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I was referring to an IG!

And yes Georgia did cost me £450!
 
EJW said:
I was referring to an IG!And yes Georgia did cost me £450!

thank you wasnt having a dig at you just reading annsa posts and going back through it is very confusing to those who dont know who is who :wacko:
 
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
 
I am so pleased this has given some people something to think & talk about,

I had hoped it would.

The topic was the price of puppies, I personally think that 450 is a resepectable price for a show 'potential' puppy. And I am afraid to say research and reading as many books as you like will not give you the experience of see dogs develop over many years will 'get your eye' and have a better understanding of the dogs in your chosen line. I personally think this would take about 6 to 8 years.

Next we will have people judging at top level with little or no knowledge or experience!!!!

So my point still stands we have far too many people breeding within a couple of years or so in the breed and you could fit there knowledge and experience on the back of a postage stamp.

I would be interested to know out of interest any top kennels and or breeders in the UK that charge 1000 range for an 8 week old puppy. I think its a myth.

If my thread makes someone think a little harder about if they should breed yet then the answer is almost certainly that you have not spent your apprenticeship yet.
 
Like a lot of things in life,There are some people out there who see things to make money and in dog breeding there will be some?.You have to do your research on breeders as well as them doing it on you?

When i used to have persian cats(4) They all arrived with various prices,Because some of them did not "make the standard" so the price was lower.

If genuine breeders know people/farmers then name and shame them?

A advert in pets at home in Bolton(middlebrook store) has puppies for £300 KC reg,etc....They seem cheap? and just a mobile number......made me very suspicious :- "
 
phill said:
Like a lot of things in life,There are some people out there who see things to make money and in dog breeding there will be some?.You have to do your research on breeders as well as them doing it on you?
When i used to have persian cats(4) They all arrived with various prices,Because some of them did not "make the standard" so the price was lower.

If genuine breeders know people/farmers then name and shame them?

A advert in pets at home in Bolton(middlebrook store) has puppies for £300 KC reg,etc....They seem cheap? and just a mobile number......made me very suspicious :- "


Oh how I wish we could name & shame them!

But they'd be screaming slander at the top of their lungs! :rant:
 
daledogs said:
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
I have to ask the question why did you feel you had to have a litter of pups?

was it for the experience & Fun of doing it ?

Was to improve the breed? or to hopefully breed a quality pup for yourself?

If it is loving homes you are breeding for I think these owners would probably find a lovely dog in the local pound.

Cost is always the last thing on my mind I don't think I have ever really made any real money from a litter. Just taking into consideration the whole long term costs of getting to the stage that I feel I have the right to breed yes the RIGHT.
 
well dad has his whippets at £350 kc reg dew clawed wormed and vaccinated and he feels its a reasonable price, he is more of a working whippet background so unable to say wheter they would show , although we have kept jessie back for showing , bit of racing and lure coursing, , but first and foremost any pup should be a well loved and cared for family pet in a loving home enviroment :thumbsup:
 
I don't think you need to serve any specific length of apprenticeship to be able to understand dogs, for goodness sake you can become a Dr in 6 years why does it have to take 8 years to be able to get your head round breeding dogs. Some people can breed and show dogs all their lives and still not explain a shoulder placement correctly. In fact I would go so far as to say that if you are correct Echo why do long established breeders and exhibitors sometimes show the dogs they do?
 
echo said:
daledogs said:
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
I have to ask the question why did you feel you had to have a litter of pups?

was it for the experience & Fun of doing it ?

Was to improve the breed? or to hopefully breed a quality pup for yourself?

If it is loving homes you are breeding for I think these owners would probably find a lovely dog in the local pound.

Cost is always the last thing on my mind I don't think I have ever really made any real money from a litter. Just taking into consideration the whole long term costs of getting to the stage that I feel I have the right to breed yes the RIGHT.

i bred for myself
 
daledogs said:
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
:thumbsup: Very well said Dawn..... my sentiments entirely!!! :thumbsup:
 
EJW said:
phill said:
Like a lot of things in life,There are some people out there who see things to make money and in dog breeding there will be some?.You have to do your research on breeders as well as them doing it on you?
When i used to have persian cats(4) They all arrived with various prices,Because some of them did not "make the standard" so the price was lower.

If genuine breeders know people/farmers then name and shame them?

A advert in pets at home in Bolton(middlebrook store) has puppies for £300 KC reg,etc....They seem cheap? and just a mobile number......made me very suspicious :- "


Oh how I wish we could name & shame them!

But they'd be screaming slander at the top of their lungs! :rant:


cant be slander if only truth comes out! let them scream! :thumbsup:
 
posh totty said:
EJW said:
phill said:
Like a lot of things in life,There are some people out there who see things to make money and in dog breeding there will be some?.You have to do your research on breeders as well as them doing it on you?
When i used to have persian cats(4) They all arrived with various prices,Because some of them did not "make the standard" so the price was lower.

If genuine breeders know people/farmers then name and shame them?

A advert in pets at home in Bolton(middlebrook store) has puppies for £300 KC reg,etc....They seem cheap? and just a mobile number......made me very suspicious :- "


Oh how I wish we could name & shame them!

But they'd be screaming slander at the top of their lungs! :rant:


cant be slander if only truth comes out! let them scream! :thumbsup:

Unfortunately it's not possible to prove it though. Is it?
 
quintessence said:
I don't think you need to serve any specific length of apprenticeship to be able to understand dogs, for goodness sake you can become a Dr in 6 years why does it have to take 8 years to be able to get your head round breeding dogs.  Some people can breed and show dogs all their lives and still not explain a shoulder placement correctly.  In fact I would go so far as to say that  if you are correct Echo why do long established breeders and exhibitors sometimes show the dogs they do?

Because in my opinon you should serve time in the breed before you are able to breed. In Fact I would go as far as to say it should be a KC requirement.

And yes 6 years to become a Doctor and thats before they start to specialize.

This will not always help some people and you are right they will never have any idea. And as for your last question, I asked myself that at many shows over many years and can't answer that question. It might be that they don't sell anything on, I don't disagree with this or agree its up to them.
 
daledogs said:
echo said:
daledogs said:
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
I have to ask the question why did you feel you had to have a litter of pups?

was it for the experience & Fun of doing it ?

Was to improve the breed? or to hopefully breed a quality pup for yourself?

If it is loving homes you are breeding for I think these owners would probably find a lovely dog in the local pound.

Cost is always the last thing on my mind I don't think I have ever really made any real money from a litter. Just taking into consideration the whole long term costs of getting to the stage that I feel I have the right to breed yes the RIGHT.

i bred for myself

Interesting answer,

why did you breed for yourself?

Do you hope to get a better quality show/working dog and put something back into the breed gene pool?
 
echo said:
daledogs said:
echo said:
daledogs said:
As most of you know i,ve got a litter at the moment.To be honest i hav'ent been bother about the extra cost,extra food,dewclaws,kc reg etc.My main concern is rearing a healthy litter,looking after Mum and enjoying it(even though it can be hard work!)and the other most important thing,making sure they go to the right loving homes.As long as they are being loved and looked after what more could you want.I f they want to have a go at showing,then why not whether for fun or a bit serious.If you are worried about the cost,then why breed!!!
I have to ask the question why did you feel you had to have a litter of pups?

was it for the experience & Fun of doing it ?

Was to improve the breed? or to hopefully breed a quality pup for yourself?

If it is loving homes you are breeding for I think these owners would probably find a lovely dog in the local pound.

Cost is always the last thing on my mind I don't think I have ever really made any real money from a litter. Just taking into consideration the whole long term costs of getting to the stage that I feel I have the right to breed yes the RIGHT.

i bred for myself

Interesting answer,

why did you breed for yourself?

Do you hope to get a better quality show/working dog and put something back into the breed gene pool?

Because i wanted one myself.I hope i,ve bred some nice whippets whether for pet/show or working.

Perhaps that question should be ask to anyone who had a bred a litter
 
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