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I'm having problems with Ruby pulling when she is on the lead. :- " I know she is 15 months old and I'm still thinking that maybe she'll grow out of it. Lacey on the other hand is an absolute angel o:) You wouldn't even know that she was on the lead she walks by my side perfectly. Any advice would be gratefully recieved :thumbsup: x
 
Naughty Ruby..........i must have got the perfect one and you

got the naughty one :*

 

Seriously though K pulls on the way out but walks lovely on

the way home, i'll be interested to see what replies you get :thumbsup:
 
A Gencon headcollar. It is in the shape of a figure 8 and although it goes round the muzzle it actually tightens like a slip collar behind the ears so you don't get the awful pressure around the mouth like on a normal Halti so they don't fight it. I find it has a calming effect on mine as well.
 
Have you seen 'dog borstal' it was on TV tonight ?

They do a trick we were taught at training class.....

you've got to practise while not on a mission going anywhere specific as what you do is every time they pull - you quickly turn and lead them back in the opposite direction ( you feel a bit stupid if anyones watching and you don't get far at first.....but it really does work !)

Also when they try to barge in front of you, just keep putting your leg out in front of their path ( you end up walking funny with this as well (w00t) )

and around the house you can put them on a lead and when you come to a narrow pass, eg: doorway, you make them let you go through first, teaching them they are second and they have to have good manners :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
had great success with one mine using the head collar
 
Skye is 6 months and generally walks well but pulls on the way to somewhere she wants to get to. Having something tasty in my hand, calling her name and then giving the treat when she looks up and relaxed from the pulling works for me when I have the patience :- " :D . You can then add a command like 'heel' or I prefer 'with me'.

Works really well when I put the effort in but she is still young and bouncy :) . A jerk on the lead and a 'no' and praise when she walks nicely helps too :) . :luck: :luck:
 
you've got to practise while not on a mission going anywhere specific as what you do is every time they pull - you quickly turn and lead them back in the opposite direction ( you feel a bit stupid if anyones watching and you don't get far at first.....but it really does work !)

 

Also when they try to barge in front of you, just keep putting your leg out in front of their path ( you end up walking funny with this as well )

Gypsy sometimes tries it on and pulls like a steam train............i have done the above and it works a treat :thumbsup:

just be careful you dont turn to fast and fall over :b
 
Dessie that headcollar sounds good.. :thumbsup:

I have two pullers in Oscar and Archie..and I must say walking three can be quite a handful at times... my little arms ache sometimes... :lol:

Its great being able to let them off though....let the steam off as such...then they dont pull so much on the way home... :thumbsup:
 
dessie said:
A Gencon headcollar.  It is in the shape of a figure 8 and although it goes round the muzzle it actually tightens like a slip collar behind the ears so you don't get the awful pressure around the mouth like on a normal Halti so they don't fight it.  I find it has a calming effect on mine as well.
i have one of these for daisy its great as its not too harsh like some of them and doesnt pull up under her eye :thumbsup:
 
affieluver said:
dessie said:
A Gencon headcollar.  It is in the shape of a figure 8 and although it goes round the muzzle it actually tightens like a slip collar behind the ears so you don't get the awful pressure around the mouth like on a normal Halti so they don't fight it.  I find it has a calming effect on mine as well.
i have one of these for daisy its great as its not too harsh like some of them and doesnt pull up under her eye :thumbsup:

where can you buy these..has anyone got a link for them please... :thumbsup:
 
Janimal said:
affieluver said:
dessie said:
A Gencon headcollar.  It is in the shape of a figure 8 and although it goes round the muzzle it actually tightens like a slip collar behind the ears so you don't get the awful pressure around the mouth like on a normal Halti so they don't fight it.  I find it has a calming effect on mine as well.
i have one of these for daisy its great as its not too harsh like some of them and doesnt pull up under her eye :thumbsup:

where can you buy these..has anyone got a link for them please... :thumbsup:

I used the all-in-one Gencon on Muffin and found that if it went a bit loose, he could back out of it. Maybe that would be solved by using just the head collar and a separate lead (you can get both sorts). I've started using the Canny Collar now and although he's not keen at least it stops most of the pulling. :thumbsup:

Just had a look at the site and I see they do the all-in-ones with a clip lead to attach to the collar - that would stop the worry of the dog pulling out. :)
 
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:thumbsup: ive got a puller aswell, ive just looked on ebay and the gencon, head collar and all in one is listed between £10-£12 :thumbsup:
 
dessie said:
A Gencon headcollar.  It is in the shape of a figure 8 and although it goes round the muzzle it actually tightens like a slip collar behind the ears so you don't get the awful pressure around the mouth like on a normal Halti so they don't fight it.  I find it has a calming effect on mine as well.

Any chance of having a look at yours first Dessie ( Collar, that is :oops: :lol: )Will you be at SYWC ot rMidland counties ? i
 
I'm going to get one of the head collars for Logan - he can be a real pain for pulling and now at nearly 2, he is a big strong boy.

Thanks for the tip dessie :cheers:
 
I've had great results with a Halti harness. And even using an ordinary harness with lead attached to both collar and harness (my leads have clips at either ends) helps. Note -- no-pull harnesses and headcollars work when you use them; they do not train your dog not to pull. Unless you work at training, your puller is likely to revert to old habits when you use an ordinary collar without the harness or headcollar.
 
I've got a real puller (who walks on his back legs when he's excited! like his mother does) and he is so strong .. I use a Dogmatic headcollar for him and it's marvellous. There's no way I can walk him without it. Gentle Leader headcollar was no good for him because it rode up under his eyes and sort of twisted round. The Dogmatic doesn't do that, it stays put and is very soft and gentle on his face.
 
Thanks guys for all your advice, I'll take it all on board and let you know how I get on x :thumbsup:
 
Sorry I am always replying to a new Topic days after the event (We have been away for a week with the pups down at the coast)

Macha said:
I've had great results with a Halti harness. And even using an ordinary harness with lead attached to both collar and harness (my leads have clips at either ends) helps. Note -- no-pull harnesses and headcollars work when you use them; they do not train your dog not to pull. Unless you work at training, your puller is likely to revert to old habits when you use an ordinary collar without the harness or headcollar.

Just to add something to what Macha has said

Rarely or if ever will a head collar train your dog not to pull

Don't get me wrong I have used a "Halti" in the past and they are great for the short term

But I would just like to recommend a book by Cesar Millan called "Cesar's Way" Harmony Books

He runs daily with a pack of 40 or so dogs with or behind him, most are off lead and some are on death row due to there behavior.

Basically he talks about dog psychology and the way he "rehabilitates dogs and trains people"

The big thing I got out of his book was that we can't be the pack leader some of the time or even most of the time, we must be the pack leader all of the time

He says that as soon as you stop being the pack leader the dog feels he must take your place (someone has to lead)

When it comes to pulling on lead he says

 

"Always leave the room before your dog"

 

"You are the leader in the house and you need to show your dog that you are the leader outside his home as well"

 

"To be the leader you need to be "Calm-Assertive" and give off "Calm-Assertive Energy" as you walk your dog and be the pack leader"

I have had great results with my two Whippets over the past month after applying his ideas

Nockie has been a shocker on lead as she is very head strong and I was just not leading her 100% of the time. Any trouble I have had with her on lead has been my fault not hers. When she sees that I am not leading the pack she takes over. It's imprinted into her DNA she can't help it, someone must lead the pack.

This book can be a bit tricky to get hold of at book shops. We ordered it via the net and it took quite some time to arrive but it was worth it just for the great results I have had when my dogs are on lead.
 
Schmick said:
Sorry I am always replying to a new Topic days after the event (We have been away for a week with the pups down at the coast)
Macha said:
I've had great results with a Halti harness. And even using an ordinary harness with lead attached to both collar and harness (my leads have clips at either ends) helps. Note -- no-pull harnesses and headcollars work when you use them; they do not train your dog not to pull. Unless you work at training, your puller is likely to revert to old habits when you use an ordinary collar without the harness or headcollar.

Just to add something to what Macha has said

Rarely or if ever will a head collar train your dog not to pull

Don't get me wrong I have used a "Halti" in the past and they are great for the short term

But I would just like to recommend a book by Cesar Millan called "Cesar's Way" Harmony Books

He runs daily with a pack of 40 or so dogs with or behind him, most are off lead and some are on death row due to there behavior.

Basically he talks about dog psychology and the way he "rehabilitates dogs and trains people"

The big thing I got out of his book was that we can't be the pack leader some of the time or even most of the time, we must be the pack leader all of the time

He says that as soon as you stop being the pack leader the dog feels he must take your place (someone has to lead)

When it comes to pulling on lead he says

 

"Always leave the room before your dog"

 

"You are the leader in the house and you need to show your dog that you are the leader outside his home as well"

 

"To be the leader you need to be "Calm-Assertive" and give off "Calm-Assertive Energy" as you walk your dog and be the pack leader"

I have had great results with my two Whippets over the past month after applying his ideas

Nockie has been a shocker on lead as she is very head strong and I was just not leading her 100% of the time. Any trouble I have had with her on lead has been my fault not hers. When she sees that I am not leading the pack she takes over. It's imprinted into her DNA she can't help it, someone must lead the pack.

This book can be a bit tricky to get hold of at book shops. We ordered it via the net and it took quite some time to arrive but it was worth it just for the great results I have had when my dogs are on lead.


A great reply. This is a method I have used for the last seven years and a half years. I think the main thing though in correcting any dog behaviour issues is admitting to yourself that first there is a problem and second and more importantly that it is yourself that is the cause of it. That is the hardest pill to swallow but is something that is necessary before you can actually train a dog effectively.
 

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