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Just An Observation!

Discussion in 'Hound' started by ~whitecross whippets~, May 25, 2006.

  1. ~whitecross whippets~

    ~whitecross whippets~ New Member Registered

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    it seems to me that even if i started a thread about the weather....the same old few k9ers always end up making the same point about the same thing -_- ... oh well at least they are predictable...but ever so subtle! :thumbsup:

    however it seems i have found the answer to my original question.....as with most things on k9.....it seems if you have the right friends you can do what you like and if you havent .....well...... i think its obvious :thumbsup:
     
  2. dawn

    dawn New Member Registered

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    You asked a question and you got answers I personally refrained from posting on this thread.

    What do u mean about the same old K9's and there so called friends? after following this thread and many of the others u have posted I cannot see where u are coming from. People who dont normally post on topics like this have joined in and given u an answer.

    I dont know wether you are just trying to stir trouble up again or wether you genuinely dont know u are doing it??
     
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    masta New Member Registered

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  4. imperative

    imperative New Member Registered

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    interesting question
     
  5. Rae

    Rae New Member Registered

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    I didnt mean that using K9 guaranteed a good home, but that if a good home could be found by using K9, then that's OK with me, as long as it means the best for the dog. That's not to say that I agree with irresponsible breeding and rehoming obviously.
     
  6. ~Sarah~

    ~Sarah~ Active Member Registered

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    I thought this was a very well considered reply to a potentially 'difficult' topic.

    There are many reasons why whippets may be rehomed and I don't think we should sit in judgement as we are often not fully informed of the circumstances.

    I think in some ways it is sad when a dog has to be rehomed, but they do seem to adapt very quickly to a new environment. The recent photos of Tam rehomed with his sister Molly just goes to show how quickly he seemed to have settled in. (Correct me if I have got their names wrong).

    Show people, as well as racing people, rehome adult dogs or older puppies they have run on. My first whippet was one of these, and very glad I was that they gave me the opportunity to have him. He lived to be 13+ years old and I adored him.

    What I find strange on K9 is the double standards that sometimes seems to creep in. Show dogs in the USA/Australia are sometimes moved to different parts of the country in order to 'gain a title' (not sure if that is the right expression), and then moved back home again. No-one ever criticises that, but it is basically rehoming and then rehoming again. But someone wanting to rehome a puppy a while back on here was really slated. :( I feel the most important thing is the welfare of the dog and the suitability of the new home to the dog's needs.

    I don't think breeding should take place unless a lot of knowledge about the breed/genetics has been gained, but it is very hard (as Lesley said) for first-time breeders as they have yet to make their name and therefore don't have loads of homes waiting for pups. Everyone had to start somewhere didn't they?

    I sometimes think if every single person here on K9 said next time I have another dog I will rehome one (whippet, greyhound or lurcher) instead of getting a lovely cute puppy, wouldn't that help a huge number of sad dogs needing a new home. :luck:
     
  7. ~Helen~

    ~Helen~ Warrior Queen Registered

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    :b ah, but I've read on other threads that you don't want to be doing that either, because it is apparently onsidered suspicious if a breeder owns both sir and dam :blink:

    What a mine field :(

    edited to say that I don't think advertising or mentioning litters available should be banned from K9. Without it, I too wouldn't have Josie and then obviously not Lola. I'd have just joined an endless waiting list somewhere, or prayed to strike lucky with rehoming a whippet from the local rescue, which I was doing until I realised that most couldn't be rehomes with cats or young children (as so many homing centres seem to state) :(

    At least with K9 people have come here because of a love of whippets and because they've thought long and hard, and have done some research (hence finding K9). On Epupz type boards or similar, there is a possibility that people aren't looking specifically for a whippet.
     
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  8. Whippets Rule

    Whippets Rule New Member Registered

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    I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

    I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

    So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

    Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

    I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

    I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.
     
  9. *Lesley*

    *Lesley* Grand Master...Fluffy & nice Registered

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    :oops: :oops: Consider me a possible suspicious character :- " :teehee:
     
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  10. ~Helen~

    ~Helen~ Warrior Queen Registered

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    :lol: didn't we always know that, Lesley??! :clown: :huggles:
     
  11. lalena

    lalena New Member Registered

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    strike whippets wasnt having a go. what she was trying to get across was that sometimes people looking to buy their first dog are, not stupid, but naive as it were. because they dont know what to look for, what questions to ask etc. because they arent very informed, they are ripe for the picking by puppy farmers and their ilk, whos only customers (FACT) are those new to dogs or others like themselves who dont care.

    if you had no experience of dogs, would you know about worming/jabs/breed specific health problems/feeding/breed characteristics/pet insurance/kc registration/age before a bitch should be bred from/how many litters a bitch is allowed to have....then more practical things, like how destructive pups can be, how much time, attention and care they require (there are people out there who really dont know. they expect a cute fluffy bundle thats well behaved, without putting any effort into the training)
     
  12. Lynn-Alexandria

    Lynn-Alexandria Grand Master Undead Fighter Registered

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    Trying to stir up trouble? For goodness sakes she asked a genuine question regarding an observation she had made. How can you call that stirring up trouble? Her original question from what I can gather was this

    On K9 she had noticed that ped people jumped on those who were trying to rehome a ped dog. Yet non ped dogs were coming up for rehoming a lot more and yet nothing is said on that post...her question was why the ped people jumped on those rehoming ped dogs but not non ped dogs.

    If I have taken this completely wrong then Im sorry but I dont know how you can say that whitecross has been trying to stir up trouble.
     
  13. Whippets Rule

    Whippets Rule New Member Registered

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    Before i got my first dog i read everything i could possibly lay my hands on with regard to veterinary care,training,behaviour problems, breed traits etc as do many many people considering the purchase of a dog.

    You don't get behind the wheel of a car unless you know how to drive it so why would you buy a dog unless you know how to care for it.

    If people are saying something about certain types of people maybe they should say so rather than making the generalised sweeping statements which frequently appear on here. ;)
     
  14. lalena

    lalena New Member Registered

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    its good you did your homework :thumbsup: but not everyone does. then you get the 'impulse buyers' who on the spur of the moment think 'ooh, i'll buy a puppy'. while a good breeder would set these people straight, bad breeders wouldnt :(
     
  15. Lynn-Alexandria

    Lynn-Alexandria Grand Master Undead Fighter Registered

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    I agree with you there. Too many dogs are ending up in shelters because of impulse buying. Someone who wakes up one morning and thinks "I think I'll buy a dog today" and by the end of the day have the dog. It makes me sick! :rant: They have no idea of the responsibility that they are taking on and usually no idea of the breed they have bought. It is essential that research is done when getting a dog becuase it is not just a case of buying it and thats it. There is training, feeding, health care and everything else to consider. When you get a dog your responsible for another life, you need to ensure that you can take proper care of the dog and give it the best that you can give.
     
  16. *Lesley*

    *Lesley* Grand Master...Fluffy & nice Registered

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    Cheeky :teehee: :lol:
     
  17. posh totty

    posh totty whippet servant Registered

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    i say nothing lesley! lol :- "
     
  18. ~Helen~

    ~Helen~ Warrior Queen Registered

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    That's what I was trying to say about some people who might go to some websites of the Epupz type, not necessarily looking for a whippet but any puppy without thinking it through.
     
  19. Lynn-Alexandria

    Lynn-Alexandria Grand Master Undead Fighter Registered

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    In some aspects yes I agree that websites such as Epupz are a problem. Dogs are far too easy to get a hold of through here. However the breeders who advertise on epupz should vet people who contact them through there looking for a dog. Doesn't it in a sense come down to the breeder doing the best for their litter by ensuring that their pups go to good loving knowledgable homes?
     
  20. Lynn-Alexandria

    Lynn-Alexandria Grand Master Undead Fighter Registered

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    Just read over what I said. When I say dogs are far too easy to get a hold of here I meant the internet in general...not aiming it specifically at K9.
     

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