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[tanyia]

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Before I start lets get the facts straight, I am posting as a BWRA member with my own opinions. I am not posting on behalf of Asfordby whippet club.

To start with the meeting held by the small family concern at the sports centre had nothing to do with Asfordby racing club, who had no part in the decision made and were not at the meeting.

Why are people so shocked at losing yet another venue for weekend events ??

Asfordby sports centre have always wellcomed us with open arms, as did Oldhall before that. What have thay had in return ?? .................

The downfall of our sport can be sumed up in one word ALCOHOL.

The children are expected to behave and respect the property at venues. The adults however do not.

The sports centre to my knowledge have NEVER complained or billed either body for damage etc. Thay have infact been far to polite for there own good. And without a witness what do you expect the BWRA to do about putting a stop to it.

The attitude of alot of racers at weekend events is now ( get the dog weighed in quick , Im losing good drinking time !!!!! ) thats the last you see of them till their dog races, then its straight back to the pub till closing time.

Some of the damage and bad behaviour I do know of ( by word of mouth ) fights and drunken brawls in the club house infront of the regulars who use the pub, fire extingushers being pulled off the wall causing damage , fire alarms being set off , rubbish being left on the feild where children play football.

I have never heard the sports centre complain, but how do racers expect to find good venues when thay behave like this ??

The racers alone are at fault for losing yet another track for weekend events in my opinion.

The children who use the centre keep it clean and respect peoples property, its a shame some adult whippet racers can,t follow their example.

 

[spellbound]

will have to correct you tanyia :b , the first fed champs at asfordby, we had a complaint from the managment about 3 members letting a fire extinguisher off, we had to give the members a verbal warning,(know prize for who the members were) and they had to pay for the replacement fire extingusher to asfordby, not a good start and every year its the same members, and they keep getting away with it,

maybe when a ban was given by the fed committee, it should have stayed a ban then racing would'nt be in this mess, and the massage would have been received that behaviour like that will not be tolerated in our sport,

now all races are paying because some :cheers: think they can get away with anything, AND LETS FACE IT THEY HAVE :b

 

[tanyia]

will have to correct you tanyia :b , the first fed champs at asfordby,  we had a complaint from the managment about 3 members letting a fire extinguisher off, we had to give the members a verbal warning,(know prize for who the members were) and they had to pay for the replacement fire extingusher to asfordby,

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I stand corrected.

I was talking in general with only the facts I have by word of mouth.

 

[Paws123]

Before I start lets get the facts straight, I am posting as a BWRA member with my own opinions. I am not posting on behalf of Asfordby whippet club.To start with the meeting held by the small family concern at the sports centre had nothing to do with Asfordby racing club, who had no part in the decision made and were not at the meeting.

Why are people so shocked at losing yet another venue for weekend events ??

Asfordby sports centre have always wellcomed us with open arms, as did Oldhall before that. What have thay had in return ?? .................

The downfall of our sport can be sumed up in one word ALCOHOL.

The children are expected to behave and respect the property at venues. The adults however do not.

The sports centre to my knowledge have NEVER complained or billed either body for damage etc. Thay have infact been far to polite for there own good. And without a witness what do you expect the BWRA to do about putting a stop to it.

The attitude of alot of racers at weekend events is now ( get the dog weighed in quick , Im losing good drinking time !!!!! ) thats the last you see of them till their dog races, then its straight back to the pub till closing time.

Some of the damage and bad behaviour I do know of ( by word of mouth ) fights and drunken brawls in the club house infront of the regulars who use the pub, fire extingushers being pulled off the wall causing damage , fire alarms being set off , rubbish being left on the feild where children play football.

I have never heard the sports centre complain, but how do racers expect to find good venues when thay behave like this ??

The racers alone are at fault for losing yet another track for weekend events in my opinion.

The children who use the centre keep it clean and respect peoples property, its a shame some adult whippet racers can,t follow their example.

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interesting (w00t)

 

[tanyia]

Before I start lets get the facts straight, I am posting as a BWRA member with my own opinions. I am not posting on behalf of Asfordby whippet club.To start with the meeting held by the small family concern at the sports centre had nothing to do with Asfordby racing club, who had no part in the decision made and were not at the meeting.

Why are people so shocked at losing yet another venue for weekend events ??

Asfordby sports centre have always wellcomed us with open arms, as did Oldhall before that. What have thay had in return ?? .................

The downfall of our sport can be sumed up in one word ALCOHOL.

The children are expected to behave and respect the property at venues. The adults however do not.

The sports centre to my knowledge have NEVER complained or billed either body for damage etc. Thay have infact been far to polite for there own good. And without a witness what do you expect the BWRA to do about putting a stop to it.

The attitude of alot of racers at weekend events is now ( get the dog weighed in quick , Im losing good drinking time !!!!! ) thats the last you see of them till their dog races, then its straight back to the pub till closing time.

Some of the damage and bad behaviour I do know of ( by word of mouth ) fights and drunken brawls in the club house infront of the regulars who use the pub, fire extingushers being pulled off the wall causing damage , fire alarms being set off , rubbish being left on the feild where children play football.

I have never heard the sports centre complain, but how do racers expect to find good venues when thay behave like this ??

The racers alone are at fault for losing yet another track for weekend events in my opinion.

The children who use the centre keep it clean and respect peoples property, its a shame some adult whippet racers can,t follow their example.

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interesting (w00t)

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I didnt think my post was interesting Dee, it was just my opinions as I see them.

 

[mutley]

:cheers: i think this is what is causing the problems in our sport today,the after racing socialising (drunken behaviour) at many top events you only have to go back over the last couple of years to see were the trouble is coming from, but i dare say they won't be happy until there is no where left to run.
On a possitive note, maybe the B.W.R.A. should approach ashfordby to find out if we could still hold the championships, but find camping facilities nearby, this would have a possitive effect for ashfordby and ultimately for whippet racing in general.

The presentation could therefore be held after racing.

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will have to correct you tanyia :b , the first fed champs at asfordby,  we had a complaint from the managment about 3 members letting a fire extinguisher off, we had to give the members a verbal warning,(know prize for who the members were) and they had to pay for the replacement fire extingusher to asfordby, not a good start and every year its the same members,  and they keep getting away with it, 
maybe when a  ban was given by the fed committee, it should have stayed a ban then racing would'nt be in this mess, and the massage would have been received that behaviour like that will not be tolerated in our sport,

now all races are paying because some  :cheers:     think they can get away with anything, AND LETS FACE IT THEY HAVE  :b

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it is unbelievable coming from a stimulant abuser and a thief that you have the nerve to call anyone :blink: fiddling the fed for years which there is proof of all the abuse and violence you dished out to gill since you Yvonne started racing all you have done is cause trouble you made a good job of getting rid of some good people ,you wont be happy until the sport is finished you said henry leech testing lab didnt exist when you were CAUGHT CHEATING then tried to fold the fed all the money you nicked from everyone, anyway ive said enough as john said you 2 a... holes will always be remembered for what you are thieves and cheats tony was OK until he got in with you and has since become your little monkey so before you blame anyone for anything look at all the shit you have caused since you started racing all the titles you won mean jack shit how many other times did you use stimulants god knows :clown: so the last thing i will say to you is crawl back into wherever you came from idiot thief cheat :blink:

 

[mutley]

oh bye the way the counterfeit money used at the last champs had nothing to do with them chasing weekends away ey (w00t) a lott of forged money that is :angry: disgusting from whoever put it over the bar 120 quid in all not counting the change received from each note theres your reason along with dirty t..ts to lazy to use the facilities properly...................

 

[mutley]

will have to correct you tanyia :b , the first fed champs at asfordby,  we had a complaint from the managment about 3 members letting a fire extinguisher off, we had to give the members a verbal warning,(know prize for who the members were) and they had to pay for the replacement fire extingusher to asfordby, not a good start and every year its the same members,  and they keep getting away with it, 
maybe when a  ban was given by the fed committee, it should have stayed a ban then racing would'nt be in this mess, and the massage would have been received that behaviour like that will not be tolerated in our sport,

now all races are paying because some  :cheers:     think they can get away with anything, AND LETS FACE IT THEY HAVE  :b

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one last quote dont you mean your bank ballance wouldnt be in the state it is :- "

 

[tanyia]

IT IS THE CAMPING SIDE THAT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN IS IT NOT, THE ACTUAL VENUE IS STILL THERE , IS IT POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE WITH A LOCAL CAMPSITE TO ACCOMMODATE THE CARAVANS AND TENTS

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Ive only found one campsite for caravans , tents and thay take dogs, thay have showers and toilets. But it would mean a 35 minute drive there and back its about 24.5 miles from the track, but I have no idea how many caravans thay could take.

 

[JoJess]

oh bye the way the counterfeit money used at the last champs had nothing to do with them chasing weekends  away ey  (w00t) a lott of forged money that is  :angry: disgusting from whoever put it over the bar 120 quid in all not counting the change received from each note   theres your reason along with dirty t..ts to lazy to use the facilities properly...................

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If these people responsible for this behaviour is known by the BWRA committee then they should be named and shamed .........as this puts a bad light on all of the members :angry:

 

[phil]

oh bye the way the counterfeit money used at the last champs had nothing to do with them chasing weekends  away ey  (w00t) a lott of forged money that is  :angry: disgusting from whoever put it over the bar 120 quid in all not counting the change received from each note   theres your reason along with dirty t..ts to lazy to use the facilities properly...................

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If these people responsible for this behaviour is known by the BWRA committee then they should be named and shamed .........as this puts a bad light on all of the members :angry:

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iagree completely ;get those responsible so ashamed they wont come back ,they think nothing of dragging the majorityof us down to there level :WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE BEING PROTECTED :they are not our friends they only think and look after themselves. phil

 

[weathergirls]

will have to correct you tanyia :b , the first fed champs at asfordby,  we had a complaint from the managment about 3 members letting a fire extinguisher off, we had to give the members a verbal warning,(know prize for who the members were) and they had to pay for the replacement fire extingusher to asfordby, not a good start and every year its the same members,  and they keep getting away with it, 
maybe when a  ban was given by the fed committee, it should have stayed a ban then racing would'nt be in this mess, and the massage would have been received that behaviour like that will not be tolerated in our sport,

now all races are paying because some  :cheers:     think they can get away with anything, AND LETS FACE IT THEY HAVE  :b

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one last quote dont you mean your bank ballance wouldnt be in the state it is :- "

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WHY DO YOU KEEP ON ANSWERING THIS CRACKPOT

 

[weathergirls]

Sadly I have to inform all BWRA members that I had a telephone call today from the chairman of Asfordby Sports Club informing me that they would no longer be able to let us use their ground for our championships.
Dave the chairman said that after their meeting on Wednesday it was decided that our event had become too big for them to manage.  None of the staff that work there get paid, they are all volunteers and give up their time to stage this event.

We can still stage one day meetings but these would have to be between the middle of May to the middle of August, no race meetings can be held outside these stated months.

I was given to understand that the N.N.W.R.F. have been given the same information so both racing bodies are being treated exactly the same.

What we need now is for club or regional secretaries to write to me if you think that a club in your area could stage our championships,this will include puppy championships if we want to stage them as a week-end event with another rave meeting.

Ideally the venue should be in the middle of the country so that every one has more or less the same distance to travel. Also there would need to be club facilities for the social evening, toilets, showers.

If anyone has any ideas please put them inwriting to me and we can discuss it at this years AGM.  This will be held on SUNDAY  NOVEMBER 27TH  AT  OLD HALL.

SORRY IT'S BAD NEWS BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR NEXT YEAR.

                        REGARDS  Doreen

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THIS IS WHERE THIS TOPIC FIRST STARTED AND ONCE AGAIN I MUST SAY TO DOREEN THIS WASN,T THE PLACE.

YOUR FIRST PORT OF CALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE REGIONAL REPS, WITH A FULL ACCOUNT OF EXACTLY WHAT HAS GONE ON, SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE ARE A LOT MORE SERIOUS THAN PEOPLE THINK AND IN MY OPINION IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THE BWRA EXCUTIVE COMMITTEE TO HAVE CALLED A MEETING OF THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE. YOU CANNOT KEEP IGNORING THE PROCEDURES. IF ITS TOO MUCH TROUBLE FOR YOU TO ARRANGE A REPS MEETING THEN INSTEAD OF POSTING ON HERE SEND THE REGIONAL REPS AN E-MAIL MOST OF THEM ARE ON THE NET THOSE WHO ARE NOT TRY THE ROYAL MAIL OR THE TELEPHONE AND GIVE THEM A FULL ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAS GONE ON. AFTER THAT WHIPPET NEWS IS THE PLACE TO REPORT NOT K9

LINDA BROOM N/W BWRA SEC

(N.N.W.R.F. CHAIRPERSON)

 

[Paws123]

Have to say i agree that all the regional reps should of had a full account of what had gone on, but i can not see why all the BWRA members should be kept in the dark about the reasons that surround that weekend.

When Ashfordby decided that they could not host our weekend events any more, the ex BWRA Chairman Mr Paul Jennings has done his best to try and sort the issue out.

First off the emptying of a porta loo over the field this person was seen and reported for doing it to Doreen.

Second people using the bushes as a toilet.

Third the handing over of counterfeit money at the club house, the guy that runs the bar is fully aware of who did it and where it came from, as Doreen stated the bar staff work volunteer over our camping weekend events and are probably not will to help out again because of this situation.

The NNWRF have not to date been informed that we have lost our May champ weekend yet. If we do members will be informed straight away.

 

[sheilawebb]

So Linda, it's alright for you to post on K9 and let everybody know of your intentions but not for the BWRA Secretary who was democractically voted into her position as BWRA secretary by members, to do the same.

I suggest you get your facts straight before posting on K9 regarding regions being informed via their regional secretaries on the subject of losing Asfordby as I am sure you will find all regions have been informed ready for them to put forward their views at the coming AGM on the 29 November.

Sheila Webb (Southern Region Secretary)

s in formed of the position regarding Asfordby along with I beklieve all other secretaries in order to put forward our views at the coming AGM on the 29 November.

 

[Honeybee]

Doreen Hopkins is doing her very best to keep all the Members informed of the loss of Asfordby Venue. The Regional Secretaries, I understand, were advised of the position.

Linda, why is it you are constantly trying to undermine EVERYTHING the BWRA Secretary does. Your are ONLY an Area Secretary and, therefore, should be assisting Doreen and not criticising her. Seems that no matter what the BWRA Secreatry does by keeping members advised as to what is going on - she can't do right for doing wrong!!!!!

Doreen can only publicise what she has been told, it is other members that have drawn the conclusion that there must be "other reasons" for the loss of the track. We can all make judgement as to why but if Doreen has not been given any other information then she cannot advise members accordingly.

By advising Members of the loss of Asfordby track it gives members/Club Secretaries a chance to make enquiries for next year's championship and, hopefully, find a new venue.

Doreen and Bill are both very honest people and, like their predecessors, do a thankless job and need people's support no criticism. :thumbsup:

 

[mutley]

no body is knocking Doreen for letting people know whats going on , it was the statement made about naming and shaming the people responsible, then we have heard nothing else on the matter why not just publish it on k9

 

[spellbound]

Sadly I have to inform all BWRA members that I had a telephone call today from the chairman of Asfordby Sports Club informing me that they would no longer be able to let us use their ground for our championships.
Dave the chairman said that after their meeting on Wednesday it was decided that our event had become too big for them to manage.   None of the staff that work there get paid, they are all volunteers and give up their time to stage this event.

We can still stage one day meetings but these would have to be between the middle of May to the middle of August, no race meetings can be held outside these stated months.

I was given to understand that the N.N.W.R.F. have been given the same information so both racing bodies are being treated exactly the same.

What we need now is for club or regional secretaries to write to me if you think that a club in your area could stage our championships,this will include puppy championships if we want to stage them as a week-end event with another rave meeting.

Ideally the venue should be in the middle of the country so that every one has more or less the same distance to travel. Also there would need to be club facilities for the social evening, toilets, showers.

If anyone has any ideas please put them inwriting to me and we can discuss it at this years AGM.   This will be held on SUNDAY  NOVEMBER 27TH  AT  OLD HALL.

SORRY IT'S BAD NEWS BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR NEXT YEAR.

                         REGARDS   Doreen

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THIS IS WHERE THIS TOPIC FIRST STARTED AND ONCE AGAIN I MUST SAY TO DOREEN THIS WASN,T THE PLACE.

YOUR FIRST PORT OF CALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO THE REGIONAL REPS, WITH A FULL ACCOUNT OF EXACTLY WHAT HAS GONE ON, SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE ARE A LOT MORE SERIOUS THAN PEOPLE THINK AND IN MY OPINION IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THE BWRA EXCUTIVE COMMITTEE TO HAVE CALLED A MEETING OF THE NATIONAL COMMITTEE. YOU CANNOT KEEP IGNORING THE PROCEDURES. IF ITS TOO MUCH TROUBLE FOR YOU TO ARRANGE A REPS MEETING THEN INSTEAD OF POSTING ON HERE SEND THE REGIONAL REPS AN E-MAIL MOST OF THEM ARE ON THE NET THOSE WHO ARE NOT TRY THE ROYAL MAIL OR THE TELEPHONE AND GIVE THEM A FULL ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAS GONE ON. AFTER THAT WHIPPET NEWS IS THE PLACE TO REPORT NOT K9

LINDA BROOM N/W BWRA SEC

(N.N.W.R.F. CHAIRPERSON)

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(Quote ) nobody is knocking Doreen for letting people know whats going on , it was the statement made about naming and shaming the people responsible, then we have heard nothing else on the matter why not just publish it on k9

if this is not KNOCKING, CRITICSING, what is it doing ?? when this website's used the way it should be TO INFORM everyone about racing matter's, we get the N/W BWRA SEC ( N.N.W.R.F . CHAIRPERSON ) LINDA BROOM, SAYING DON'T TELL THE MEMBERS, so should this website only be used for name calling, criticsing, naming and shaming, THAT THE BEST WAY IN YOUR OPINION TO PROMOTE WHIPPET RACING,

if the nnwrf have not been told the same (no champs next year ) why have you already asked old hall if you can have your champs there,??

if your all for naming and shaming why did we read nothing about your NNWRF committee member receiving a ban for fighting again at your nnwrf champs held at asfordby in may, or is it just bwra matter that should be named and shamed,

in my opinion, i can't see that someone's passing counterfeit money over, being why we can't have champs at asfordby, we all know how much money the club must make over the weekend, and they give back £500 in added money for the open on monday, so i'm sure £120 in counterfeit money would not stop them wanting the champs, i would also say if the management new who passed on the money why did'nt they inform the police,?? Dave and John are ex police officer's

 

[Karen-Coral]

:cheers: i think this is what is causing the problems in our sport today,the after racing socialising (drunken behaviour) at many top events you only have to go back over the last couple of years to see were the trouble is coming from, but i dare say they won't be happy until there is no where left to run.
On a possitive note, maybe the B.W.R.A. should approach ashfordby to find out if we could still hold the championships, but find camping facilities nearby, this would have a possitive effect for ashfordby and ultimately for whippet racing in general.

The presentation could therefore be held after racing.

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:thumbsup: -Spot on

Counterfeit money-Toilet Waste on Field-Dog Fouling-Litter-Damaged Property-Using the bushes as a toilet area- May all be contributing factors but I strongly believe that the above quote is probably the final straw which broke the camels back and this will continue at other venues unless dealt with appropriately.

 

[Paws123]

if your all for naming and shaming why did we read nothing about your NNWRF committee member receiving a ban for fighting again at your nnwrf champs held at asfordby in may, or is it just bwra matter that should be named and shamed,
in my opinion, i can't see  that someone's passing counterfeit money over, being why we can't have champs at asfordby, we all know how much money the club must make over the weekend, and they give back £500 in added money for the open on monday, so i'm sure £120 in counterfeit money would not stop them wanting the champs, i would also say if the management new who passed on the money why did'nt they inform the police,?? Dave and John are ex police officer's

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Have i missed something here which NNWRF committee member was banned for fighting, there was a banning of a NNWRF member in May for fighting as she was already on a 12 month warning for violence the year before

The £120 counterfeit money was about £240 when you take into account all the change given out of each £10 or £20 ..... maybe the police have been informed i couldn't say

I to believe that there has been alot of contributing factors thats helped to the losing of Ashfordby