) Even though they are both 'pets' and family members first and foremost obviously! :huggles:

I think its been said on here before that you cant really except to pay less for a 'pet' as at the end of the day the 'pet' pup still cost as much to rear, etc as the 'show pup'.  I think most people on here, myself included expect to pay £400 -£450 for a whippet pup - and i dont expect to be charged considerabley less just because it may be someones fist, second, or third litter :blink: I think its the buyers 'job' to use their common sense when speaking to the breeder to determine how much thought, and care has been put into the litter and if they are prepared and happy to pay around the £400 mark then fair do's i say! :thumbsup:

Just a thought! :huggles:

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Lisa, you've pretty much summed up what i was going to say!

Im 'new' too but that doesn't mean that im some sort of idiot! Like Lisa, i spend ages and ages studying pedigree's, researching etc.

Ruby is only a baby but i am already thinking ahead to the prospect of breeding a litter from her. By being sensible and planning ahead i have two years to look for dogs i like, look at their offspring, study pedigrees, talk to those who are experienced within the breed etc etc That way i hope to make a good choice and produce a puppy that i am proud to take in the ring and show. Because i am new, i am trying to look at the long term picture and hopefully build a solid foundation. I intend to still be around the breed in 20, 30, ++ years time.

I personally think all puppies in the litter should be the same price, whether they're going to be shown or pet. The same level of effort goes into each and everyone of them.

On the otherhand, somebody could have 30 years in Whippets and churn them out without much thought other than the money.

What im trying to say that everyone is an individual. Also, if people are happy to pay the prices quoted, people will continue to charge that amount.

 

[seaspot_run]

The price of a pet varies by region here in the USA, with the higher-cost areas of the country being much higher in pet prices than the areas where homes with land around them are much cheaper.

Just for comparison purposes, a pet puppy in my region (mid-Atlantic) goes for between $600-$950, with my own price being $700 for a male and $800 for a female (that's mostly a matter of supply vs. demand).

Up in New England, I know a famous Whippet breeder who is getting $1200 for pet pups and nobody bats an eye. In the south, it's $500-700. In California, $1000 is quite usual.

A healthy well-raised pet is a healthy well-raised pet in my book. Some of my breedings are inexpensive, if I own both parents, while others are quite costly, involving shipping and a high outside stud fee. We will not even talk about the cost of doing a frozen semen mating.

But I don't think that the pet people should be charged more just because I chose to do a more expensive mating.

Just my .02 cents (or tuppence, if you like).

Karen Lee

 

[nina]

The prices of all breeds has risen dramatically. There is far more disposable income. The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out. Unfortunately paying big prices does not mean they will be any better looked after or stop them from being dumped.

And dont forget the current trend for IG X WHIPPETS, IG X POODLES, IG X JACK RUSSELLS, again all bringing in a tidy income for these parasites

And no you are dead right even tho these x breed mongrels are being churned out at ridiculous prices, it doesnt stop them being dumped later on down the line :angry:

The more unfortunate part of all this is that sadly there are always the odd unscrupulous people in the breed that are happy to go on & sell a puppy to these people that up until now have been forced to supply the pet market with these x breeds BUT now they have an open door to breed pure bred iggies

Oh lord, watch this space :- "

 

[EJW]

The prices of all breeds has risen dramatically. There is far more disposable income. The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out. Unfortunately paying big prices does not mean they will be any better looked after or stop them from being dumped.

The more unfortunate part of all this is that sadly there are always the odd unscrupulous people in the breed that are happy to go on & sell a puppy to these people that up until now have been forced to supply the pet market with these x breeds BUT now they have an open door to breed pure bred iggies

This is not good news at all particularly with a specialist breed like IG's.

Unfortunately the unscrupulous breeders do not care about the future welfare of their puppies or the bitch at all :rant:

Their only interest is the money that can be made :angry:

 

[kris]

a guy i know who runs a local martial arts studio told me today that his girlfriend has just bought two jack russell x chihuahuas.price 800 pounds each! (w00t)

sorry but theyre mongrels to me. i didnt say this to him but thats what i thought!

 

[seaspot_run]

a guy i know who runs a local martial arts studio told me today that his girlfriend has just bought two jack russell x chihuahuas.price 800 pounds each! (w00t) sorry but theyre mongrels to me. i didnt say this to him but thats what i thought!

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We have that here in the USA, only they are called "Labradoodles" and "Puggles"--designer breeds, all.

I don't have anything about someone who wants to try to dedicate themselves to creating a new breed (if not for such people, we wouldn't have our beloved Whippets) but until they have a number of generations of stock that breeds true, it's a mix and should NOT command purebred PEDIGREE prices!!!

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[aslan]

When you work out the cost of some THING that you're going to sell, be it either in business or as a private sale - you work out the cost of the materials and the time put in etc and then you add in a profit.

When I work out the cost of my pups I add up the costs of keeping the bitch healthy whilst in whelp, the cost of feeding, worming, flea & tick treatments, vaccinating, registering, and the cost of the stud fee including travel. Then I add a little bit more to cover any unforeseen costs - like the time I had an $800 operation bill for a pup who'd swallowed a bone whole.

I must try to cover the costs of my litters so that I am not continually out of pocket. Of course this is all in theory - it never really works out that way in practice. Rarely, if ever, have I made a profit on a litter. More often than not I breed a litter at financial loss to myself.

I do charge less for my pets than my show pups because the definite pets are sorted at 8 weeks and allowed to go to their new homes at that age. The prospective show pups stay with me longer until I have decided which one I want for myself and other prospective show owners - and this is usually until they are three months or more and they have had their second lot of injections, two more lots of worming. If someone comes to buy a pet pup from me (which was a designated show pup but has not been able to be sold to a show home) at 3mths of age or more, they pay the 'show' price.

 

[Jan Doherty]

I only breed when I want to keep a puppy so the money side to me is irrelevant. Call it what you like if you start asking big money the puppies become a cash crop.

I charge a third of the price for a bitch puppy than what is currently being charged by most breeders. However I also have strict guidelines as to the future of those puppies and most will be sold in partnership. Of the 5 Iggie litters I have sold they are all in their original homes. Those not being shown are spayed or castrated as a terms of their purchase. Older pups that I run on I dont take any money for as they have normally gone to friends, the home is the important part and in some instances I have had them done before they go.

I just despair at what is going on in Iggies and I know that whippets have their fair share of unscupulous breeders but thankfully they dont command the over inflated price tags that toy dogs seem to have these days and as for designer dogs :rant:

 

[JAX]

I had a phone call recently asking if I had any puppies for sale or if I knew of anybody. I personally do not.After a chat with the caller who seems an ideal possible owner, I was shocked to hear that they attended a recent show and a less than successful show person and a novice to breeding stated that they charge 450 pounds for a pet.

This to me seems a big ask.

It has become more common place recently that people are coming into Whippets and start breeding within a couple of years with little or know real knowledge about the breed or pedigrees.

What has happened to serving an apprenticeship in the breed before you go head long into breeding? It would be interesting to know if they have even seen any of they dogs in the forth generation of the pedigrees or are they just mating what to them seems a  :wub:   :wub:   :wub: !!! dog to a  :wub:   :wub:   :wub:   !!! bitch because they are sooooooo cute!!! then charge 450 for the results.

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Must admit I half agree here (w00t)

Why should people who are new to the breed , maybe having their first litter ( how ever well researched NOT all people are as diligent at this ) they just decide to have a litter to make money , maybe they do want to keep one , but why should they charge the same amount as people who have been in the breed many years and are well respected too (no I dont me an me ) :- "

I would nt have dreamed of charging the same price as some of our top people when I had my first few of litters and had bred some Championship show winners . Now I have 4 generations here for people to meet the` family` ,

When Im researching a pedigree I can see in my mind most of the dogs who I am reading about. Names will be just names to new breeders . Ok we all have to start some where but I agree with Echo to charge the same as a well respected top kennel seems to me taking the p**s slightly

But then again we have people who breed litter after litter , and not because they want a pup for themselves either ,dont we . Now THAT I do find winds me up :rant: They know who they are :- "

 

[AnnSa]

I have never breed any of my dogs so i suppose this topic doesnt really

apply to me, well saying that i buy dogs so i do have an interest in prices.

 

But i just really wanted to say what an unpleasant topic its turning into.

It seems like its being used to air some personal problems to me.

Calling people parasites and the such...............

 

[Lucadion]

The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out.

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I don't think it's the price that's bringing in the puppy farmers. It because lots of people want an IG and hardly any are available :blink:

 

[EJW]

The current price of Iggie puppies has really brought in the puppy farmers despite the breed trying to keep them out.

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I don't think it's the price that's bringing in the puppy farmers. It because lots of people want an IG and hardly any are available :blink:

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There are very few breeders that I'd want to buy an IG from!

In fact I can think of only 4 maybe 5.

& if you want one from a decent breeder I'm afraid you may have to wait up to 2 years!

If I couldn't have one from any of them I'd rather not have an IG at all!

Buying from puppy farmers (who are parasites I'm afraid) is a big mistake!

They have no interest in the welfare of their puppies or what kind of homes they go to & you cannot be sure that you are getting a puppy from healthy lines.

They are only in it for the money! Nothing else matters!

 

[quintessence]

I don't know about Igs. but I know two separate people who are breeding litters at the moment, one Jack Russell and the other Chihuahuas and both are doing it just for the money. They both openly admitted it to me when I asked what their reasons for breeding the litters were. I think we are a nation of puppy farmers, and the evidence is scribbled onto the backs of envelopes and posted in pet shop windows.

Jenny

 

[neave]

I recently phoned a gentleman who was advertising a litter of whippets in our local paper. He was charging alot. When i asked him about the breeding he couldnt tell me a thing i also asked about the markings of the pup and he replied black and white strips and sandy colours. I think he was out to make a quick buck!

Another lady was advertising a pup which she cant get sold, would make a lovley show dog. She has never shown in her life, so how on earth would she know if its show quality. She is another person out to make a quick buck. These people really annoy :rant: