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If dogs put up a bit of a struggle - are dog groomers allowed to use physical restraint techniques on them such as placing said dogs into headlocks in order to shave their neck area for example?
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If I saw my groomer using restraints like you describe it would be the last time she touched my dogs. Our groomer is amazing. She shows up in a van and the dogs are not just bathed, they have a jacuzzi! Our dogs hate having their nails done so she even purchased a sling that holds the whole weight of the dogs in the air so their little legs hang down and they don't mind their feet being touched at all when she uses it. No dog should feel distress when being groomed. I would look for someone else if I were you.If dogs put up a bit of a struggle - are dog groomers allowed to use physical restraint techniques on them such as placing said dogs into headlocks in order to shave their neck area for example?
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WOW, that sling sounds so cool! - I've never seen those here, can U post a link or a photo?
I wonder if the make those, stateside - I've never heard of 'em, & I've been in & out of big grooming salons with all sorts of gear - hydraulic grooming tables whose tops flip vertical, operated by foot pedals; power-clippers that have overhead AC-wiring on springs, to run the clippers, which prevent tangles or shocks & cord-wear / tripping; bath tubs with steps for the dog to mount & enter, allowing them to exit safely on their own [vs be lifted out]; bath tubs with FLOORS that rise as the water runs out!, to make the "tub" level with a waist-high landing that has stairs for egress & ingress; centralized shampoo & conditioner, with 5-gallon demijohns cabled to each bathtub & a push-button dispenser to deliver a measured amount... all sorts of bells & whistles.
But i've never seen a full-suspension dog sling.
Do they resemble scaled-down horse slings? - very cool concept, in any case.
- terry
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I am not exactly sure how to interpret or respond to your post other than a negative manner so I will try my best to be civil. Yes, working with any animal can be dangerous at times but resorting to lengths such as placing a dog in a headlock is pretty extreme if you ask me. If you're suggesting dog groomers are justified in doing said actions which I believe you are, I would never trust you with any type of animal and I would even go as far as turning any potential customers away from your business (I presume you're the woman in the video) since you justify those type of actions..
If U want to get into a lifelong p*ssing contest that becomes a simmering uncivil-war, sure!
Great idea - start an endless series of escalations; U use more force in an attempt to "restrain" the dog, they get more & more violent in an attempt to defend themselves from a perceived threat. How do U think it will end?
:--{ // My personal hunch: badly, with teeth in yer flesh, somewhere, sometime.
U **do** realize that dogs struggle when "restrained" / pinned / forced / manhandled BECAUSE they're frightened, yes?
They're not struggling 'cuz they're "dissing U", being stubborn, being DOMINANT, or just out of cussedness, to tick U off - they're scared. Holding them tighter won't reassure them! - it only convinces them that they're about to die.
If U want to groom a dog with the least stress to the animal & yerself, take yer time, use minimal restraint, & reward co-operation instead of rigidly forcing them to submit.
I'd use calmatives - DAP pump-spray, botanical lavender water; I'd get a copy of DVM Yin's Low Stress Handling textbook & DVD, I'd read it cover to cover, & I'd watch the live-demos attentively.
For dogs who've already suffered thru repeated high-stress, forcible grooming sessions, they may need to break it up into short bouts of 5 to 10-mins, or even come back for a finishing session 2 or 3 days later. // It's worth it to de-stress the process & get a committed clientele of owners who bring their dogs back, again & again.
OToH, if U like all-in wrestling an animal with 42 sharp teeth & faster reflexes than humans, have a good time.
:shrug: Totally up to U. // I don't like being bitten, myself, & i also don't like stressing an animal, nor do i enjoy yanking a resistive client around & forcing them to stand / sit / lay on their sides / stay in the tub / GODDAM HOLD STILL / etc.
I go with making the process as pleasant as possible, & building trust.
Sample: TUCKER -
an Airedale who's been forced, manhandled, & punished using increasingly-harsh methods since his owners got him as a pup, on the advice of their vet & several "trainers".Her husband now handles him with LINEMAN'S GAUNTLETS, & he will bite with full-force & full-mouth if U so much as try to comb him out, scissor, clip, or trim claws.
In this video, he's handled by asking him to PUT HIS PAW into someone's hand, & allow clipping - with a marker to identify the desired behavior for the dog, & treats to reward that behavior. it's real-time - at no point is he "made" to do anything. 7-minutes elapsed time.
IMO & IME, fighting a dog is only an option in a genuine emergency - which grooming is not. If someone is about to be bitten or the dog is about to be severely injured, do what U gotta; under any other circs, don't use force.
- terry
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A headlock???? If a groomer did that to my dog there would be a whole world of trouble landing on their head.
A good groomer should be able to calm a dog and work with a dog to get over any fear it has not increase the fear by using physical abuse.
My thoughts exactly.If anyone head locked my dog, there would be a whole world of trouble landing at their feet! I'm no dog whisper, merely just an owner, but if my dog was freaking out, i know trying to restrain him like that would make the situation a million times worse.
I understand the needs for restraints but becoming physical with a dog yourself is what crosses the line.I've never seen someone head lock a dog.....but groomers often do use restraint, yes. If people actually worked with their dogs at home, instead of expecting us to be able to brush, trim nails, clean ears, trim their dogs, etc. every six months, no issue, with them doing none of it at home, it'd be a lot easier. But sometimes you need to use some restraint for the safety of people and dogs. No one ever wants a dog flipping out so bad or so stressed they hurt themselves, of course. Sending dogs home without being done happens, but you can't just give up right away, when 95 percent of the dogs who come in for grooming aren't going to like, probably, a couple things you are doing.
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