Crufts Photos

[Judy]

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Well Done Helen. :thumbsup:

 

[starswift]

well done helen,hotspur and major bailey :cheers: :cheers: :thumbsup:

 

[alfie]

Well done Helen- I think that's the first time I've seen young Harry in the flesh and what a handsome elegant boy he is! :wub:

What a difficult choice for Best of Breed- two very different Whippets, both with so many virtues, both showing really well.

Well done Cathie, and Irene too- not content with just the CC, to take the Res CC as well must have been pretty special! :thumbsup:

I was very frustrated not to have been able to watch more of the Whippet judging, but had to work on the trade stand, and spent enough time in Graduate bitch being humiliated by Mabel's mardy-ness anyway! :rant:

Liz and the Monellis

 

[JAX]

If any ones entitled to a maga brag , you are

[SIZE=21pt]WELL DONE AND WELL DESERVED TOO [/SIZE]

 

[Canada]

BEST PUPPY IN BREED WINNER

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Congrats from Canada. What a thrill . Lovely to see what a beautiful boy Harry is turning out to be. Ohhhh! if only there had been litter mates!!!

 

Congrats to Hottie as well, always looking so good.

Was Lottie entered to make it a family affair?

 

Sandra Manorcourt Whippets

 

[dolly]

BEST PUPPY IN BREED WINNER

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Congrats from Canada. What a thrill . Lovely to see what a beautiful boy Harry is turning out to be. Ohhhh! if only there had been litter mates!!!

 

Congrats to Hottie as well, always looking so good.

Was Lottie entered to make it a family affair?

 

Sandra Manorcourt Whippets

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SANDRA YOU MUST BE THRILLED THAT ' YOUR' LITTLE BOY WON !!!

 

LOTTIE WASNT ENTERED, SO MUM WASNT THERE TO SEE HER SPECIAL BOY

 

[EJW]

:cheers: Well Done! :cheers: :thumbsup:

 

[chelynnah]

Well done Helen

Our Crufts photos are all online here: http://groups.msn.com/savvychels/crufts2006.msnw?Page=1

there's 13 pages of them!! Helen there are many of you and Harry, and you and Hottie as Dawn and Richard asked us to take them on behalf of Rob.

You can either look at the thumbnails and click on them if you see something that interests you (anyone I mean, not just Helen) or you can click on the first one and go through them like a slide show by clicking on 'next'

Hope you enjoy

Wendy

 

[dolly]

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Well done Helen
Our Crufts photos are all online here:  http://groups.msn.com/savvychels/crufts2006.msnw?Page=1

there's 13 pages of them!!  Helen there are many of you and Harry, and you and Hottie as Dawn and Richard asked us to take them on behalf of Rob.

You can either look at the thumbnails and click on them if you see something that interests you (anyone I mean, not just Helen) or you can click on the first one and go through them like a slide show by clicking on 'next'

Hope you enjoy

Wendy

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many many thanks for sharing the photos, its like looking at my own photo album !!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[chelynnah]

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Well done Helen
Our Crufts photos are all online here:  http://groups.msn.com/savvychels/crufts2006.msnw?Page=1

there's 13 pages of them!!  Helen there are many of you and Harry, and you and Hottie as Dawn and Richard asked us to take them on behalf of Rob.

You can either look at the thumbnails and click on them if you see something that interests you (anyone I mean, not just Helen) or you can click on the first one and go through them like a slide show by clicking on 'next'

Hope you enjoy

Wendy

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many many thanks for sharing the photos, its like looking at my own photo album !!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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You're very welcome! Let us know if you'd like full size versions of any - I'm more than happy to email you - or print any hard copies.

Wendy

 

[Dusilla]

:cheers: Well done! :cheers:

Thank you for sharing the photos! :thumbsup: WOW how beautiful whippets! :wub:

 

[Alayna Morland]

Well done Helen - I think you were robbed for Best of Breed :- "  I thought the bitch that won was overweight, which spoilt her look - she waddled a bit which also spoilt her movement.  (Mind you, some might say the same about me!!)

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I do not post very often unless it is about EAWC, but I feel that comments like this are very uncalled for, I do not think the BOB winner would have been cut to the last nine in the group if she was overweight or waddled. I happen to know Honey is kept in tip top condition by Irene and Cathy.

Please keep comments positive.

Alayna Morland

 

[JAX]

Im sure June didnt mean to upset any one Alayna 8) and im sure if Cathy ( dragonfly) felt offended she would have replied herself .

She had a fantasic day and its what the judge thinks that matters isnt it :- "

 

[dolly]

I THINK THE BITCH LOOKED STUNNING

WHAT A GREAT ACHEIVEMENT TO OWN AND BRED BOTH THE BCC AND RBCC WINNER

GOOK LUCK IN THE FUTURE :luck: :luck:

 

[June Jonigk]

Whoops! I didn't mean to upset anyone - it was a bit tongue in cheek - hence the comparison to my own weight!! :- "

However, I wasn't downright nasty, and I think everyone is entitled to an opinion, and in my opinion her 'condition' as the show people call it, spoils the outline of an otherwise beautiful animal. The other thing I should add, is that the bitch we're referring to is a whippet - and therefore one of the most superior and beautiful animals on the planet - so well done to her owners. To me, as long as it is a whippet - it's a winner!

Thanks for sticking up for me Jax - I really didn't mean to upset anyone, and you obviously knew that :thumbsup:

 

[aslan]

You're right June, you are entitled to your opinion.

And lots of people see the same thing differently. WE could have been standing together at ringside - you saw a dog as a bit overweight, I may not have. We should be able to express those opinions without offending anyone, as long as they are expressed without malice.

I did think your comment was without malice - but perhaps joining it alongside your vote of confidence in Helen's dog ie "you were robbed" could possibly be what made Alayna take offence.

It's very difficult to know exactly how people will react to what one says. I have agonised about how to be diplomatic about a number of my posts and eventually come up with what I thought could not be taken the wrong way - but still in some instances it has. That's life I guess.

As someone from far away who was not present at the judging - I don't think your comment took away from the bitch's win at all. After all, as you said, it was just your opinion. You thought she was a bit overweight - the judge didn't - simple as that. No need for any deeper analysis by anyone.

I hope Alayna can see my point as well.

 

[Avalonia]

You're right June, you are entitled to your opinion.

And lots of people see the same thing differently. WE could have been standing together at ringside - you saw a dog as a bit overweight, I may not have. We should be able to express those opinions without offending anyone, as long as they are expressed without malice.

I am with Aslan on this one. If I can be blunt, a forum such as this would be far better served, not by attacking particular dogs, but by breeders sharing honestly held opinions about what makes and does not make a good whippet.

I am sick to death of reading page after page of "how pretty", "so beautiful" etc. about positively every single whippet photo posted on this site. Let's face it folks, all whippets are pretty/beautiful/handsome and that is why we have given our hearts and souls over to them. That said, not all whippets are equal in quality, not all whippets in show situations -- and this is a show forum here -- are of the same quality or are as deserving of highest honours, so how does anyone ever learn what distinguishes a great show whippet from a merely ordinary (or, horror, horro, a positively awful one) if all everyone ever posts is a pious platitude about the overall beauty/pretty face of every whippet on the face of this earth and no one is willing to stick their neck out and discuss things like faults, breeding traits, etc.?

Is it possible people really want to know what is right and wrong about whippets in order to improve the breed and the quality of the breeding stock? Or are we merely going to go on merrily picking whippets because we are fawn fanatics and cano't see past anything in shades of fawn, or because we believe one breeder or exhibitor has the magic formula for the best whippets, or because we believe every whippet should continue to be short coupled and look like Harque the Lark did back in 1960 and that's it? Puleese!

I happen to think there is still a lot about English whippets to like, which is why the nearly 25 year breeding program of my son and I has focused to an incredible extent on English bloodlines, despite the fact we are Canadians. (Well. I am actually English born but became a Canadian at 2 and a half) and access to US whippets is so much easier. )

But there are also things I think are contributing to a discernable loss of quality in the breed in England over the past couple of decades, and none of you are talking about them. So let's call a spade a spade and let me throw a few of them from my perspective out on the table like scraps for you to consider.

Amongst the greatest faults I see are:

An increasing predisposition to horrid short upper arms which severely restricts front movement and leads to dogs with shorter reach and more mincing movement. Far more steps covering less ground. Horrible!

Poor overall movement with less reach and drive than I have seen at any time in the years since 1977 when I first watched whippets at Crufts and had my breath taken away by Black Knight of Carmodian who won the BOB that yaer. Whippets should drive from the rear, not merely walk, pushing nothing forward well.

Inadequate attention being paid to pedigree and far too much attention to coat colour -- people in the rest of the world are gutfounded with this preoccupation of so many of you with everything needing to be fawner shades of fawn... how darned boring in a breed where coat colour is supposed to be immaterial!!!

Dogs becoming far less masculine and doggy and far more bitchy, and overall poor quality of dogs overall. Please quit selling your males as pets and neutering them and start keeping some good dogs, because you are killing the English whippet by focusing so inordinately on bitches!

And, to get back to what started this panegyric for me -- fat and underconditioned dogs. Honest to heaven I have never seen so many overweight, unconditioned whippets as when I come to England and attend champ shows. I was over in October 2004 and attended South Yorkshire and Driffield, and found huge numbers of dogs that needed diets and more exercise. In one large class at South Yorkshire I counted 2 dogs out of 20 that I considered to be properly conditioned. The rest looked like their exercise comes from rolling off couches and ambling six steps over to the food dish before returning to the comfort of their beds. If my dogs looked like that I would give up breeding because I don't believe you get ever the best out of a fat, under-conditioned whippet.

Poor handling. Maybe some of those dogs really could move if you would quick holding them in a choke hold and stringing them up at your side. Let the poor dogs move out ahead of you on a loose lead and quit showing them like they are being led to their execution. Look at those who win the most and look how they show their dogs -- free, loose lead, well trained so you don't hear a constant chorus of "steady, steady" whispered as the class moves around the ring!

You can discount all I say, but the reality is, there are places in the world now -- particularly in Europe, where better whippets are being bred and shown because people with far fewer whippets to base their breeding programs on are paying more attention to breed quality, physiology and breed type and quality, and training, and far less to coat colour and whose face or hind end your kiss by breeding to their dog. Tonnage isn't what makes a breed great and keeps it great. Attention to breed type and quality by all the individuals in the breed is what makes and keeps a breed strong and great.

So all this to ask -- plaintively on my part -- is it possible for us to begin to focus more on these sort of concerns than whether this dog or that has lovely mascara on is face or not?

As a final note, perhaps I should say my farewells to all right now for posting this as I am sure I am going to have people intent on driving me off this forum for at least being honest and saying what I see and what I believe.

Lanny Morry

Avalonia Whippets, Canada

 

[Cartman]

Avalonia, you said what you truely belive. Fine. :lol:

 

[Seraphina]

As a final note, perhaps I should say my farewells to all right now for posting this as I am sure I am going to have people intent on driving me off this forum for at least being honest and saying what I see and what I believe.
Lanny Morry

Avalonia Whippets, Canada

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I think it should be OK to express out feelings and opinions, as long as they are not intended to be malicious. Constructive criticism should be welcome by all. :thumbsup: Lanny! Hope you stay!

 

[Millie]

:thumbsup: Well said Lanny !