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nina said:
Moral of this story................................I now NEVER just trust my gut instinct cos there could always be someone out there that could totally take you in.
I agree totally. I have also been terribly disappointed in people who turned out to be somebody totally different than they presented to me when we first met. Thankfully I did not have quite such a bad experience with a puppy buyer, as yet. Only one pup, that I thought went to a perfect home, was passed on to someone else within couple of months, despite my insistence that she will be returned to me. Fortunately the new home was a very good one (i was in touch with her new ownwers for the reast of her life).

But that is the problem with conman, they know what to say and when, and how to charm people.

I did have, though, the opposite experience when I allowed a pup to go to home I was not feeling 100% sure. The people were very young couple, she was still in UNI and I felt a Great Dane was not what they need, but after couple of weeks of them visiting, I let them have the pup under the condition they will bring him back if they cannot cope. Well, that dog had the best home, lived till he was 13. My daughter was a flower girl at their wedding and we are still good friends after 30+ years.
 
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*Lesley* said:
I haven't got to that stage yet and I think it will be really hard, in an ideal world I would like to go to people who will be at home with them all day so they don't get lonely, take them to the vets at the slightest sign of illness and buy them lovely soft bedding a warm coat lots of toys ect ect unfortunatley the two of these things the stay at home carer and the luxuries aren't always possible because in order to have vet care and luxuries people have to work, I for one do although only part time it's what makes the difference to be able to supply these things and pay for diesel for racing and subs ect, although it would be nicer to stay at home :D

I think by only considering people who are at home all day I would be narrowing the choice of good homes down, and after all I wouldn't have mine if that were the case just my oppinion :)


I can see your point absolutely & i would not be against anyone who had to work part time or a few hours a day, as we all have to go out at some point & do shopping or whatever.

If it was someone who had to do a couple of mornings or afternoons then thats not so bad, but there is still no way i would want to home a puppy to a home where it was going to be left 5 days a week from 9-5pm, not in a million years.

I have found homes that have suited me where by either the wife was home all day or just did a couple of hours a week or one or other worked from home or was semi retired.

I'm not digging at ANYONE or saying what is right or what is wrong, only what works for me personally.
 
:) There's quite a difference between working part-time, or working full-time and being able to adjust your hours so that you're at home sometimes... and working full time when young puppies might be left for 9-10 hours a day (an 8-hour day plus travel time). I think most k9-ers that I know have the right balance, and work things out to suit their circumstances and their dogs :)

I pretty sure Nina's not discriminating against people who work. She just wants the best for her pups. I would too. If a person is not in a position to be at home some of the time and deal fairly with their dog, they should consider getting a cat. That's my view :b

It's nothing to do with being "lucky enough not to work" and everything to do with individual circumstances which are in the best interests of the animal concerned. I chose not to have a dog when OH and I were out at work all day. We had cats instead. Now I work full time, but I have an office at home where I work every day - and I have a houseful of cats, children, dogs and guinea pigs.

And sometimes when I'm racing from one feeding/tending/sorting out job to the next I ask myself "Why?" :lol: :clown:

This is a great thread - I'm really enjoying reading it :thumbsup:

sorry Nina - posting at the same time as you but my fingers are slower :- "
 
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I totally agree with Nina I wouldn't want my puppies to go to homes where they were left all day I don't think for a minute she's having a dig at anybody, I don't really like leaving mine for the hours I work especially as babies and I think it helps me the fact they are not on their own they have each other( so you see there's method in my madness :- " :teehee: )

Anyway I won't have the problem of vetting homes because I won't be able to part with any anyway (w00t) :lol:
 
I also worked full time - when I Had my old dog Chip and he was fully adjusted to that - used to come home on lunchtimes to walk him out ( I also had two small children then ),

These days I prefer to work part-time which is my choice - but for the people who do work full time, Im sure most make good arrangements for their pets, but agree its the ones who dont - and leave them all day at home without walking arrangments etc. Then if I were a breeder (which Im not) would probably object to that. But on the whole as long as the dogs are well cared for and healthy and enjoying life then surely this should be the main concern.

Can understad the breeders concerns - it must be a very worrying time, when they go off to their new homes.
 
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I have just had an enquiry from a lady re one of our rescue dogs, Aysha. Aysha is 5 and a steady dog. The lady works 9 - 5, 5 days a week - BUT, she lives at home and her mother works 3 days, part time only. My gut reaction is very good, I am going tomorrow afternoon with Aysha to see how she gets on with the other dog in the house. If I am happy and the dogs get on, Aysha will go to her new home on Saturday morning. I don't really like dogs going later in the day. They have all day to bond with their new family before everyone goes to bed and leaves them for the night.

I agree with the comments that gut reaction is only 99%, there are some good conmen out there.

[SIZE=14pt]BUT - I WOULD NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER ANYONE WHO REFUSED A HOME CHECK. IT IS VITAL FOR YOUR OWN PEACE OF MIND AND THE WELFARE OF THE DOG OR PUPPY.[/SIZE]
 
~Helen~ said:
:) There's quite a difference between working part-time, or working full-time and being able to adjust your hours so that you're at home sometimes... and working full time when young puppies might be left for 9-10 hours a day (an 8-hour day plus travel time). I think most k9-ers that I know have the right balance, and work things out to suit their circumstances and their dogs :)

I pretty sure Nina's not discriminating against people who work. She just wants the best for her pups. I would too. If a person is not in a position to be at home some of the time and deal fairly with their dog, they should consider getting a cat. That's my view :b

It's nothing to do with being "lucky enough not to work" and everything to do with individual circumstances which are in the best interests of the animal concerned. I chose not to have a dog when OH and I were out at work all day. We had cats instead. Now I work full time, but I have an office at home where I work every day - and I have a houseful of cats, children, dogs and guinea pigs.

And sometimes when I'm racing from one feeding/tending/sorting out job to the next I ask myself "Why?" :lol: :clown:

This is a great thread - I'm really enjoying reading it :thumbsup:

sorry Nina - posting at the same time as you but my fingers are slower :- "


:thumbsup: No i didn't mean it to sound like i was discriminating against anyone & apologise if thats the way it came across.

I'm sure most people who have to work, sort things out the best they can, coming home lunchtimes etc.

I for one would love not to have to work but as someone already stated in order to be able to pay for veterinary treatment & all the things we love to give our little ones unfortunately most of have to.

If i wasn't lucky enough to have someone home all day i think i would have to have a rethink on my lifestyle. I certainly could not part with any of mine but would not go out of my way to get any more youngsters & would try & reduce my hours in some way as well.
 
jools said:
I have just had an enquiry from a lady re one of our rescue dogs, Aysha. Aysha is 5 and a steady dog. The lady works 9 - 5, 5 days a week - BUT, she lives at home and her mother works 3  days, part time only. My gut reaction is very good, I am going tomorrow afternoon with Aysha to see how she gets on with the other dog in the house. If I am happy and the dogs get on, Aysha will go to her new home on Saturday morning. I don't really like dogs going later in the day. They have all day to bond with their new family before everyone goes to bed and leaves them for the night.I agree with the comments that gut reaction is only 99%, there are some good conmen out there.

[SIZE=14pt]BUT - I WOULD NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER ANYONE WHO REFUSED A HOME CHECK. IT IS VITAL FOR YOUR OWN PEACE OF MIND AND THE WELFARE OF THE DOG OR PUPPY.[/SIZE]

actually i was refused a rescue dog once on account of the fact i would not allow them to meet my son...i fitted all the other criteria and welcomed any checks...home or otherwise ...and i felt they missed a good home because of their inability to be flexible :(
 
jools said:
I have just had an enquiry from a lady re one of our rescue dogs, Aysha. Aysha is 5 and a steady dog. The lady works 9 - 5, 5 days a week - BUT, she lives at home and her mother works 3 days, part time only. My gut reaction is very good, I am going tomorrow afternoon with Aysha to see how she gets on with the other dog in the house. If I am happy and the dogs get on, Aysha will go to her new home on Saturday morning. I don't really like dogs going later in the day. They have all day to bond with their new family before everyone goes to bed and leaves them for the night.

I agree with the comments that gut reaction is only 99%, there are some good conmen out there.

[SIZE=14pt]BUT - I WOULD NEVER EVER EVEN CONSIDER ANYONE WHO REFUSED A HOME CHECK. IT IS VITAL FOR YOUR OWN PEACE OF MIND AND THE WELFARE OF THE DOG OR PUPPY.[/SIZE]


:luck: :luck: Lots of luck for Aysha. Sounds ideal for her, fingers crossed
 
This is a really interesting thread, and sometimes we have to go with our instincts and hope we can read people well.

13 years ago I had a litter of pups. A lady rang me and asked if there were any pups available. I told her I had a fawn bitch, and she said she was exactly what she wanted, and had been waiting for a fawn bitch for ages. I spoke to her for a long long time, and the more I spoke to her, the better she sounded - lived on a farm with loads of land, already had a male whippet, was home with the pup all day etc. She sent me a deposit, and asked me to keep the pup for her. She rang every few days to see how her pup was doing. After a couple of weeks the alarm bells started ringing. She had already mentioned that she used to have 2 Jack Russells, but they now lived with her mother - she then mentioned that she had two Rhodesian Ridgebacks, two Springer Spaniels, two of this and two of that, and a pot bellied pig!! I got it into my head that as she already had a male whippet, my dear little pup was going to a puppy farm. I didn't know what to do, this woman had been so friendly on the phone, and was so excited to be getting a fawn bitch. I talked to my husband, and we decided to tell her straight. I rang her and said that I apologised if I was wrong, but as she had two of each breed, I was worried that she would be having the pup just to breed from, and that it was very stressful finding homes for pups, and that I had to be 100% sure. She was very upset to say the least :rant:

I sent her a letter apologising again, and refunded her deposit. I felt so relieved once I had got it over with. She sent me a lettertelling me how wrong I was, and photos of her animals, they were all over the furniture looking happy with the pot bellied pig! - the situation could have been a good one, I could have been wrong - who knows? but I had to go with my instincts.

The pup (Minnie) went to a fantastic home in Barnsley - couldn't have wished for better! I still have photos every Christmas. So I might have hurt the other ladies feelings, but at least I feel I was right with my decision.
 
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What a difficult situation, but you did the right thing, there was a shadow of doubt, so better safe than sorry. Who's to say that her dogs didn't lead wonderful lives in the house - but still had litter after litter.
 
Sorry, I also meant to say[SIZE=14pt] what a brilliant thread this is [/SIZE]- everyone reading it can learn such a lot from it. :)

[SIZE=14pt]Keep the good ideas coming Dawn.[/SIZE] :thumbsup:
 
i know this is like 2 years old ,but wat a good thread :thumbsup:
 
Yes 'tis good. I think I'll add it to FAQ :thumbsup:
 
Oh :lol: so I wasn't the only one Mod to think it was worthy :D
 
Judy said:
Oh  :lol:   so I wasn't the only one Mod to think it was worthy  :D

Just something to think about people can work full time and have children no questions asked but cant get a puppy. mmmmm

something dosnt add up here

i agree not to leave a puppy or dog all day its not fair, but it shouldnt be discriminated against when choosing an owner as discussed earier in this thread its what provisions you make for you dog/child, if you do happen to be out all or part of the day

I suppose its all down to responsible owners/parents again

Debsy
 
debsy said:
Judy said:
Oh  :lol:   so I wasn't the only one Mod to think it was worthy   :D

Just something to think about people can work full time and have children no questions asked but cant get a puppy. mmmmm

something dosnt add up here

i agree not to leave a puppy or dog all day its not fair, but it shouldnt be discriminated against when choosing an owner as discussed earier in this thread its what provisions you make for you dog/child, if you do happen to be out all or part of the day

I suppose its all down to responsible owners/parents again

Debsy


i dont really think anyone was saying if you work fully time you arent going to be aloud a pup, i think they were trying to say if you work full time and expect the pup to stay all day on its own, 5days a week then a whippet is not for you, but if you work full time and can show who you are going to managed a pup in the day, ie are you able to take it to work, or drop back home throughout the day to let it out and have a play, then thats ok.

i dont think any breeder would count someone out just because they say they work full time. :b
 
k4tie-d said:
debsy said:
Judy said:
Oh  :lol:   so I wasn't the only one Mod to think it was worthy   :D

Just something to think about people can work full time and have children no questions asked but cant get a puppy. mmmmm

something dosnt add up here

i agree not to leave a puppy or dog all day its not fair, but it shouldnt be discriminated against when choosing an owner as discussed earier in this thread its what provisions you make for you dog/child, if you do happen to be out all or part of the day

I suppose its all down to responsible owners/parents again

Debsy


i dont really think anyone was saying if you work fully time you arent going to be aloud a pup, i think they were trying to say if you work full time and expect the pup to stay all day on its own, 5days a week then a whippet is not for you, but if you work full time and can show who you are going to managed a pup in the day, ie are you able to take it to work, or drop back home throughout the day to let it out and have a play, then thats ok.

i dont think any breeder would count someone out just because they say they work full time. :b

fair comment and i hope that is the case. I agree, i suppose when selling a pup its deciding who is lying and who is telling the truth a very hard decision i imagine and one i wouldnt like to make ide keep all my puppies if i ever had them and be poor but happy.

Debsy

Debsy
 
There's absolutely no way i'd sell a puppy to anyone that worked full time,whatever provisions they made for it :eek:
 

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