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when I have bred a litter for myself in the past I have taken which ever pup I want away a lot earlier, the reason being I want it to learn what I want not how to scrap with its litter mates I dont want it bonding with the bitch I want it bonding with me, the last time I did this was with a 1st x saluki greyhound Keera and with her I woon obedience comps agility and a few gun dog scurries as well as many single handed coursing matches

between 5-8wks you can get just about all of the basic obedience done with out really trying

can you please wait now until I get my kevla vest on :oops:
 
shameless52 said:
when I have bred a litter for myself in the past I have taken which ever pup I want away a lot earlier, the reason being I want it to learn what I want not how to scrap with its litter mates I dont want it bonding with the bitch I want it bonding with me, the last time I did this was with a 1st x saluki greyhound Keera and with her I woon obedience comps agility and a few gun dog scurries as well as many single handed coursing matchesbetween 5-8wks you can get just about all of the basic obedience done with out really trying

can you please wait now until I get my kevla vest on :oops:

Nowt do with me i suppose what folks do with there dogs, but in my opinion and i must be owd fashioned or summat, but i still maintain 8 weeks is about right for a pup to be leaving mum, wheres the rush, 2 months eh, as for bondage :lol: i can honestly say, my dog and me have a fantastic bond its unreal, to be able to scrap with litter mates is essential, bonding with mum is essential.

:cheers:
 
so my question is to people if u sell a pup to a person that as no other dogs/childs ect what is the point of it bonding with its litter m8s they may never see them again and even if they do they basically do not remeber them.and as far as gettin on with other dogs well when a dog/bitch goes like that i blame the bringing up of it from a pup.like they say in the human world never blame the kids blame the parenting :- " :D guess who's posts got removed lol :- "
 
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midlanderkeith said:
Nowt do with me i suppose what folks do with there dogs, but in my opinion and i must be owd fashioned or summat, but i still maintain 8 weeks is about right for a pup to be leaving mum, wheres the rush, 2 months eh, as for bondage :lol: i can honestly say, my dog and me have a fantastic bond its unreal, to be able to scrap with litter mates is essential, bonding with mum is essential.                               :cheers:

Well said Keith. If people can't get their pup to bond with them after 8 weeks there is something wrong with their training. Before that is like not letting a child have a childhood.

No better bond to be seen than between Keith and Jill :thumbsup:

Pauline
 
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midlanderkeith said:
shameless52 said:
when I have bred a litter for myself in the past I have taken which ever pup I want away a lot earlier, the reason being I want it to learn what I want not how to scrap with its litter mates I dont want it bonding with the bitch I want it bonding with me, the last time I did this was with a 1st x saluki greyhound Keera and with her I woon obedience comps agility and a few gun dog scurries as well as many single handed coursing matchesbetween 5-8wks you can get just about all of the basic obedience done with out really trying

can you please wait now until I get my kevla vest on :oops:

Nowt do with me i suppose what folks do with there dogs, but in my opinion and i must be owd fashioned or summat, but i still maintain 8 weeks is about right for a pup to be leaving mum, wheres the rush, 2 months eh, as for bondage :lol: i can honestly say, my dog and me have a fantastic bond its unreal, to be able to scrap with litter mates is essential, bonding with mum is essential.

:cheers:


nowt to do with me either i just wanted to say we got 2 litter mates and we have had them for 5.5weeks and they have exceptional behaviour around other dogs and people, and they have completely bonded with each other, but they have also totaly bonded with me, much to my ohs dislike as star was ment to be his :- " they both have very good recall 99% of the time and they both do extreamly well with sit, stay, house training and lead walking. i see no reason what so ever to justify taking one away as you want it to bond with you not the others, as far as im conserned my to love each other dearly but would pick me over the other any day.

before them we only had 2 cats, so that extra 2 weeks with the breeder to get them to 8weeks was vital for them as their were 10 of them in the litter plus mum and mums sister and another dog to learn and grow from each other.

now if we had taken them at 6 weeks, considering you have to wait till 12weeks untill you can take them out after their jabs that would be 6weeks of no other dog interaction and to me that doesnt sound good :(

i can honestly say that i think if we took them at 6weeks they would not be the confident and well socialised pups they are today. :huggles:

in the span of their life 8weeks is nothing, just to let them get the vital skills of mum and mates that they need.
 
k4tie-d said:
midlanderkeith said:
shameless52 said:
when I have bred a litter for myself in the past I have taken which ever pup I want away a lot earlier, the reason being I want it to learn what I want not how to scrap with its litter mates I dont want it bonding with the bitch I want it bonding with me, the last time I did this was with a 1st x saluki greyhound Keera and with her I woon obedience comps agility and a few gun dog scurries as well as many single handed coursing matchesbetween 5-8wks you can get just about all of the basic obedience done with out really trying

can you please wait now until I get my kevla vest on :oops:

Nowt do with me i suppose what folks do with there dogs, but in my opinion and i must be owd fashioned or summat, but i still maintain 8 weeks is about right for a pup to be leaving mum, wheres the rush, 2 months eh, as for bondage :lol: i can honestly say, my dog and me have a fantastic bond its unreal, to be able to scrap with litter mates is essential, bonding with mum is essential.

:cheers:


nowt to do with me either i just wanted to say we got 2 litter mates and we have had them for 5.5weeks and they have exceptional behaviour around other dogs and people, and they have completely bonded with each other, but they have also totaly bonded with me, much to my ohs dislike as star was ment to be his :- " they both have very good recall 99% of the time and they both do extreamly well with sit, stay, house training and lead walking. i see no reason what so ever to justify taking one away as you want it to bond with you not the others, as far as im conserned my to love each other dearly but would pick me over the other any day.

before them we only had 2 cats, so that extra 2 weeks with the breeder to get them to 8weeks was vital for them as their were 10 of them in the litter plus mum and mums sister and another dog to learn and grow from each other.

now if we had taken them at 6 weeks, considering you have to wait till 12weeks untill you can take them out after their jabs that would be 6weeks of no other dog interaction and to me that doesnt sound good :(

i can honestly say that i think if we took them at 6weeks they would not be the confident and well socialised pups they are today. :huggles:

in the span of their life 8weeks is nothing, just to let them get the vital skills of mum and mates that they need.

Well said :thumbsup: Wish they all be as sensible as you.
 
Any pup i have ever got has been 6weeks old and every breeder has always told me the if they are feeding on their own and are bouncy enough then they are ready to go. If they seem to depend on the mother alot and aren't feeding that well then they would stay for another week or two to see how they get on.
 
Cor I stired up a hornets nest with that one did'nt I :- "
 
si iam not on my own beleaving 6 wks is ok for a pup to leave its mother
 
Well who wants to tell my 6 week old pups they cannot interact with each other anymore and who wants to tell their mum who has lots of milk still and likes to go in 4 or 5 times a day and spend time with her pups that she can't. Sorry, I still think 8 weeks is plenty old enough.
 
Juley said:
Well who wants to tell my 6 week old pups they cannot interact with each other anymore and who wants to tell their mum who has lots of milk still and likes to go in 4 or 5 times a day and spend time with her pups that she can't.  Sorry, I still think 8 weeks is plenty old enough.
Juley, I think you mean plenty 'young enough' at 8 weeks.

In my experience the only people I have ever known want to get rid of pups at 6 weeks are mongrel litters where the pups where a mistake anyway. And of course still too young for the pups if not the owner.

Pauline
 
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maggie217 said:
Juley said:
Well who wants to tell my 6 week old pups they cannot interact with each other anymore and who wants to tell their mum who has lots of milk still and likes to go in 4 or 5 times a day and spend time with her pups that she can't.  Sorry, I still think 8 weeks is plenty old enough.
Juley, I think you mean plenty 'young enough' at 8 weeks.

In my experience the only people I have ever known want to get rid of pups at 6 weeks are mongrel litters where the pups where a mistake anyway. And of course still too young for the pups if not the owner.

Pauline

Yup, thats what I meant!! (w00t) 8 weeks is the minimum age I would let mine go. :thumbsup:
 
Juley said:
Well who wants to tell my 6 week old pups they cannot interact with each other anymore and who wants to tell their mum who has lots of milk still and likes to go in 4 or 5 times a day and spend time with her pups that she can't.  Sorry, I still think 8 weeks is plenty old enough.
Their 6 cousins won't be that's for sure!! Their Mummy still adores them too and they have great fun playing together. They are also getting so much opportunity to meet and interact with the other adult dogs in the household too now they are big enough; even Chloe the Dobie :huggles: I'm sure their cousins are doing the same with their Granny and Auntie too

And even if a pup is going to be the only dog in a house, it is still going to come into regular contact with other dogs so the lessons learned at home are going to be useful for these situations.
 
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shameless52 said:
when I have bred a litter for myself in the past I have taken which ever pup I want away a lot earlier, the reason being I want it to learn what I want not how to scrap with its litter mates I dont want it bonding with the bitch I want it bonding with me, the last time I did this was with a 1st x saluki greyhound Keera and with her I woon obedience comps agility and a few gun dog scurries as well as many single handed coursing matchesbetween 5-8wks you can get just about all of the basic obedience done with out really trying

can you please wait now until I get my kevla vest on :oops:

its not about bonding with its mother or its siblings.its about learning the appropriate behaviour and body language for a dog.ive also seen dogs that have been taken away from the litter too early and their behaviour does get them into trouble with other dogs.they havent learned all the minute signals and social skills that a puppy should learn.if you talk to a human behaviourist about monkeys and humans (these are the two main groups of mammals that have had studies done on them by various people who are experts in their field)when they are taken away from their parents too early they have lots of problems in later life mainly with interaction with their own species.its not a question of keeping the puppy cos you want it to bond with its mum,its about the puppy learning all the skills it will need in later life in order to get along with its own species.as for the people who have said i got a pup at 6 weeks and theres nothing wrong with it then its probably due to good luck rather than good judgement and good management :thumbsup: me personally id rather not take the chance that a pup i sell is going to end up as a dog behaviourists client with behavioural problems later in life.for the sake of 2 weeks id rather keep the pup let it interact with its mother and siblings and know its got a rather better than average chance of being a happy well adjusted canine ;)
 
I have read that if you're planning on doing something with the pup (ie working dogs) the best time to get them is 42 to 54 days. It has to do with getting them when they are between "fear phases". Many of the the seeing eye dog organizations place pups at 7 weeks (49 days).

Like anything else, I expect it's going to depend on the pup and the home more than any set rule.

Louanne
 
LVernon said:
I have read that if you're planning on doing something with the pup (ie working dogs) the best time to get them is 42 to 54 days.  It has to do with getting them when they are between "fear phases".  Many of the the seeing eye dog organizations place pups at 7 weeks (49 days).
Like anything else, I expect it's going to depend on the pup and the home more than any set rule.

Louanne

All my pups have great homes, some very experienced, they still don't go before 8 weeks. As this lot are eating really well, I dare say they COULD go, they just WON'T be going. This is the hardest two weeks for me, they are very active and I like to have them out in the garden for a play every day. ( They have a large indoor pen). I also like them to spend some one-time with the rest of the adult dogs and with me. I also borrow a couple of younger children to meet with. IMHO its more than worth it. Ask the people who came back and had a second pup. btw, its my third litter, I only breed when I want something. :thumbsup:
 
all mine and my familys have left at 6 wks and we dont need to go on how well they are,are do in the ring,racing,working are obediance,mark
 

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