Price Of A Puppy!!

[kris]

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ive seen first time breeders advertising pups as show quality.now i dont know if they know this but under the trades descriptions act if those pups are bought with that description then develop a fault that precludes them from being shown they are wide open to a case for legal action under the 1964 sale of goods act.'goods offered for sale must be as they are described'. :- "

its hard enough for an experienced breder to figure out which pups are show and which are pet.but id happily pay more for their expertise and experience. :thumbsup: you cant buy experience and you cant get it out of a book i dont care how much research you do.yes ive seen pups for sale from newcomers and theyre charging the same as well known successful breeders. even though the costs of rearing the pups is similar the expertise isnt.i wouldnt dream of taking my pajero car to a local grease jockey for a service,id take it to a mitsubishi garage where experts can give her the once over and its the same with a pedigree pup.if i wanted a show dog id go to the best and buy the best and id expect to pay for the priviledge and the expertise.ive lost count of how many things ive learned over the years that isnt in any book on dogs and which cant be learned only by experience

 

[sue greenwood]

People who go in to this as a business should be paying Tax on their gains. If you feel so agreived about their charges point the tax man in their direction and then maybe it will slow them up. I have a litter due at the end of the week i'll charge the going rate. Any money made will go toward my two bitches i have now being spayed. I'll keep a bitch so i have an option to carry on breeding if i want although it isn't the be all and end all. My breeding is for racing mainly but if one turns out to be just right i might show it. I've only had two littersand this will be my third to be quite honest if i made a profit it was a small one but i would let dogs go at a cheaper rate to well known friends because they would look after them to the point of spoling them. My main aim; once i have the one i want the rest have to have good homes. It is annoying that people use these beautiful beasts just as a commodity. Very sad in deed.

 

[parnew]

its hard enough for an experienced breeder to  figure out which pups are show and which are pet.but id happily pay more for their expertise and experience. :thumbsup: you cant buy experience and you cant get it out of  a book i dont care how much research you do.yes ive seen pups for sale from newcomers and theyre charging the same as well known successful breeders. even though the costs of rearing the pups is similar the expertise isnt.i wouldnt dream of taking my pajero car to a local grease jockey for a service,id take it to a mitsubishi garage where experts can give her the once over and its the same with a pedigree pup.if i wanted a show dog id go to the best and buy the best and id expect to pay for the priviledge and the expertise.ive lost count of how many things ive learned over the years that isnt in any book on dogs and which cant be learned only by experience

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Well said :thumbsup: , on the other hand you cant place all new whippet breeders in this class, but as you said it experience does count heaps and this works for me.

 

[dragonfly]

I am intrigued by the number of breeders (often quite new to the breed) who advertise puppies for sale stating "show home preferred".

...Why?

 

[irenegoodnight]

I am intrigued by the number of breeders (often quite new to the breed) who advertise puppies for sale stating "show home preferred".
...Why?

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Because they don't know any better, and obviously think that all their litter are show quality.

Irene

 

[posh totty]

i am going to ask this question and i do ask it with no ill intentions at all , its just a question which im hoping you will all answer honestly , then im going to run for cover!! :b

How much do you think the average puppy costs to rear til leats say 8 weeks, as you are all responsible breeder , also add the cost of vaccs too , disregard the kc reg etc etc, just plain rearing and vaccs , then after that total add on the kc payments please :thumbsup:

 

[posh totty]

I am intrigued by the number of breeders (often quite new to the breed) who advertise puppies for sale stating "show home preferred".
...Why?

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Because they don't know any better, and obviously think that all their litter are show quality.

Irene

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another angle could be is that they dont wish you show themselves for whatever reasons and would like to have the pleasure of seeing dogs they have bred going on and doing things? :thumbsup:

forgot to add but if they are advertising as show quality without either themselves having the ability or maybe a showing friend having the experience or knowledge then thats a whole different ball game and liable for legal action :thumbsup:

 

[Jan Doherty]

i am going to ask this question and i do ask it with no ill intentions at all , its just a question which im hoping you will all answer honestly , then im going to run for cover!!  :b
How much do you think the average puppy costs to rear til leats say 8 weeks, as you are all responsible breeder , also add the cost of vaccs too , disregard the kc reg etc etc, just plain rearing and vaccs , then after that total add on the kc payments please  :thumbsup:

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Certainly not a thousand pounds per puppy regardless of the breed :- "

 

[posh totty]

no its a genuine question as per raised on the first post im not stating any breed but would be good for people before they think of breeding exactly what the basic miinmum cost would be to raise a puppy whatever the breed, this could make people think twice about breeding from little flora coz she is pretty and she loves freddy next door ? see what i mean? doesnt really matter to much about the breed only the size comparision when saying how much something healthy put to another healthy mate , they will all need x amount of food, need x amounts of worming endless washing of bedding etc etc ,and the time and effort with the most basic of tasks? is that clearer? :thumbsup:

 

[irenegoodnight]

Nobody - no matter how experienced can GUARANTEE a young puppy being show standard.

Show potential if you like, but we all know you are very lucky to get more than one really good show dog in most litters.

Having said that there are exceptions to the rule, and I do know a few.

Irene

 

[irenegoodnight]

Nobody - no matter how experienced can GUARANTEE a young puppy being show standard.
Show potential if you like, but we all know you are very lucky to get more than one REALLY GOOD show dog in most litters.

Having said that there are exceptions to the rule, and I do know a few.

Irene

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Then again, what are we calling "show standard"

99% can be entered at shows, some win, some don't, just depends on the Judge and nobody judges exactly the same, that's what makes the show game fun.

 

[nina]

i am going to ask this question and i do ask it with no ill intentions at all , its just a question which im hoping you will all answer honestly , then im going to run for cover!!  :b
How much do you think the average puppy costs to rear til leats say 8 weeks, as you are all responsible breeder , also add the cost of vaccs too , disregard the kc reg etc etc, just plain rearing and vaccs , then after that total add on the kc payments please  :thumbsup:

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Certainly not a thousand pounds per puppy regardless of the breed :- "

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Couldn't have said it better :thumbsup:

I guess the £1500 - £2000 that is being charged at the moment for blue IG's cos as stated they are a "rare" colour (w00t) must be all that extra food & vaccs they obviously need because they are "blue" :wacko:

 

[AnnSa]

Im getting confused now, are we talking about blue whippets priced at £1500 -£2000,

or italians. We're in the whippets section are we not

or am i missing something.

As i said earlier i think its all getting a little too personal.

 

[posh totty]

i think you are missing the point of ECHO`s thread it was questioning the price of WHIPPETS @ £450 , so i have asked a bog standard general med size breed rough estimate about how much it costs to rear per puppy, including vaccs, then i asked for members to add on the cost of KC fees to the litter and see what figure is approx, this may then stop and make people think about breeding with the high costs of any litter be it 1 pup or 10, thats without the risks of whelping , im asking for a trouble free pregancy, and easy labour, also i forgot to ask the members to add the rough cost of a stud fee also to the total , is that clearer? :thumbsup:

 

[posh totty]

Im getting confused now, are we talking about blue whippets priced at £1500 -£2000,or italians. We're in the whippets section are we not

or am i missing something.

As i said earlier i think its all getting a little too personal.

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sorry ann i think nina was meaning igs at 1500-2000, yes the subject has gone off track a little and maybe mods could move then subjects to seperate sections of the forum? there are certain issues going on the italian world which are very questionable but thats another story! :thumbsup:

 

[jok]

Nobody - no matter how experienced can GUARANTEE a young puppy being show standard.
Show potential if you like, but we all know you are very lucky to get more than one REALLY GOOD show dog in most litters.

Having said that there are exceptions to the rule, and I do know a few.

Irene

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Then again, what are we calling "show standard"

99% can be entered at shows, some win, some don't, just depends on the Judge and nobody judges exactly the same, that's what makes the show game fun.

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I thought a lot of people would prefer their puppies to go to great pet homes - i would. Then you know that if they 'don't make the grade' it doesn't matter. I personally would worry like mad if a puppy went to be shown - i'd feel really bad if it didn't do as well as the new owner hoped.

Jax - im not saying newbie's should charge as much as the experienced people, just that we aren't all idiots and wouldn't go into it lightly to make a quick buck.

 

[EJW]

i am going to ask this question and i do ask it with no ill intentions at all , its just a question which im hoping you will all answer honestly , then im going to run for cover!!  :b
How much do you think the average puppy costs to rear til leats say 8 weeks, as you are all responsible breeder , also add the cost of vaccs too , disregard the kc reg etc etc, just plain rearing and vaccs , then after that total add on the kc payments please  :thumbsup:

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I was sold Georgia as a possible show potential puppy, but with no guarantees because no intelligent person can look into the future & be sure of a winner!

When I was looking for a puppy I checked with several reputable breeders & they all quoted me more or less the same price.

Less reputable people quoted me considerably more!

A genuine breeder cares more for the quality of the home & future welfare of the puppy rather rather than looking at the litter as a profit or loss making commodity!

No reputable, caring breeder would charge more than £450 for a bitch!

 

[posh totty]

ok i will start some of you whom are willing to answer, with a few of the basic costs of rearing a litter of say 6 ?

vet check for bitch pre mating , simple hands on look over = £27

stud fee approx £250

fresh bedding for bitch ie vet bed £40

see we are up to over £300 before a head has been passed!

food in pregancy and post whelp minimum 4x normal feeding costs!

puppy feeding = £ ?

continous washing and cleaning of bitch and puppy area, we all know the lay fresh newpapers , turn your back to put out paper out and the bad fairy lands! (w00t)

vacc approx £40 per pup x6 = 240

dewclaw removal per pup £ 10 x 6 = £60

so as you can see just by rough low figures any litter passing without any problems is a time consuming money draining exercise, those to me are just some of the very very basic minimum costs , then you have the endless calls to check the homes , the visits, the higher utility bills for all the extra washing drying etc, the list goes on so in this very simple plan the costs are over £600 before a pup has even tried to leave home! :thumbsup:

 

[posh totty]

i am going to ask this question and i do ask it with no ill intentions at all , its just a question which im hoping you will all answer honestly , then im going to run for cover!!  :b
How much do you think the average puppy costs to rear til leats say 8 weeks, as you are all responsible breeder , also add the cost of vaccs too , disregard the kc reg etc etc, just plain rearing and vaccs , then after that total add on the kc payments please  :thumbsup:

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I was sold Georgia as a possible show potential puppy, but with no guarantees because no intelligent person can look into the future & be sure of a winner!

When I was looking for a puppy I checked with several reputable breeders & they all quoted me more or less the same price.

Less reputable people quoted me considerably more!

A genuine breeder cares more for the quality of the home & future welfare of the puppy rather rather than looking at the litter as a profit or loss making commodity!

No reputable, caring breeder would charge more than £450 for a bitch!

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as most of us on here know that georgia :wub: is an an ig, i am assuming you are meaning £450 for an ig not a whippet? sorry emma but threads getting very confusing to people who dont know us all as well yet,

or are you saying no reputable whippet breeder would ask more then £450 for a pup :thumbsup:

 

[dolly]

Stud fee Approx £350, plus travelling to and from £35