What A Gsd Should Look Like ....... Imo

[jinnyfizz]

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This is Kenmilquin Little Lady aka Rio. She is nearly 4 years old. Her registration is endorsed so that she can't be used for breeding KC registered puppies without permission from her breeder :thumbsup:

She can jump over an 8ft wall, run almost as fast as my whippets, guard my property and she is pretty too :thumbsup:

But above all this, she is fit, healthy and happy :huggles:

What more could you want from a breed?

Here's a couple of short videos and a picture .......

If the KC Breed Standard is to be believed, she should be almost unable to move with a weak back end and not much future in life :rant: :rant: :rant: Bloody cruel :angry:

Would the police use GSDs that were bred to "breed standard"??? :blink:

 

[k4tie-d]

i have to agree with you jane, rio looks stunning, and back legs look 100x better imo,

i dont understand breed clubs or the kc.

even if the breed standard they have today is the same as it was 100 years ago (which its not according to the programe) should they not want the dogs fit for their purpous which in this case is police dog/ gard dog, so should the breed standard not change according to that?

its all rather silly and quite frightning that people would let this happen to animals.

i really hope somthing gets done about it.

 

[peppermint sue]

lovely rio :wub: Ido so agree with you my father inlaw always had gsds.

they all had a nice shape just like your bitch

IM sure if he was alive today he would be deverstated at what they have done

to the breed :rant:

 

[littlenell]

I so agree with you Jane, Rio is beautiful and just what I would want if I could have a GSD (OH is scared of them :- " ) - what is supposed to be the purpose of the sloping back? :blink: and why they think it looks better is beyond me :wacko:

 

[madbella]

:wub:

I love her fluffy hair around her ears and neck!

They said in the programme that the police don't use the shepards with the sloping quarters.

 

[T Hoare]

Not all the show GSD's look like the one's on the tele last night.

There are what are referred to as 'the English type' & 'the Germanic type' in the show world.

I had one that was English type and she was not all like the 'banana backs'. The pics I have of her are old and I have put one on.

To get the slopping look to the topline her inside back leg is slightly inwards but if she were not in a show stance she would look 'normal'. She had a strong hind and no back or hip trouble.

 

[Fleesh]

Funnily enough just had a thought there looking at the last picture, my little non-ped whippet Jessica has a back like that when she's really alert and feeling good she extends her back legs and stretches forwards towards straight front legs and shoulders much like the dog in the picture.

Maybe the key to the desired back shape is not breeding it in but allowing the dog to become as strong and supple as is natural for it (for saying it is a working breed and therefore will be naturally well built/muscular to serve it's original purpose).

Comments from someone who doesn't know the doggy equivalent of arse from elbow :- "

 

[doggy182]

Rio is lovely :wub:

 

[em21]

Oh wow Rio is just beautiful :wub: :wub: I have to say... I haven't seen a GSD with a straight back in ages?!! She's truly lovely :wub:

Emma xxx

 

[alfyn]

Here's 2 of my gsd,s that i bred & showed from the 1980s,certainly more of a German type than the one of Tracey's,but they too were very sound & could certainly do a day's work.Both of them had excellent hips too :thumbsup:

Riealsco delly (hip score 3-3),who won 2 cc,s & 4 rec cc,s

Riealsco rowan (hip score 0-0) who did a fair amount of winning too.

I am appalled at what has become of the modern day gsd & if i'm right,one of the dogs on last nights programme was actually the German seiger ,so it seems that the problem is not only in this country,in fact i would think the problem has stemmed from the foreign dogs,so very very sad

 

[doglover123]

[SIZE=14pt]I HOPE THIS IS THE END TO CRUFTS!![/SIZE]

Surely it cant be legal to treat animals like this!! If this carrys on then in about 20 years time dogs will look like aliens... well they already do!!

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[jinnyfizz]

:wub: I love her fluffy hair around her ears and neck!

They said in the programme that the police don't use the shepards with the sloping quarters.

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That's good ......... I missed them saying that, just saw the pitiful pictures of the dogs in the ring at Crufts this year

Rio has just finished her moult so the fluffy bits are fluffier than normal :lol: :thumbsup:

 

[alfyn]

I forgot to add that Delly had a brother in the met police force & a few others of mine went to the greater Manchester police force :thumbsup:

 

[jinnyfizz]

Delly is lovely.

I must try and get a picture of Rio stacked ...... it would be interesting to see how she shapes up then :thumbsup:

Although it may be a problem getting her to stay still for longer than a nano-second :blink: (w00t)

 

[doglover123]

I love the german shepherd dogs with straight backs im getting one in 2 weeks

 

[peppermint sue]

View attachment 59127I love the german shepherd dogs with straight backs im getting one in 2 weeks

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what a lovely pup best of luck hope to see more pics :thumbsup:

 

[Juley]

Some fantastic pix. The lady who owned the hairdressers where i had a saturday job, a few years ago when I was a teenager, :lol: had two GSD's. They had straight backs and were fabulous. Great temperaments although they were also great guards. ( She was terrifying however). Debs, which is the better hip score and how are they "marked". I have often wondered about it.

 

[T Hoare]

Some fantastic pix.  The lady who owned the hairdressers where i had a saturday job, a few years ago when I was a teenager,  :lol:   had two GSD's.  They had straight backs and were fabulous.  Great temperaments although they were also great guards. ( She was terrifying however).  Debs, which is the better hip score and how are they "marked".  I have often wondered about it.

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Debs can confirm, but I'm sure 0-0 is the better score.

 

[alfyn]

Hips are scored from 0-54 on each hip,0 being perfect.

Each hip is scored in 9 different areas with a maximum score of 6 for each.

So basically, a 0-0 score is perfect & anything over say 16 would start to be a bit suspect.

I can remember someone who owned a lovely gsd who had the highest score possible (108 total) yet she lived to a ripe old age as the muscle had built up around the hip to support it.She had the most peculiar action you ever did see,but it never troubled her :blink: Yet others could have a score in the 40's & have severe problems!

If i can find my scanner,i'll put up some of my old hip score sheets for you,if you like? :thumbsup:

 

[Juley]

Hips are scored from 0-54 on each hip,0 being perfect.Each hip is scored in 9 different areas with a maximum score of 6 for each.

So basically, a 0-0 score is perfect & anything over say 16 would start to be a bit suspect.

I can remember someone who owned a lovely gsd who had the highest score possible (108 total) yet she lived to a ripe old age as the muscle had built up around the hip to support it.She had the most peculiar action you ever did see,but it never troubled her :blink: Yet others could have a score in the 40's & have severe problems!

If i can find my scanner,i'll put up some of my old hip score sheets for you,if you like? :thumbsup:

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That would be brilliant if you wouldn't mind. I can understand about the score not always reflecting the symptoms. When I had an MRI on my back they told me that they oftem see awful MRI's but the people have no symptoms and much better ones where people are crippled in pain. Are the hips scored the same for all breeds? And do they have to be scored by a specialist or your own Vet. I know nothing about this and am really interested.