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[maggiemay2]

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anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir...

 

[posh totty]

sorry but i feel programmes like this are needed to be shown , to show the general public and kids where our food comes from , they are slaughtered humanely and with the welfare standards we have in this country for food production , we should be grateful our food animals are treated this well , there is a whole series of these programmes , watch the calf one , the knackerman popping them off in the barn is a waste of a life!!! thank the low prices from abroad for ruining our meat production!!!! :rant: thankfully veal calf rearing is of a high standard here not in crates like abroad, british veal meat is still priced as demand is low but for the select london and suchlike expensive restruants, the milk cow has a calf a year to keep the yield high and male calves are classed as a by product and culled within 5 days of birth , at least they have a short but at least a little longer life before feeding us rather then be pet food or incinerated as waste, fair play to the farmers for seeing the benefits and generating extra income in a poor economic climate

i thank the BBC for being as bold and showing what goes on , that is a bold and responsible thing to do , im now about to eat veal again now the standards are raised, i have no problems eating meat or the slaughter in britain, however i will not eat foreign meat as welfare isnt high

how many kids do not know where meat comes from , even milk and eggs " comes from tescos!" they simply do not know, by seeing a programme as graphic , we are able to make our own balanced choices about which or what meat we will eat

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[nina]

anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir... 

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Have to say i agree with you totally, not that i even watched it but flicked over by mistake & damn well soon flicked off

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who really dont care how an animal is killed or what it suffers providing it ends up on their plate.

As there is also a high percentage of people who enjoy killing animals for the sheer fun of it whether it be deers, badgers, foxes etc, watching them being ripped to shreds & thoroughly enjoying it i guess this programme would be happily accepted by those people.

So just my personal view that i agree with you :thumbsup:

 

[maggiemay2]

i do agree totally that everyone should be aware of where their food comes from.

TBH i really dont know what i was expecting, as i say i lived on a farm for many years and my dad used to breed and slaughter newzealand white rabbits and chickens for eating.

I was just a little shocked at seeing the lamb still wriggling around after it had been shot and had its throat cut. Thinking about it I think i was more shocked with my feelings having seen it slaugtered.

i'm babbling a bit now aint i....

 

[posh totty]

i do agree totally that everyone should be aware of where their food comes from.
TBH i really dont know what i was expecting, as i say i lived on a farm for many years and my dad used to breed and slaughter newzealand white rabbits and chickens for eating.

I was just a little shocked at seeing the lamb still wriggling around after it had been shot and had its throat cut. Thinking about it I think i was more shocked with my feelings having seen it slaugtered.

i'm babbling a bit now aint i.... 

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no you are not babbling, you just didnt know what happened and now you do? i was brought up on home raised animals and what was caught by our dogs , its a sad world we live in when people do not realise what goes on to get the meat to our plates, we happily wear leather, and use glue etc , yet have you ever stopped to think where they come from? thankfully britain has one of the highest welfare standards in farming and all that can do is benefit the animals, all slaughter houses have to have a vet present at every point and if there is any cruelty or abuse action is taken,

the wriggling is caused by the reflex action of nerves, any person having had a horse put down by the gun will have seen the same , a far more humane and painless end then an injection, having held my own during both actions , the gun was more distressing to me but the injection took far longer , therefore imo my animal suffered coz i didnt have the guts the 2nd time to go back to the gun , hence when i had zola put down last year i went back to the gun and held her whilst she was shot

no death should be lingered, any death such be swift and no im not against hunting, nature itself it one big cull, nothing more sad than watching the lions on the plains of africa taking a baby and eating it almost alive

if more people knew the truth behind slaughter in britain then we could all make a choice whether to eat meat or not , anyone who is against the killing of animals for food should stop using leather goods and any animal by product goods or they are making their stand and going against what that are supposed to be against?? is it ok to use products made from animals even if you dont eat the meat? that animal still died for food production and you are using those products , thats hypocritical imo :wacko:

 

[posh totty]

anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir... 

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Have to say i agree with you totally, not that i even watched it but flicked over by mistake & damn well soon flicked off

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who really dont care how an animal is killed or what it suffers providing it ends up on their plate.

As there is also a high percentage of people who enjoy killing animals for the sheer fun of it whether it be deers, badgers, foxes etc, watching them being ripped to shreds & thoroughly enjoying it i guess this programme would be happily accepted by those people.

So just my personal view that i agree with you :thumbsup:

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so you didnt see the programme? and you havent seen any of the series? so you dont know what the programme was trying to show then? :wacko:

it was showing from farm to to slaughter house, the handling then the humane slaughter of the animals, then the skinning process through to the butchering , various cuts of meat and what they are used for , then the meat was served to a varied range of studio audience members , whom then were asked how they felt watching the whole process, in the last series a veggie actually turned ack to eating meat as he didnt understand the process and had thought it was cruel , after witnessing first hand the true process not assumed, he happily tucked in with a smile :thumbsup:

the animals hunted you stated are in fact illegal to hunt now with dogs and are despatched by guns , rats and rabbits are still legal :thumbsup: and yes i work my whippets and my sons are often with me and we eat what we catch, no waste , the ferrets and dogs are fed on what we dont eat :thumbsup: whippets doing what they are bred to do

 

[nina]

anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir... 

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Have to say i agree with you totally, not that i even watched it but flicked over by mistake & damn well soon flicked off

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who really dont care how an animal is killed or what it suffers providing it ends up on their plate.

As there is also a high percentage of people who enjoy killing animals for the sheer fun of it whether it be deers, badgers, foxes etc, watching them being ripped to shreds & thoroughly enjoying it i guess this programme would be happily accepted by those people.

So just my personal view that i agree with you :thumbsup:

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so you didnt see the programme? and you havent seen any of the series? so you dont know what the programme was trying to show then? :wacko:

it was showing from farm to to slaughter house, the handling then the humane slaughter of the animals, then the skinning process through to the butchering , various cuts of meat and what they are used for , then the meat was served to a varied range of studio audience members , whom then were asked how they felt watching the whole process, in the last series a veggie actually turned ack to eating meat as he didnt understand the process and had thought it was cruel , after witnessing first hand the true process not assumed, he happily tucked in with a smile :thumbsup:

the animals hunted you stated are in fact illegal to hunt now with dogs and are despatched by guns , rats and rabbits are still legal :thumbsup: and yes i work my whippets and my sons are often with me and we eat what we catch, no waste , the ferrets and dogs are fed on what we dont eat :thumbsup: whippets doing what they are bred to do

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I was replying to the original poster, i have NOTHING to discuss with you.

I merely ignore your posts, perhaps you should learn to do the same. End of

 

[posh totty]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (w00t)

 

[Trish]

anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir... 

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Have to say i agree with you totally, not that i even watched it but flicked over by mistake & damn well soon flicked off

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who really dont care how an animal is killed or what it suffers providing it ends up on their plate.

As there is also a high percentage of people who enjoy killing animals for the sheer fun of it whether it be deers, badgers, foxes etc, watching them being ripped to shreds & thoroughly enjoying it i guess this programme would be happily accepted by those people.

So just my personal view that i agree with you :thumbsup:

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i agree with your every word there nina. :thumbsup:

and thats my personal view :thumbsup:

 

[Janimal]

I thought the programme was excellent.. too many people eat meat and arnt bothered where it comes from and how its killed.

The lamb wriggling, was its nerves in the body nothing sinister.

I think its how the animals are reared that counts for me, and be humanely killed.

The only problem I had with the programe was young lambs (spring lamb) being killed....but its the people that are demanding it and eating it that demands the market.

it was good to hear some farmers and even butchers saying they dont condone this practice.

I think everyone should see where there meat comes from...children too.

Its gone away from the old days in my opinion, where animals were kept and slaughtered for meat on a regular basis. It was allowed to be done on the premises and not quite as humane as today.

 

[kris]

anyone watching this at the moment and as put off meat as i am now???

I'm from a farming background but im still shocked at the killing of an animal in the abatoir... 

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Have to say i agree with you totally, not that i even watched it but flicked over by mistake & damn well soon flicked off

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who really dont care how an animal is killed or what it suffers providing it ends up on their plate.

As there is also a high percentage of people who enjoy killing animals for the sheer fun of it whether it be deers, badgers, foxes etc, watching them being ripped to shreds & thoroughly enjoying it i guess this programme would be happily accepted by those people.

So just my personal view that i agree with you :thumbsup:

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i agree with your every word there nina. :thumbsup:

and thats my personal view :thumbsup:

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same here too i agree with what youre saying. :thumbsup: as for the farmers who rear these animals it alway surprises me how many farmers are vegetarians and wont eat meat. :blink: a lot of cattle are fed steroids(growth promoters) and i think thats got a lot to do with the health problems we have these days.it seems to me that were suffering a lot more cancers and other diseases than we did years ago and although i cant prove this has anything to do with growth promoters and the crap they give to a lot of animals i find myself eating so little red meat these days that i may as well be vegetarian

 

[Janimal]

Personally I think the deseases are more linked to some of the processed crap people eat

If people boycotted all these cheaper cuts....and supermarkets stopped promoting it (which wont happen) .....No wonder there arnt that many good butchers about these days.

Hopefully its starting to happen with chicken...but it should be all meats. and I am not vegetarian and never will be.

 

[posh totty]

Personally I think the deseases are more linked to some of the processed crap people eat
If people boycotted all these cheaper cuts....and supermarkets stopped promoting it (which wont happen)  No wonder there arnt that many good butchers aout these days.

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this is where the programme came into its own , it highlighted how they were raised and the good conditions that are now expected, the it that upset me was the piglet one and how awful they were treated abroad

the desire to eat cheaper meat brings about animal welfare issues and i for one applaud being british , the programme did show graphic scenes of animal treatment abroad and how we get our cheap meat, BUY FREEDOM FOODS FROM BRITAIN!!!! dont condone the abuse for our pockets!!!!

janis im lucky , all my dog meat and our family meat comes from a traditional butchers , which i support for my views, it is my choice to eat meat but i dont want suffering or potential diseases in the animals i eat, therefore i uphold my values y buying from traditional butchers where i know where the meat comes from

hugh fernley whatshis name , tried to highlight this with the chicken out campaign, now if some of you feel so strongly , then do as he has done and make a stand , buy only british from local or traditional sources

 

[billyboy45]

If you lived where i am at the moment,you would'nt think too much of the farmer's,when they start spreading sloury on the other side of you're fence,as the smell here today is awful,and most people have left their home's for the day because of it.But these thing's must be done,so that grass will grow,for the Cow's to eat.This is natural manure,and not the crap that come's out of bag's,with God know's what in it.I dont eat red meat much,unless in the form of a burger,which was made in my local butcher's,as then i know what's in there.Ive seen 1st hand,how drop calf's,as they are called get killed.Ive seen them skinned,using a car's tow hitch to pull the skin off.I was there one day,when there was a big kill of calf's being done,and one came over to me and started sucking my finger's.It was a lovely blue one,and the bloke just came over and put a shot through it's head,while my finger's were still in it's mouth,and siad it wont bother you none now.I could have taken it home with me,it was a beautiful wee thing.I was nearly sick that day,and did'nt go back for some time.All the carcasses were burned,and the skin's went away for whatever they were being used for.I used to cut the hind leg's off the carcasses,and i reared the strongest litter of whippetxgreyhoung pup's ive ever seen on them.I would take 40+leg's a fortnight with me,and the pup's and adult dog's were like Pit Bull Terrier's.They ate bone n all.Then came foot n mouth,and that was that.

 

[raceylady]

Here here Tan, go girl..!!! :thumbsup:

 

[posh totty]

you have just made a good advert for the eating of veal calves billy , why waste good meat???? i feel saddened and sickened that "bobby calves" are culled at 1-5 days old as they are WASTE!!!! feed them on milk and allow them a short ut happy life :thumbsup:

 

[Janimal]

Why does everyone slag farmers off I wonder? :unsure:

they are doing a good job raising and fattening our food. Without them there would be a vaste difference in the landscape etc. If everyone turned veggie...the consequences would be devastating to the environment.

personally I dont know any farmers round here that are vegetarian, because they would be putting the nail in their own coffin as far as they are concerned.

 

[posh totty]

Why does everyone slag farmers off I wonder? :unsure: they are doing a good job raising and fattening our food.  Without them there would be  a vaste difference in the landscape etc. If everyone turned veggie...the consequences would be devastating to the environment.

personally I dont know any farmers round here that are vegetarian, because they would be putting the nail in their own coffin as far as they are concerned.

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quite simply because they are ignorant and choose not to see facts

 

[kris]

i dont THINK im an ignorant person but if you say so then of course i must be

 

[posh totty]

(w00t) i wasnt aware id named you but if ya say so :thumbsup: