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[SIZE=10pt]Due to upsetting & unexpected circumstances, Byron needs a home- can you help?[/SIZE]​



(Very long post, sorry.)




I hadn't mentioned it on K9, as I wanted to see if things sorted themselves out, but I can now let you know that Clara has been rehomed, and Byron is looking for a new place to live.

The problem that has led to this is not directly anything to do with Byron, though- it's because of Clara and Daisy. In the past 3 or 4 years, Clara and Daisy have had a couple of fights, but things have escalated very quickly, and they have had 3 extremely serious fights within the last month. When I say 'fights', I mean proper, savage fights, which have necessitated trips to the vet in the middle of the night for emergency treatment. I honestly don't know what the problem is, because nothing obvious like one dog stealing the other's food etc, has triggered the attacks. Daisy was the one who initiated the fights, (through some perceived fear, maybe?) but Clara was the more vicious, and each time, peppered Daisy with severe bite wounds, one of which went right through the main vein on the side of Daisy's face, and which could have killed her due to blood loss and shock if we hadn't got her to the vet straight away. Byron was never involved, but it made me a bit uneasy whenever he tried to pester the girls.

For the past couple of weeks we've been keeping all the dogs apart from each other, ie: a rotation of one dog in a crate upstairs, one loose upstairs and one loose downstairs. This system was making everyone unhappy, so we had to make the difficult decision to rehome 2 of the dogs, and keep the remaining one as an 'only dog.'

Fortunately, Jo and Scott Frodsham said they would have Clara on a trial basis, with a view to keeping her if everything goes well. I was a bit concerned, seeing as Clara had been extremely vicious with Daisy, but after talking it through, Jo and Scott still wanted to have Clara, and decided to take the risk. Clara has been with the Frodshams & their 7 other whippets for about 5 days now, and everything is going brilliantly (well, with Clara anyway- Jo and Scott have got a lot on their plate at the moment, with Diesel being injured.)

So we had to decide which of the remaining 2 dogs to keep. We initially decided to rehome Daisy, and even got as far as organising a temporary assessment home with Julie Morgan of Sheya Greyhound and Lurcher Rescue. But then late last night, after many tears, my parents (who I still live with) and myself, decided that Daisy needs us now more than ever- especially because since the attacks, Daisy has become ultra-nervous- the slightest noise or sudden movement terrifies her, she was scared every time Byron bounced up to, or near her, and even though she used to be fine with meeting other dogs on her walks, she is a nervous wreck if a dog is anywhere in sight, and she tries to run home. Daisy is such a bag of nerves that she is having to take diazepam (the drug that, in human medicine, used to be known as Valium) twice a day just to try and get her to relax. We felt that, since Daisy has lived with us for almost 5 years, and that from a rehoming point of view, would be very difficult to rehome due to the history of violence, her precarious nervous state, and the fact that she's 5½ years old already, that she should stay with us, in her familiar environment, as our only dog, so that she gets our undivided attention and TLC. Also, Daisy has always been special to me, as she was my first whippet, and when I went to the breeder, she chose me as much as I chose her. I also think that being taken away from us and thrown into an alien environment with alien people, would only increase her already fragile mental state. Byron, on the other hand, is still only 13½ weeks old, and is healthy (the fits stopped after the first 3 weeks, and he was declared healthy by the vet,) and he is a beautiful blue colour, so I think not only would he be 'snapped up' by potential new owners, but he would adapt to the situation much better.

Jill (Owner of Byron's mother, Buffy- K9 ID: buffyrannoch) and Susan (Owner of Byron's father, Robbie- K9 ID: Susan) are aware of the situation, and they are going to try and help me find a new home for Byron, but if anyone out there thinks they could offer Byron a home, then please email me at ros@rattus.co.uk or phone 01253 739405. I live in Lytham St. Annes, (about 8 miles south of Blackpool, in Lancashire,) and though it would be helpful if Byron was collected from our house, we could maybe take him to his new owner, or at least meet them halfway, depending on the distance. He has had all his vaccinations, and has almost finished his course of worming tablets, and is microchipped (I can supply the documentation for transferral of registered owner) and we would throw in some of his favourite toys and things- but to cover the costs of these, and bearing in mind we paid £250 for him only 7 weeks ago, plus we have paid for his vets' consultations, jabs & worming tablets we would really need to be paid a similar £250 by the new owner. I would really like to keep in touch with his new owner(s), and follow his progress as he gets older. Ideally, it would also be nice if the new owner(s) would keep his name as Byron, as he responds to it- although, at the end of the day, it's up to the owners. Please note that Byron is a non-pedigree whippet, although his father is a champion non-pedigree racing dog. (Rch Guess Who?)

I hope everyone will understand why we are doing this- we certainly haven't made the decision to rehome Clara and Byron lightly, and we certainly don't believe that dogs are disposable- we just didn't think it was right for Clara and Daisy to be living together, and staying in crates most of the time, or that we could keep Byron at the expense of Daisy's health.

If someone out there thinks they could offer Byron a good home, or knows someone who could, please get in touch.





Byron- Taken on 13th April




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You did the right thing to rehome one of the bitches. From my experience, once they start to fight like this nothing will stop them until one of them ends up dead. It is a dreadful strain to live in a house where you must always worry about keeping them appart. But why are you rehoming the puppy? You should not have any problem between a bitch and a male. If you feel that there is no other way, you should not expect to get for him what you paid for him. Anyway it seems to me like a lot of money for unregistered pet.

:luck: :luck: :luck:

Hope you will find a good home for him

Lida
 
I don't mean to be nasty - you've obviously gone through a lot of heartache about this. I can't begin to imagine how I'd feel if one of our own two had to be rehomed :( .

As you may know, I have a dog in my home just now who I took in until a new home was found for him. In the last couple of months we have paid for everything for him - neutering, worming, food, bedding, training gear, toys, replacing things he's destroyed :wacko: - all the things a puppy needs (our own dogs don't even want to share his toys with him!). I am not complaining - we would never have taken him in if the money was going to be a huge problem.

Despite this outlay (both from myself and my workplace), I would never ask for money back. All I want to do is find the little monster a loving family home. He is NOT free to a good home, as a donation to a local dog charity who have helped me publicise him will be requested.

I don't necessarily think you are a bad person - but I think putting a price on him in your post was tactless. And I do wonder why you brought a puppy into a home where the current residents were not living in harmony already. I really hope the wee man gets somewhere lovely to spend his days with the security he needs. :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
Must admit, I ended up paying out to get one of my pups back to me after the couple who owned him split up. I can't say I thought it was right but ultimately, the well being of the dog is number one priority. Harvey (the pup I recovered) now lives happily at an aunts home and I hope that Byron ends up in a safe happy home. :luck:

Jac
 
I'm sorry for your problems and hope Clara is settled with Scott and Jo and that Daisy regains her confidence.

I am just having a few problems understanding why you need to rehome little Byron. I understand separating the girls, but as you have said, Byron isn't really the problem. Part of me feels desparately sad for the horrible decision you have to make, but the other part is not very comfortable with the situation. I think it was possibly unwise to stress the money as such a big issue, finding a perfect home is surely much more important?

I hope this little man does find a smashing home, there is bound to be some-one who will be pleased as punch to have him.
 
Well i've thought about this post since seeing it early today, as I read it a felt realy sorry for you having to find him a new home but thought how responsible you were being in making that hard decission to let him go! but as I got to the bottom of the post and read about how much he'd cost and so how much you wanted back so that you would not be out of pocket (so to speak) words fail me as I have to agree with Scott and advise that you bite the bullet and accept a loss (even if a big 1) and just find him a good home rather than who will pay the asking price.

whippet rescue have some great homes waiting for whippets that have been well vetted ect.

but at the end of the day it's not our decissions to make! and it's down to whats most important to you? Money or the dog being in a happy home.

Clara has definatly landed on her feet with Scott & Joey.
 
Yep I'd donate too.

To be honest I think he's gorgeous and would love him myself but I think he needs a special home where he doesn't have to share with other dogs. Especially if he's witnessed other dogs fighting etc, it may have affected his ability to socialise with other dogs.
 
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Susan, I would speak to Oh tonight about the puppy if you havnt found a home yet. ( or are the old couple still interested)

Janis
 
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Sorry to hear what has happened.

I don't think it is right for anyone to comment on these circumstances and start a debate and cause more upset.

Good luck in finding a home for Byron. I wish i could have him, but I'm sure someone will offer you a good home.
 
I will take Byron at the drop of a hat, especially as he is Macey's brother, but need to discuss it more with OH.
 
If money is so unimportant, and it is purely a good home that matters then why do breeders charge so much for their puppies and stud fees, if breeding a pup for yourself why not just keep one and give the rest to good homes,I mean come on lets be realistic here of course the good home is the most important but Rosalind is in an upsetting and unfortunate position and god forbid that I would ever be in the same, she could have just put an ad in the paper and flogged the pup off to the first nobody, but she put him on here knowing he would get a good home the fact that she paid £250 for him seeming expensive is down to the breeder not her, she bought him 7 weeks ago why shouldn't she want to recoup some of the cost, we haven't all got money to burn, also she did state in her post that her girl was too nervous to cope with the puppy because her nerves were so bad, what makes me laugh most of all is that when people want to get rid of a show bred pup because it doesn't look right and isn't perfect everybody is awww sorry to hear that hope they get a good home, thats not a pet its an ornament, sorry but it has to be said just because she mentioned money it all blows up, it's bad enough that she's had to come to this, a bit of support might have helped.

Anyway sorry if I've upset anybody but i say what I think

BTW I can give a dog a fabulous home and life and nobody rushed to give me a free pup I paid for her because she was worth it just like Rosalind did
 
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I opened this thread thinking I was going to read a sad post about a person doing the right thing by their dogs. It started out that way... but as I scrolled down I was really shocked by some of the "brutally honest" responses. Some of these posts appear quite vicious, even if they may not have been intended to be so.

Nobody on the outside can know exactly what is going with a situation and therefore we can't possibly judge someone so harshly. Re-homing a much-loved pet must be the hardest decision to come to, and even more difficult to carry out. Rosalind has been honest enough to say she would like some money - and why on earth shouldn't someone pay for a puppy? I did. Most of us did! There are rarely free whippet puppies.

Good luck, Rosalind, I hope you find little Byron exactly the right sort of home, and that you do manage to keep in touch and follow his progress. He's a super-looking little chap, and you must be heartbroken about the whole situation.

Regarding money - who's to say what is a reasonable price for a puppy? A breeder has the same costs in rearing the litter in a decent way, whether the puppies have a pedigree or not. But that is a side issue, and should be on a different thread for open discussion.
 
:( I hope I didn't sound brutal...................It was certainly not my intention to do so
 
O.M.G~ I hope & PRAY i never have to go through what you have Rosalind :( ever. Our two girls have had a few punch ups but luckily not too much damage :- " we think ours is mainly due to that time of the 6 monthlys.........

hope your little boy falls on his feet in a great home :huggles:

Caz x
 
What a sad story :(

Hope Byron finds a good happy home.

Julie
 
Best of luck to you :luck:

I think most people expect to pay around £350 plus for a pedigree whippet without jabs and microchips???
 
Sorry to hear you have to part with your Clara and Byron, Rosiland. :(

I noticed you put your street address on your original post. I don't think that this is a very good idea. Think you should contact Nigel and see if he can remove it for you.

Best of Luck :luck: :luck:
 
I can't belive how brutal this thread has become :eek: I can't even begin to think what Rosalind is going through let alone judge her!

Good luck Rosalind with rehoming Byron, I certainly don't think you're wrong asking for money for your pup, if I did I wouldn't have my Whippet would I?! :)
 
*Lesley* said:
what makes me laugh most of all is that when  people want to get rid of a  show bred pup because it doesn't look right and isn't perfect everybody is awww sorry to hear that hope they get a good home, thats not a pet its an ornament, sorry but it has to be said just because she mentioned money it all blows up, it's bad enough that she's had to come to this, a bit of support might have helped.

I couldn't agree more Lesley, I really don't know what's happened on this thread?! :blink:
 
LasVegasNo1 said:
*Lesley* said:
what makes me laugh most of all is that when  people want to get rid of a  show bred pup because it doesn't look right and isn't perfect everybody is awww sorry to hear that hope they get a good home, thats not a pet its an ornament, sorry but it has to be said just because she mentioned money it all blows up, it's bad enough that she's had to come to this, a bit of support might have helped.

I couldn't agree more Lesley, I really don't know what's happened on this thread?! :blink:

Me either las vegas, just to put things into perspective, I would like to add that I am not singling out the show community with my comment, as I also have the same view on racing bred pups if they don't perform as expected, as I have dogs from both show and racing lines I have met a lot of wonderful K9's from both sides, but I am just very dissapointed with what I have read today :(
 
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