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[T Hoare]

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I must be a true Yorkshire man coz I always wear mine when I'm out with the dogs.

I was thinking of having some rabbits tatooed on my head,

from a distance they might look like hares or is that hairs,

( I'm going a but thin on top).

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Does it count if you like Yorkshire Pudding with Beef and tatties.

I'm not sure the tat will help

 

[trac]

a dog that was regularly used for ,  say ferretting , hare coursing ( either under rules or just at owners pleasure , pre ban of course) rabbitting  , not just  catching one when out for a walk?

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Does owner need T wear hob nail boots & work dun pit from 4 inT morn til 9 aT neaT, wi sunday afternoons off Tpub fo Tpint.

Is a flat cap optional?

Does it also make a difference if gaffer can pick 'is snap dog up bi scruff 'n' tail and chuck it down back ginnal?

Maybe feedin um on bread n milk.

Does any of this help to make them a real whippet?

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I think the Flat Cap is A must, doesn't everyone who owns a whuppet ave un. Sorry mark my finest zumerset yocal accent just can't do northun.

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l personally feel the flat cap is an optional extra , but thats JMO

mark i think you miss my point, im trying to see if any have been able to make the grade both ways, both be beautiful and effective, and if so what dogs were they and are they in many pedigrees of today? many choose to work , many choose to show indeed many are just much loved pets , doesnt make them any less of a whippet imo, just wanted to ask this question to see if its been done? :thumbsup:

thanks hannah, im sure some of beans relations are in my dads dog and jessies (my whippet, sired by him) :thumbsup:

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does that mean all northerns have to wear a flat cap...i just dont suit one

and my husband a southern and wont wear one :- "

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I must be a true Yorkshire man coz I always wear mine when I'm out with the dogs.

I was thinking of having some rabbits tatooed on my head,

from a distance they might look like hares or is that hairs,

( I'm going a but thin on top).

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i think that may be a case of hair today gone tomorrow :- "

 

[T Hoare]

i think that may be a case of hair today gone tomorrow :- "

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Yes and the next day :- "

 

[trac]

i think that may be a case of hair today gone tomorrow :- "

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Yes and the next day :- "

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and the next

see tanya left on my own i get in trouble

 

[*Mark*]

I must be a true Yorkshire man coz I always wear mine when I'm out with the dogs.

I was thinking of having some rabbits tatooed on my head,

from a distance they might look like hares or is that hairs,

( I'm going a but thin on top).

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Does it count if you like Yorkshire Pudding with Beef and tatties.

I'm not sure the tat will help

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TATTIES??? thats Scots.

I think you will find it is spuds.

 

[trac]

heres what tatty means up north :- "

atties [Northern] sl n :

potatoes, see neep.

tatty adj :

tawdry, shabby.

tea [introduced to Europe in the 16 c. and England in September 1658. Annual production 30,000 lbs (1700), 2,047,000 tonnes (1988)] n :

as well as the veritable British institution (served strong hot and milky, see British Rail tea), it stands in for a meeting, “let’s have tea”, the late afternoon meal, “what’s for tea, mum?”, or a euphemism for anything else such as having a cigarette or a beer (see teatime). In the working classes, or in the North, it can also means the last meal of the day, usu. at 6pm, and in contrast for the ‘upper classes’, or generally in the South, it would be tea and cake (or anything tasty) around 4 - 5pm, followed by supper around 7 or 8pm (dinner being a more formal meal, see also high tea). As for the cuppa itself, although most people just drink it, as Americans drink coffee, for some the details of the high ceremony are crucial to a good cup, such as warming the pot first, the mif/tif issue, the brand, bags or loose (tea bags or loose leaf), the china, the accoutrements, the setting, and endless others. If this seems excessive just think where the ‘iced skinny unleaded triple-shot venti no-whip mocha, leave room for cream’ will be in a hundred years time.

 

[posh totty]

theres always one know it all aint there (w00t) :- " luv ya really :huggles:

can no one else answer the original question???

 

[lamping mad]

theres always one know it all aint there  (w00t)   :- " luv ya really  :huggles:
can no one else answer the original question??? 

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i think its fine if there happy let it happen :huggles:

 

[whippetmad]

There were 2 show champions who were also coursing champions:
Ch Sound Barrier & Ch Chyton Copy Press

These were around a while ago, I am sure there are pictures on the whippet forum.  They are both in one of dogs pedigrees  :thumbsup:

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I think Ch Shoalingam Sovereign was also a lure courser of merit?

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Thats my Dales Dad :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

 

[trac]

theres always one know it all aint there  (w00t)   :- " luv ya really  :huggles:
can no one else answer the original question??? 

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you will pay for that comment my dear :- " :- "

luv ya :huggles:

 

[Pennymeadow Whippets]

This was one of my bitches she had 2 Reserve CCs & worked day & night taking rabbit hare & fox pre ban she realy excelled at ferreting in the Derbyshire Dales in very rought terrain she also passed on her desire to all her offspring when mated to another show dog.

This is Tawny Pipit Of Flarepath a daughter of the above bitch she also had 2cc & was a great working whippet one of her sons went on to become a show Champion.

This is another daughter who won at lurcher shows never entered at a whippet show who raced & worked day & night to all quarry her sons & daughters were also good working whippets & able to win in the show ring.

 

[posh totty]

thanks jeff!!! so it can be done!! these must have been exceptional dogs and just shows you can do both :thumbsup:

from lack of replies it seems these dogs are very few and far between :thumbsup:

 

[Pennymeadow Whippets]

thanks jeff!!! so it can be done!! these must have been exceptional dogs and just shows you can do both  :thumbsup:
from lack of replies it seems these dogs are very few and far between  :thumbsup:

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They were a pleasure to work & own & i still show work race & lure course my whippets & they love taking part in these things as much as i do. :thumbsup:

 

[Strike Whippets]

Years ago the show types and racing types were similar heights and sizes .....Nowadays the heights and weights have drifted apart so it would be nie on impossible for a racing bred to compete at open or champ shows as they'd look too small ......though there are racing dogs still out there that IMO are very well constructed, correct movement, eye, angulation etc ..... so would be good enough to show

 

[posh totty]

thanks jeff!!! so it can be done!! these must have been exceptional dogs and just shows you can do both  :thumbsup:
from lack of replies it seems these dogs are very few and far between  :thumbsup:

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They were a pleasure to work & own & i still show work race & lure course my whippets & they love taking part in these things as much as i do. :thumbsup:

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for me its pet first , love just having the dogs around me then working , pre an live coursing now post ban im starting lure coursing, then showing , but good to others actaully get the prizes for what they breed as true to type and capabilities :thumbsup:

 

[Pennymeadow Whippets]

Years ago the show types and racing types were similar heights and sizes .....Nowadays the heights and weights have drifted apart so it would be nie on impossible for a racing bred to compete at open or champ shows as they'd look too small ......though there are racing dogs still out there that IMO are very well constructed, correct movement, eye, angulation etc .....  so would be good enough to show 

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Id agree with that the only whippets from the track who would not look to out of place size wise would be some of the heavy weight racers which is a shame for the breed.

 

[*Mark*]

I think that the assumption that all show whippets are over weight and over size is not true. Yes we have big dogs in the ring as you do in the field. But we also have many that are correct size whippets that are very successful in the ring, granted more so in *bitches than dogs.

Another point is that the height and weight requirements of track raced whippets are in my opinion no different to breeding a 'type' for the show ring. Dogs of all breeds have been bred for years to fore fill the requirements & pleasure of humans, breeding for showing is no less important or artificial than running round a track, it is for human pleasure.

A well constructed, fit show whippet will be able to work in the field regardless of meeting racing requirements for height. Do track racing rules have different weight categories? If it has is this because we have always had variations in types with the breed according to the breeder’s preference and possibly the area you live and work them?

When speaking to a person at a show recently they said, I hope he doesn't go over size as I want to race him. If he did go over size by 1/2 inch would this mean he was any less able to work? No he would still be able to do the job he was actually bred for which wasn't racing round a track chasing a stuffed toy.

Look at the picture, I can see difference in types and size dating back many years.

 

[posh totty]

it is good to see that some breeders have been able to breed dogs able to work and show, even though the numbers of these dogs are few and far between

 

[Strike Whippets]

I think that the assumption that all show whippets are over weight and over size is not true. Yes we have big dogs in the ring as you do in the field. But we also have many that are correct size whippets that are very successful in the ring, granted more so in *bitches than dogs.Another point is that the height and weight requirements of track raced whippets are in my opinion no different to breeding a 'type' for the show ring. Dogs of all breeds have been bred for years to fore fill the requirements & pleasure of humans, breeding for showing is no less important or artificial than running round a track, it is for human pleasure. 

A well constructed, fit show whippet will be able to work in the field regardless of meeting racing requirements for height. Do track racing rules have different weight categories? If it has is this because we have always had variations in types with the breed according to the breeder’s preference and possibly the area you live and work them? 

When speaking to a person at a show recently they said, I hope he doesn't go over size as I want to race him. If he did go over size by 1/2 inch would this mean he was any less able to work? No he would still be able to do the job he was actually bred for which wasn't racing round a track chasing a stuffed toy.

Look at the picture, I can see difference in types and size dating back many years.

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Baring in mind Whippets were bred to fill the pot AND race for financial gain ....and started from 5lbs in weight .....I'd personally imagine the 35 + lb-ders and "tall" Whippets really don't "portray" a correct Whippet :- " .....but I do think ANY Whippet would work

 

[Macha]

I personally am interested in racing and showing, not in hunting, but I do know that at least a couple of the whippet exhibitors in Northern Ireland (where I live) do hunt with their dogs.