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[milly]

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Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Been there, done that, bought the T-Shirt

 

[Paws123]

Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. You put mouse breeding in question , then 2 other people came forward and said she was breed from what you thought  sugar firex  greyhound ..theres plenty of that litter available to DNA test with the owners permission ..this will prove one way or the other if mouse is from the same litter ...no need for parents

You also have had the chance to come to 2 meetings with the NNWRF to sort this matter out, 2nd one you asked for your accusers to be present , which they were...you felt fit not to attend either , personally if i were in your shoes i would jump at the chance of proving people wrong that were accusing me  :thumbsup:

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Obviously you know Jack sh*t about DNA testing.

I do not have to have any DNA test done because it's not in your rules and constitution!!

I will not bow down to the likes of you lot, when I know full well how she is bred myself.

Look at the advert!

Innocent until proven guilty

Regarding me not attending your last inquisition, I'd already sent you proof,in the form of the advert.

Why should I go and be humiliated in front of a set of people who I don't trust or respect?

Would you have liked me to have come and lost my temper again?

Well I had no intentions of giving you the pleasure.

Once bitten , twice shy

Plus, why would I want to go against the advice of my solicitor :wacko:

How do you know I'm not in the process of having a DNA test done?

And it won't be for your benefit,who on earth do you think you are?

Don't tell me what's right or wrong,you lot should have gone to the POLICE when you knew we'd had our money stolen :rant:

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Please re-read my post i said Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. No where did i say it was compulsory

Any way you caused all this by sending a letter into the NNWRF stating you think you had made a mistake ... at the time i thought it was strange , and i now find it even stranger ... as you have given so many excuses for putting a question mark over Sugar mouses breeding ..its hard to follow which one is the truth reason

1st off you stated I have to confess that I may have made an error when registering Sugar Mouse. At the time we had Sugar Mouse we had two litters, one was my greyhound Maggie's by Sugar Fire and the other was an accidental mating of our Maisy Grey and Sugar Daddy. 1 did not make a fuss about the litters at the time as no one likes to admit they have made these mistakes.

2nd you stated And now there are all these allegations flying about with people saying that full greyhounds are being fraudulently registered as non peds and as I'm sure you are aware Mouses name has been mentioned in passing

3rd you stated you put a question over mouse breeding to see who the people where accusing you of breeding wrong and causing trouble in your personal life (set a sprat to catch a mackerel)

Sorry Geoff you made all theres allocations regarding your dogs breeding and then expected us to say your okay we will correct it in the NNWRF registration books ...doesnt matter about the things you have won and deprived the rightful dogs of there honors

Come on get real do you really believe the committee are interested in anyone calling you or your dogs or your personal life ... we just asked you to clear the breeding and date of birth up and if a mistake was made hand the winnings and trophy over to the right owners .. you are the one thats blown the whole issue up into what it has become now ...grow up or own up ...

 

[Paws123]

Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

 

[milly]

Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. You put mouse breeding in question , then 2 other people came forward and said she was breed from what you thought  sugar firex  greyhound ..theres plenty of that litter available to DNA test with the owners permission ..this will prove one way or the other if mouse is from the same litter ...no need for parents

You also have had the chance to come to 2 meetings with the NNWRF to sort this matter out, 2nd one you asked for your accusers to be present , which they were...you felt fit not to attend either , personally if i were in your shoes i would jump at the chance of proving people wrong that were accusing me  :thumbsup:

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Obviously you know Jack sh*t about DNA testing.

I do not have to have any DNA test done because it's not in your rules and constitution!!

I will not bow down to the likes of you lot, when I know full well how she is bred myself.

Look at the advert!

Innocent until proven guilty

Regarding me not attending your last inquisition, I'd already sent you proof,in the form of the advert.

Why should I go and be humiliated in front of a set of people who I don't trust or respect?

Would you have liked me to have come and lost my temper again?

Well I had no intentions of giving you the pleasure.

Once bitten , twice shy

Plus, why would I want to go against the advice of my solicitor :wacko:

How do you know I'm not in the process of having a DNA test done?

And it won't be for your benefit,who on earth do you think you are?

Don't tell me what's right or wrong,you lot should have gone to the POLICE when you knew we'd had our money stolen :rant:

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Please re-read my post i said Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. No where did i say it was compulsory

Any way you caused all this by sending a letter into the NNWRF stating you think you had made a mistake ... at the time i thought it was strange , and i now find it even stranger ... as you have given so many excuses for putting a question mark over Sugar mouses breeding ..its hard to follow which one is the truth reason

1st off you stated I have to confess that I may have made an error when registering Sugar Mouse. At the time we had Sugar Mouse we had two litters, one was my greyhound Maggie's by Sugar Fire and the other was an accidental mating of our Maisy Grey and Sugar Daddy. 1 did not make a fuss about the litters at the time as no one likes to admit they have made these mistakes.

2nd you stated And now there are all these allegations flying about with people saying that full greyhounds are being fraudulently registered as non peds and as I'm sure you are aware Mouses name has been mentioned in passing

3rd you stated you put a question over mouse breeding to see who the people where accusing you of breeding wrong and causing trouble in your personal life (set a sprat to catch a mackerel)

Sorry Geoff you made all theres allocations regarding your dogs breeding and then expected us to say your okay we will correct it in the NNWRF registration books ...doesnt matter about the thing you have won and deprived the rightful dogs of there honors

Come on get real do you really believe the committee are interested in anyone calling you or your dogs or your personal life ... we just asked you to clear the breeding and date of birth up and if a mistake was made hand the winnings and trophy over to the right owners .. you are the one thats blown the whole issue up into what it has become now ...grow up or own up ...

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Firstly ,I do not think it is appropriate to be quoting personal letters which were sent into your self elected committee.

If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackeral

and lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

 

[milly]

Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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but the dam must be DNA tested aswell as the sire & the sibling :wacko:

 

[Paws123]

Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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but the dam must be DNA tested aswell as the sire & the sibling :wacko:

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not according to the vets

2 dogs out of same litter can be proved if they are same breeding 3 or 4 tested out of same litter is even better :thumbsup:

 

[milly]

To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring,dam, and every possible sire, a parentage test is not possible without all these samples

You don't know Jack Sh*t :lol:

 

[sonnyk]

Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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but the dam must be DNA tested aswell as the sire & the sibling :wacko:

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why dont you go back to running lurchers :rant:

 

[milly]

Notes for sample submission for Canine Parentage Testing
1. To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring (puppy), the dam (mother) and every possible sire.  A parentage test is not possible without all of these samples.

2. If a litter of puppies are being tested, a sample is needed from every single puppy (it is possible for puppies in one litter to have different fathers).

3. The results issued only apply to the animals tested.  Parentage for animals we have not tested (whether they are littermate of the puppy tested, or another possible sire to the puppy), cannot be inferred based on our results.

4. The samples submitted for each animal can be either 2-3mls whole blood in an EDTA tube, OR mouth swabs supplied by the Animal Health Trust.  We can only accept either all blood samples, or all mouth swabs for canine parentage testing

(a mixture of bloods and swabs for one parentage case is not acceptable).  Blood in any other type of tube, and swabs from

any other source, will not be accepted.

5. Blood samples should be taken by a vet, who will need to sign the submission form, therefore confirming the identity of the animals in question.

6. A blood sample may be taken from an animal of any age, providing the vet is willing to take a sample at that age.

7. Mouth swabs can be taken by anybody, following the instructions supplied with the kits.

8. Before taking the swabs, puppies need to be weaned.  We normally recommend waiting until the puppy is 4 weeks old before using the swabs.

9. Each animal to be swabbed needs to be separated both from food and other animals for 2 hours prior to taking the samples (however each animal may have its own fresh water supply during this time).  This is to help prevent cross contamination between the samples.

10. When taking the swab samples, first rinse the animal’s mouth out with water.

11. 3 swabs are provided for each animal – these all need to be used.

12. After swabbing the inside of the dog’s mouth, air dry the swabs then place directly inside the paper envelope provided.  Fill out the submission form and envelope whilst waiting.  Discard the plastic bag and tubes that the swabs are sent out in – do not return the swabs in the plastic (if you do return them in plastic, they will not yield a result).

13. When filling in the submission form, write the dam’s KC-registered name (or a pet name if she is not KC registered) and her swab kit number (if swabs are being submitted) on the line marked ‘Name of Dam’.

14. Write each sire’s KC registered name and his swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Sire(s)’.

15. Write each puppy’s name (or, if the puppies are not yet registered, a unique description) and their swab kit number in the section marked ‘Name of Pup(s)’.

16. Make sure that the names or descriptions given on the submission form are also filled in on the corresponding swab envelopes or blood tubes.

17. Payment of £21 per animal should be included with the submission form.  Results will not be issued without payment.

Thats the way to do it :thumbsup:  

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Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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but the dam must be DNA tested aswell as the sire & the sibling :wacko:

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why dont you go back to running lurchers :rant:

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:lol: I'm having too much fun doing what I'm doing thank you

 

[johnnoble]

quote:why dont you go back to running lurchers

They wouldnt have him back.

 

[johnnoble]

quote:why dont you go back to running lurchers

They wouldnt have him back.

 

[johnnoble]

quote:why dont you go back to running lurchers

They wouldnt have him back.

 

[Paws123]

Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. You put mouse breeding in question , then 2 other people came forward and said she was breed from what you thought  sugar firex  greyhound ..theres plenty of that litter available to DNA test with the owners permission ..this will prove one way or the other if mouse is from the same litter ...no need for parents

You also have had the chance to come to 2 meetings with the NNWRF to sort this matter out, 2nd one you asked for your accusers to be present , which they were...you felt fit not to attend either , personally if i were in your shoes i would jump at the chance of proving people wrong that were accusing me  :thumbsup:

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Obviously you know Jack sh*t about DNA testing.

I do not have to have any DNA test done because it's not in your rules and constitution!!

I will not bow down to the likes of you lot, when I know full well how she is bred myself.

Look at the advert!

Innocent until proven guilty

Regarding me not attending your last inquisition, I'd already sent you proof,in the form of the advert.

Why should I go and be humiliated in front of a set of people who I don't trust or respect?

Would you have liked me to have come and lost my temper again?

Well I had no intentions of giving you the pleasure.

Once bitten , twice shy

Plus, why would I want to go against the advice of my solicitor :wacko:

How do you know I'm not in the process of having a DNA test done?

And it won't be for your benefit,who on earth do you think you are?

Don't tell me what's right or wrong,you lot should have gone to the POLICE when you knew we'd had our money stolen :rant:

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Please re-read my post i said Why not just have a DNA test done ...that way all this crap can be put to bed , most people are sick of hearing about it now .. me included .. No where did i say it was compulsory

Any way you caused all this by sending a letter into the NNWRF stating you think you had made a mistake ... at the time i thought it was strange , and i now find it even stranger ... as you have given so many excuses for putting a question mark over Sugar mouses breeding ..its hard to follow which one is the truth reason

1st off you stated I have to confess that I may have made an error when registering Sugar Mouse. At the time we had Sugar Mouse we had two litters, one was my greyhound Maggie's by Sugar Fire and the other was an accidental mating of our Maisy Grey and Sugar Daddy. 1 did not make a fuss about the litters at the time as no one likes to admit they have made these mistakes.

2nd you stated And now there are all these allegations flying about with people saying that full greyhounds are being fraudulently registered as non peds and as I'm sure you are aware Mouses name has been mentioned in passing

3rd you stated you put a question over mouse breeding to see who the people where accusing you of breeding wrong and causing trouble in your personal life (set a sprat to catch a mackerel)

Sorry Geoff you made all theres allocations regarding your dogs breeding and then expected us to say your okay we will correct it in the NNWRF registration books ...doesnt matter about the thing you have won and deprived the rightful dogs of there honors

Come on get real do you really believe the committee are interested in anyone calling you or your dogs or your personal life ... we just asked you to clear the breeding and date of birth up and if a mistake was made hand the winnings and trophy over to the right owners .. you are the one thats blown the whole issue up into what it has become now ...grow up or own up ...

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If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackeral

and lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

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With all due respect Geoff what has Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackerel

and lo & behold it worked. got to do with you sending a letter into the NNWRF putting your dogs breeding and date of birth into disrepute

Also i would say its down to you to prove your dogs breeding not us

 

[Tony Taylor]

Re opened.

Please be civil. I'm not going to nursemaid anyone repling on this thread so don't bother pm-ing me over every little perceived slight on whats a potentialy inflammatory topic. Anyone over the top on this thread may well find they're suspended without prior warning.

It's reopened because the OP is the subject matter and wishing to publicaly air the issue is double edged IMO

 

[Paws123]

To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring,dam, and every possible sire, a parentage test is not possible without all these samples

You don't know Jack Sh*t :lol:

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You could be right Ive never need to know...only can state what Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary email me back over when i asked them the question below

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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@ Geoff will re ask this question as i am finding it hard to see where gaz posts had anything to do with you sending the letter in to com

If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackereland lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

With all due respect Geoff what has Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackerel

and lo & behold it worked. got to do with you sending a letter into the NNWRF putting your dogs breeding and date of birth into disrepute

 

[milly]

To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring,dam, and every possible sire, a parentage test is not possible without all these samples

You don't know Jack Sh*t :lol:

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You could be right Ive never need to know...only can state what Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary email me back over when i asked them the question below

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

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@ Geoff will re ask this question as i am finding it hard to see where gaz posts had anything to do with you sending the letter in to com

If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackereland lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

With all due respect Geoff what has Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackerel

and lo & behold it worked. got to do with you sending a letter into the NNWRF putting your dogs breeding and date of birth into disrepute

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People do lots of things that don't make sense to other people.

Like why does it take someone 2 years before they put a complaint in about the breeding of a dog. :wacko:

Why does someone mate a bitch with 2 stud dogs :wacko:

Why does someone's friend send out pm s calling them dodgey breeder, and let it be known that they are schooling a full bred greyhound that is going to be registered as a non-ped. :wacko:

Why do people allow money to be stolen and not inform the POLICE :wacko:

Why did I put a question mark over my dogs breeding, why, because I needed to know who was the one's spreading the rumours, and now I know :thumbsup:

SET A SPRAT TO CATCH A MACKERAL

 

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

 

[Paws123]

To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring,dam, and every possible sire, a parentage test is not possible without all these samples

You don't know Jack Sh*t :lol:

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You could be right Ive never need to know...only can state what Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary email me back over when i asked them the question below

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@ Geoff will re ask this question as i am finding it hard to see where gaz posts had anything to do with you sending the letter in to com

If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackereland lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

With all due respect Geoff what has Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackerel

and lo & behold it worked. got to do with you sending a letter into the NNWRF putting your dogs breeding and date of birth into disrepute

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

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People do lots of things that don't make sense to other people.

Like why does it take someone 2 years before they put a complaint in about the breeding of a dog. :wacko:

Why does someone mate a bitch with 2 stud dogs :wacko:

Why does someone's friend send out pm s calling them dodgey breeder, and let it be known that they are schooling a full bred greyhound that is going to be registered as a non-ped. :wacko:

Why do people allow money to be stolen and not inform the POLICE :wacko:

Why did I put a question mark over my dogs breeding, why, because I needed to know who was the one's spreading the rumours, and now I know :thumbsup:

SET A SPRAT TO CATCH A MACKERAL

 

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

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But Geoff all these thing could of been sorted through the committee without you feeling the need to put your dogs breeding into disputed with both organizations ...

committee are hopefully there in place to deal with members complaints ... and i am sure there was one or two on the fed committee you could of trusted with these complaints

Its just all very strange to me that you felt the need to cause all this bad feeling and trouble to prove your points

I can how ever add i did make a post on k9 in a topic think breeding ..that i was fully aware of the owners and greyhound certain people where going to try and register ...on which i was slated by a k0 member for posting me been on a committee and all that ... I can assure you these people would not of get away with it even if they where friends or NNWRF committee

Regarding Bellwood's , Ive already posted in other post about the situation that surrounded them ...you were a committee person at the time decisions where made , you and all the committee saw what literature i had off the bank , you and all the committee agree as to how we the committee felt it should of been dealt with then... this topic is about sugar mouse and the situation surrounding it at present ...

Nothing else i will only post about the situation at hand , and try to find out where this all went wrong , hopefully for you to add your side of it and me to add mine also ...no lies will be posted on my behalf

You say INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY i say you set the seed its up to you to prove it

 

[mutley]

why not have dna done sort it out but with an official present ,you think i or any of the committee have made it personal you are wrong it could and should of been sorted out by now instead you continue to do nothing but try to put the fed down ,for the sake of the sport sort it out.

 

[milly]

To confirm the parentage of any given dog, we will need a sample from the offspring,dam, and every possible sire, a parentage test is not possible without all these samples

You don't know Jack Sh*t :lol:

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You could be right Ive never need to know...only can state what Randall Smith

DDC Veterinary email me back over when i asked them the question below

Ive 2 dogs i would like DNA tested , i believe there both from the same litter , would it be possible to DNA test them both to see if they were from the same stud dog ...

Reply : We could determine if the 2 dogs are from the same stud

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@ Geoff will re ask this question as i am finding it hard to see where gaz posts had anything to do with you sending the letter in to com

If you read the topic where your friend Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackereland lo & behold it worked.

I do things my way, no-one pulls my strings, and to be honest I don't care who believes me,or who doesn't,I have nothing to prove.

Innocent until proven guilty

With all due respect Geoff what has Gary Farmer, publicly accuses Sugar Daddy of being on drugs you will see in one of my posts what my intentions were, regarding Set a sprat to catch a mackerel

and lo & behold it worked. got to do with you sending a letter into the NNWRF putting your dogs breeding and date of birth into disrepute

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

​

People do lots of things that don't make sense to other people.

Like why does it take someone 2 years before they put a complaint in about the breeding of a dog. :wacko:

Why does someone mate a bitch with 2 stud dogs :wacko:

Why does someone's friend send out pm s calling them dodgey breeder, and let it be known that they are schooling a full bred greyhound that is going to be registered as a non-ped. :wacko:

Why do people allow money to be stolen and not inform the POLICE :wacko:

Why did I put a question mark over my dogs breeding, why, because I needed to know who was the one's spreading the rumours, and now I know :thumbsup:

SET A SPRAT TO CATCH A MACKERAL

 

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

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But Geoff all these thing could of been sorted through the committee without you feeling the need to put your dogs breeding into disputed with both organizations ...

committee are hopefully there in place to deal with members complaints ... and i am sure there was one or two on the fed committee you could of trusted with these complaints

Its just all very strange to me that you felt the need to cause all this bad feeling and trouble to prove your points

I can how ever add i did make a post on k9 in a topic think breeding ..that i was fully aware of the owners and greyhound certain people where going to try and register ...on which i was slated by a k0 member for posting me been on a committee and all that ... I can assure you these people would not of get away with it even if they where friends or NNWRF committee

Regarding Bellwood's , Ive already posted in other post about the situation that surrounded them ...you were a committee person at the time decisions where made , you and all the committee saw what literature i had off the bank , you and all the committee agree as to how we the committee felt it should of been dealt with then... this topic is about sugar mouse and the situation surrounding it at present ...

Nothing else i will only post about the situation at hand , and try to find out where this all went wrong , hopefully for you to add your side of it and me to add mine also ...no lies will be posted on my behalf

You say INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY i say you set the seed its up to you to prove it

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Your just waffling on because you can't find me guilty :thumbsup: I've given my side of the story :thumbsup: and you can accept it or not, I don't really care.

We won't be renewing our membership with the fed, so chill out.

END OF :thumbsup:

 

[mutley]

i rest my case