Crossing With Greys ,,the New Ruling

[dennned]

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If I thought the lining to the 3/4 whippet 1/4 GHD was better then that's what I would do. Like's been said the BWRA rule was voted in by it's members but it's certainly not a dictatorship on how to breed and it certainly doesn't exclude a dog from racing at all. It is definately not like the closed stud book held by the Kennel Club.
When someone / anyone?!!! can clearly define and proove when a whippet becomes a greyhound then the decision is left with an organisation to decide. In the case of the BWRA it's members decided on their behalf based on the proposals put forward by the committee.

Ranting never wins votes and I doubt a proposal to overturn would win a majority vote now. However, an alternative proposal might replace it if enough thought was put into it.

good question then-----a 1/2x whippet x greyhound --not allowed ???? that makes them 3/4 grey x 1/4 whippet , but still possibly whippet in appearence,"still definatley a non pedigree whippet " but could easily make 55lb , again is it not allowed , could i have a copy of the breeding regulations please , put online for all to see, i'm not stirring , i'm just interested as to what "I" can breed to race under your banner , if i'm allowed to do so, or are there stipulations ???????----------------------------------look forward to reading the rules ----------stuart

 

[gary farmer]

ALSO THE PROBLEM WITH THE RULING IS IT LEAVES TO MANY WAYS ROUND IT SUCH AS YOU CAN BREED A 1/2 CROSS TO A HALF CROSS MAKING THE OFFSPING A HALF CROSS

BUT IF YOU KEEP DOING THIS THE OFFSRING WILL STILL BE HALF AND HALF

BUT THE GENARATIONS WILL BE FIRST THEN SECOND AND THEN NEXT GENARATION CAN BE PUT TO A GREYHOUND MAKING A MOCORY OF THE RULING

GARY

AND IF YOU KEEP DOING IT A GREYHOUND WONT EVEN SHOW UP ON THE PEDIGREE LOL

THE RULING STATES

FIRST GENARATION 1/2 GREYHOUND AND HALF WHIPPET FIRST CROSS CANT BE MATED TO A GREYHOUND

SECOND GENARATION 1/4 GREYHOUND 3/4 WHIPPET SECOND CROSS CANT BE MATED TO A GREYHOUND

THIRD GENARATION 1/8 GREYHOUND 7 /8 WHIPPET CAN BE MATED TO A WHIPPET

EASY :thumbsup:

BUT

NOW HERES WHERE IT GOES WRONG

IF YOU PUT A HALF CROSS TO A HALF CROSS

YOUR OFFSPRING ARE SECOND GENARATION BUT STILL 1/2 CROSSES

AND IF YOU MATE THEM TO THE SAME 1/2 CROSS SECOND GENARATION

THEN THEY BECOME THIRD GENARATION AND STILL 1/2 WHIPPET AND 1/2 GREYHOUND BUT CAN BE MATED TO A GREYHOUND

KEEP DOING THIS AND IT AND A GREYHOUND WONT EVEN SHOW UP ON THE PEDIGREE

ITS A JOKE



GARY

 

[wild whippies]

For Dennned.

There are 2 main organisations in whippet racing, The BWRA and The NNWRF. The BWRA have their own website www.thebwra.co.uk or you could approach a committee member through the contacts list for any particular enquiries. The NNWRF have their own sub forum on this site with info and their committee members contact details are also available should you again have any specific enquiries pertaining to them.

 

[wild whippies]

NOW HERES WHERE IT GOES WRONG IF YOU PUT A HALF CROSS TO A HALF CROSS

YOUR OFFSPRING ARE SECOND GENARATION BUT STILL 1/2 CROSSES

AND IF YOU MATE THEM TO THE SAME 1/2 CROSS SECOND GENARATION

THEN THEY BECOME THIRD GENARATION AND STILL 1/2 WHIPPET AND 1/2 GREYHOUND BUT CAN BE MATED TO A GREYHOUND

KEEP DOING THIS AND IT AND A GREYHOUND WONT EVEN SHOW UP ON THE PEDIGREE

Christ Gary give me some of that Vodka!!!! (w00t)

 

[JOHNG]

k9 was getting very boring but now it's even more boring ,just stick to what as been voted in by the members and it will be ok,if your not sure what you can USE TO BREED WITH JUST ASK iam sure someone off the top table will let you know'

the problem was that the scr dogs breeding was getting to close to being full greyhound,so in my opinion something had to be done to control it. if you want a greyhound get one don't bring them or breed them into our sport . ) ( whippet racing )

 

[mutley]

think saying dont breed em into our sports a bit of a daft comment john if bob lyle never mated his greyhound you wouldnt of got becky or penny lol :teehee:

 

[JOHNG]

think saying dont breed em into our sports a bit of a daft comment john if bob lyle never mated his greyhound you wouldnt of got becky or penny lol :teehee:

i don't think it's a daft comment gary i think you know what i mean,i have no problem with whippet x greyhound but it should be controled like it is now

samsara was whippet x greyhound as well

this the last iam saying on the matter let the members vote.

 

[kenny m]

wasn't going to post on this thread,but have an opinion.. i think the cap was enough as there will always be a way around the you cant put this to that,it will never work,bet theres dogs out there now,theres ways around anything and you dont have to have brains to do it..we do need the greys in the pool to get your new blood i wouldnt do it as i like small,a whippet not a greyhound..enjoy our sport,if you want to know anything go through the proper channels and do it right because you wont get the top tables posting on here and i dont blame them,theres plenty of shite gets thrown about without putting more on here :thumbsup:

 

[dennned]

wasn't going to post on this thread,but have an opinion.. i think the cap was enough as there will always be a way around the you cant put this to that,it will never work,bet theres dogs out there now,theres ways around anything and you dont have to have brains to do it..we do need the greys in the pool to get your new blood i wouldnt do it as i like small,a whippet not a greyhound..enjoy our sport,if you want to know anything go through the proper channels and do it right because you wont get the top tables posting on here and i dont blame them,theres plenty of shite gets thrown about without putting more on here :thumbsup:

kenny, are you saying theres , non peds , of not the correct breeding , racing on the circuit """",theres ways around anything and you dont have to have brains to do it..""""" brains to do what exactly, corrupt the proper code of breeding , so as to have a higher percentage of greyhound blood in their make up, surely thats way beyond the code of practice for non ped racing , ------------------------just my assumption , but you words plainly say it is happening today, tut tut tut , to all the owners with a higher percentage of greyhound -- thats cheating--------and clearly not allowed by the federation, maybe , theres a call for dna testing on animals that are supposed to be off a certain sire , which clearly are'nt of that parentage, """"bet theres dogs out there now"""" again your words kenny, so surely the fed should be looking closer into the breeding program------------stuart

 

[kenny m]

yes Stuart i wrote it..we fill forms out to say what our dogs are bred out of i know what my pups breeding are that's all i am worried about,so again,i dont care i dont need anyone to quote me,i know what i wrote i said i (bet),and you dont have to have a brain to get around that rule i could do it quite easy if i was breading loads of pups and im not that bright so it must be easy to get around,yes i wrote it so what..i wont be posting about it again,like i said i couldn't give a toss whats allowed to breed or run as i would only have a one of my own bred pups.. anyway like i said the cap was enough the members will vote what they want,i wouldnt vote on it as it doesn't affect my breeding,and theres only one thing to add if i had any ideas about who was breaking any rule i would put a letter into the both committees :thumbsup:

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

k9 was getting very boring but now it's even more boring ,just stick to what as been voted in by the members and it will be ok,if your not sure what you can USE TO BREED WITH JUST ASK iam sure someone off the top table will let you know'
the problem was that the scr dogs breeding was getting to close to being full greyhound,so in my opinion something had to be done to control it. if you want a greyhound get one don't bring them or breed them into our sport . ) ( whippet racing )

your right john let the members vote its the way forward but can you answer me this question you quite rightly state on your profile 14 race dogs in 37 years how many of the 14 had greyhound in the breeding or were they all pure whippets.

 

[DavidH]

think it would be difficult NOT to find greyhound breeding in any mating over 4 or 5 generations :blink:

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

think it would be difficult NOT to find greyhound breeding in any mating over 4 or 5 generations :blink:

EXACTLY. (w00t)

 

[friggsy]

k9 was getting very boring but now it's even more boring ,just stick to what as been voted in by the members and it will be ok,if your not sure what you can USE TO BREED WITH JUST ASK iam sure someone off the top table will let you know'
the problem was that the scr dogs breeding was getting to close to being full greyhound,so in my opinion something had to be done to control it. if you want a greyhound get one don't bring them or breed them into our sport . ) ( whippet racing )

WELL SAID JOHN THESE SO CALLED WHIPPETS ARE GETTING TO BIG

 

[GRAHAM PEM]

k9 was getting very boring but now it's even more boring ,just stick to what as been voted in by the members and it will be ok,if your not sure what you can USE TO BREED WITH JUST ASK iam sure someone off the top table will let you know'
the problem was that the scr dogs breeding was getting to close to being full greyhound,so in my opinion something had to be done to control it. if you want a greyhound get one don't bring them or breed them into our sport . ) ( whippet racing )

WELL SAID JOHN THESE SO CALLED WHIPPETS ARE GETTING TO BIG

dont think its about them getting to big if that was the case we take a chance even if we line a 16lber to a greyhound as the could in theory go over the 55lb limit

 

[mutley]

theres been some big scratch dogs ive seen over the last twenty odd year so whats knew :clown: and why is it mainly yard per pound owners that moan about scratch racing its all old news :teehee:

 

[whippeteerThe1st]

its because ,,,( maybe gary ),,,,,,ylb racers dont like the fact they have to set time aside at opens to let scratch racers run there dog,s

cause they see them as too big,,,,,which is fair enough,,,,,,,,but scratch racing is good for pll,s who dogs make over the weight,,,,,so there,s no wastege in pup,s,,,,which is a good thing ,,, :thumbsup:

 

[June Jonigk]

got to agree there non ped whippets, are just that---- NON PEDIGREE, what makes a non pedigree, a cross between a pedigree and any other breed, namely the greyhound, so come on the powers that be, get a grip , dont become just like the kc registered , little puny things, or is it , maybe because theres some very good non peds , on the go at the moment that , the powers to be want to stop breeding larger dogs-----------------------i'm interested in replies from , the powers that be?????????? stuart

Then surely that would make it lurcher racing. If you want to cross greyhounds with whippets why not go lurcher racing instead and race with other lurchers?

 

[whippeteerThe1st]

got to agree there non ped whippets, are just that---- NON PEDIGREE, what makes a non pedigree, a cross between a pedigree and any other breed, namely the greyhound, so come on the powers that be, get a grip , dont become just like the kc registered , little puny things, or is it , maybe because theres some very good non peds , on the go at the moment that , the powers to be want to stop breeding larger dogs-----------------------i'm interested in replies from , the powers that be?????????? stuart

Then surely that would make it lurcher racing. If you want to cross greyhounds with whippets why not go lurcher racing instead and race with other lurchers?

bwra whippets,,,,,,are long dog,s ,,,,,,,weather bwra likes it or not

they do float between lurcher and whippet

thats why there non pedigree ( whippet racing ) :thumbsup:

 

[whippeteerThe1st]

got to agree there non ped whippets, are just that---- NON PEDIGREE, what makes a non pedigree, a cross between a pedigree and any other breed, namely the greyhound, so come on the powers that be, get a grip , dont become just like the kc registered , little puny things, or is it , maybe because theres some very good non peds , on the go at the moment that , the powers to be want to stop breeding larger dogs-----------------------i'm interested in replies from , the powers that be?????????? stuart

Then surely that would make it lurcher racing. If you want to cross greyhounds with whippets why not go lurcher racing instead and race with other lurchers?

bwra whippets,,,,,,are long dog,s ,,,,,,,weather bwra likes it or not

they do float between lurcher and whippet

thats why there non pedigree ( whippet racing ) :thumbsup:

cheap as chips and not over priced,,,,,,keeping them fast ,,,,,and not slow,,,,,, :thumbsup:

yet 14/16lber ,,,,too me is too small,,,,,but suit,s ylb handycapp,,,,,,,,,,,, :thumbsup: but yet there non pedigree,,,,,( i,e long dog ) :thumbsup: