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it seems to me that even if i started a thread about the weather....the same old few k9ers always end up making the same point about the same thing -_- ... oh well at least they are predictable...but ever so subtle! :thumbsup:

however it seems i have found the answer to my original question.....as with most things on k9.....it seems if you have the right friends you can do what you like and if you havent .....well...... i think its obvious :thumbsup:

 

[dawn]

it seems to me that even if i started a thread about the weather....the same old few k9ers always end up making the same point about the same thing -_- ... oh well at least they are predictable...but ever so subtle! :thumbsup: however it seems i have found the answer to my original question.....as with most things on k9.....it seems if you have the right friends you can do what you like and if you havent .....well...... i think its obvious :thumbsup:

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You asked a question and you got answers I personally refrained from posting on this thread.

What do u mean about the same old K9's and there so called friends? after following this thread and many of the others u have posted I cannot see where u are coming from. People who dont normally post on topics like this have joined in and given u an answer.

I dont know wether you are just trying to stir trouble up again or wether you genuinely dont know u are doing it??

 

[masta]

What I am curious about though is what do you do if you want to breed a litter for a puppy for yourself and don't don't have a queue of potential buyers because you don't move within the whippet circles how are you supposed to let people know you have puppies available :unsure: it seems every form of advertising is a no no, on K9 ,epupz, loot just about everywhere  :unsure:

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Well for a start off unless you had a mate down the street with a whippet dog then i'd expect you'd find it pretty hard to find a stud if you "don't move within the whippet circles".

Someone would have to give me a VERY good excuse to breed from a bitch just for the sake of keeping one back for themselves if they didn't know of anyone wanting pups. There's enough unwanted dogs as it is without adding to the growing number by breeding a litter of 6 just coz you wanted one. very irresponsible imo

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So basically if I want to breed from one of my girls because I would like to keep their line going, or just because of the fact I would love to have a puppy from a dog which I know to be sound in all ways so chances of producing puppies of the same temperament are increased, which is a VERY good reason IMO whats a better one breeding for money ect , also there would never be any unwanted puppies/ dogs in this house :wub:

I would have to

1.Know lots of whippet people who would hopefully ring me on the off chance and ask when I was having a litter because I am not supposed to advertise the fact and I am not a known breeder :unsure:

2.Make a list of these people a least 10+ incase of a big litter, all checked for suitability to make sure I definitely had homes for them or to compensate for people dropping out :unsure:

3.Buy myself a stud dog as it would be irresponsible of me to ask someone else to use theirs :unsure:

To be honest I am surprised whippets aren’t extinct I might as well go get my girls speyed tomorrow but that’s another thread isn’t it

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You forgot

4. A big garden which is has a secure fence not too close to a busy road or noisy children

5. A large estate car/van with aircon and dog seat belts

6. no single parents

7. no other dogs

(w00t) (w00t) (w00t)

 

[imperative]

interesting question

 

[Rae]

There are some people who only use this site to advertise litters or unwanted dogs, but even then if it means the dogs get a good home what the hell?

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But do they? That's a bit of a sweeping statement Rae. I can think of several who have ended up going back to the breeder or being rehomed.

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I didnt mean that using K9 guaranteed a good home, but that if a good home could be found by using K9, then that's OK with me, as long as it means the best for the dog. That's not to say that I agree with irresponsible breeding and rehoming obviously.

 

[~Sarah~]

I've read the whole thread, because I can't sleep - again.  Sad.  But here goes ... no-one can be judgemental about why people have to rehome dogs.  None of us knows what lies around the corner in Life and circumstances do change.  The best the owner can do, is try to ensure that the dogs go to good, loving homes..... 
The person who talked about their sport, and having to move dogs on to make room for younger racers has hit the nail on the head for the committed whippet racer.  Some people like their hobby so much that the hobby, and not the 'tool' for the hobby is of paramount importance, and so they too, must try to find good homes for the dogs whose racing career is at an end.  And why not?  People in the show world do much the same thing with their young dogs don't they?  The chosen few are 'run-on', and if they don't make the grade, then they (some/most who call themselves 'breeders') sell them to pet homes and begin again.  All in the quest for perfection.  These dogs have a purpose, and that is to win. This in itself leads to the 'production' of excess stock.  You may have the reputation of being a 'good breeder', but how did you get this reputation without breeding your first few litters?  At some point you had to begin a breeding programme!  Did you have more than enough homes lined up for your pups without the reputation?  No?  So isn't this where the excess comes from?  People who want to embark upon breeding programmes - and then do so, have to find homes for the pups that go unsold.  Then when those pups do well, people in 'the know' begin to consider their stock when looking to buy.  And how can there be too many whippets when the one constant is people saying I had to wait... months/year/etc.  So there can't be that many!!!!

What is worse than breeding without homes lined up is irresponsible breeding without paying attention to soundness and quality......  :- "

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I thought this was a very well considered reply to a potentially 'difficult' topic.

There are many reasons why whippets may be rehomed and I don't think we should sit in judgement as we are often not fully informed of the circumstances.

I think in some ways it is sad when a dog has to be rehomed, but they do seem to adapt very quickly to a new environment. The recent photos of Tam rehomed with his sister Molly just goes to show how quickly he seemed to have settled in. (Correct me if I have got their names wrong).

Show people, as well as racing people, rehome adult dogs or older puppies they have run on. My first whippet was one of these, and very glad I was that they gave me the opportunity to have him. He lived to be 13+ years old and I adored him.

What I find strange on K9 is the double standards that sometimes seems to creep in. Show dogs in the USA/Australia are sometimes moved to different parts of the country in order to 'gain a title' (not sure if that is the right expression), and then moved back home again. No-one ever criticises that, but it is basically rehoming and then rehoming again. But someone wanting to rehome a puppy a while back on here was really slated. I feel the most important thing is the welfare of the dog and the suitability of the new home to the dog's needs.

I don't think breeding should take place unless a lot of knowledge about the breed/genetics has been gained, but it is very hard (as Lesley said) for first-time breeders as they have yet to make their name and therefore don't have loads of homes waiting for pups. Everyone had to start somewhere didn't they?

I sometimes think if every single person here on K9 said next time I have another dog I will rehome one (whippet, greyhound or lurcher) instead of getting a lovely cute puppy, wouldn't that help a huge number of sad dogs needing a new home. :luck:

 

[~Helen~]

3.Buy myself a stud dog as it would be irresponsible of me to ask someone else to use theirs

:b ah, but I've read on other threads that you don't want to be doing that either, because it is apparently onsidered suspicious if a breeder owns both sir and dam :blink:

What a mine field

edited to say that I don't think advertising or mentioning litters available should be banned from K9. Without it, I too wouldn't have Josie and then obviously not Lola. I'd have just joined an endless waiting list somewhere, or prayed to strike lucky with rehoming a whippet from the local rescue, which I was doing until I realised that most couldn't be rehomes with cats or young children (as so many homing centres seem to state)

At least with K9 people have come here because of a love of whippets and because they've thought long and hard, and have done some research (hence finding K9). On Epupz type boards or similar, there is a possibility that people aren't looking specifically for a whippet.

 

[Whippets Rule]

I can't comment about the non peds as I haven't enough time in the day to read all of k9, so I stick to the ped and general forums  :thumbsup:   ........but I can say that most peddie owners KEEP their peddie pup for LIFE  :thumbsup: ...... not many dogs are ever rehomed because they are our pets  (and I mean not many)......and if they race etc ...its a bonus ...........There have been a few ped owners who really are frowned upon for passing on dogs, or even worse, breeding a litter/litters then passing on a dog that "dosn't make the grade    :rant:   ) ......but luckily peddie people know who they are  :thumbsup:   ...........I guess the peddie lot are trying to be careful, but if you notice the often rehomers/over breeders are only liked by the "newbies"  :unsure: ......and the peddie lot don't buy pups from them, .......just a shame that pet owners are easily swayed    .......Just my opinion though ........Hannah 

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I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.

 

[*Lesley*]

3.Buy myself a stud dog as it would be irresponsible of me to ask someone else to use theirs

:b ah, but I've read on other threads that you don't want to be doing that either, because it is apparently onsidered suspicious if a breeder owns both sir and dam :blink:

What a mine field

edited to say that I don't think advertising or mentioning litters available should be banned from K9. Without it, I too wouldn't have Josie and then obviously not Lola. I'd have just joined an endless waiting list somewhere, or prayed to strike lucky with rehoming a whippet from the local rescue, which I was doing until I realised that most couldn't be rehomes with cats or young children (as so many homing centres seem to state)

At least with K9 people have come here because of a love of whippets and because they've thought long and hard, and have done some research (hence finding K9). On Epupz type boards or similar, there is a possibility that people aren't looking specifically for a whippet.

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Consider me a possible suspicious character :- " :teehee:

 

[~Helen~]

3.Buy myself a stud dog as it would be irresponsible of me to ask someone else to use theirs

:b ah, but I've read on other threads that you don't want to be doing that either, because it is apparently onsidered suspicious if a breeder owns both sir and dam :blink:

What a mine field

edited to say that I don't think advertising or mentioning litters available should be banned from K9. Without it, I too wouldn't have Josie and then obviously not Lola. I'd have just joined an endless waiting list somewhere, or prayed to strike lucky with rehoming a whippet from the local rescue, which I was doing until I realised that most couldn't be rehomes with cats or young children (as so many homing centres seem to state)

At least with K9 people have come here because of a love of whippets and because they've thought long and hard, and have done some research (hence finding K9). On Epupz type boards or similar, there is a possibility that people aren't looking specifically for a whippet.

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Consider me a possible suspicious character :- " :teehee:

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:lol: didn't we always know that, Lesley??! :clown: :huggles:

 

[lalena]

I can't comment about the non peds as I haven't enough time in the day to read all of k9, so I stick to the ped and general forums  :thumbsup:   ........but I can say that most peddie owners KEEP their peddie pup for LIFE  :thumbsup: ...... not many dogs are ever rehomed because they are our pets  (and I mean not many)......and if they race etc ...its a bonus ...........There have been a few ped owners who really are frowned upon for passing on dogs, or even worse, breeding a litter/litters then passing on a dog that "dosn't make the grade    :rant:   ) ......but luckily peddie people know who they are  :thumbsup:   ...........I guess the peddie lot are trying to be careful, but if you notice the often rehomers/over breeders are only liked by the "newbies"  :unsure: ......and the peddie lot don't buy pups from them, .......just a shame that pet owners are easily swayed    .......Just my opinion though ........Hannah 

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I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.

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strike whippets wasnt having a go. what she was trying to get across was that sometimes people looking to buy their first dog are, not stupid, but naive as it were. because they dont know what to look for, what questions to ask etc. because they arent very informed, they are ripe for the picking by puppy farmers and their ilk, whos only customers (FACT) are those new to dogs or others like themselves who dont care.

if you had no experience of dogs, would you know about worming/jabs/breed specific health problems/feeding/breed characteristics/pet insurance/kc registration/age before a bitch should be bred from/how many litters a bitch is allowed to have....then more practical things, like how destructive pups can be, how much time, attention and care they require (there are people out there who really dont know. they expect a cute fluffy bundle thats well behaved, without putting any effort into the training)

 

[Lynn-Alexandria]

it seems to me that even if i started a thread about the weather....the same old few k9ers always end up making the same point about the same thing -_- ... oh well at least they are predictable...but ever so subtle! :thumbsup: however it seems i have found the answer to my original question.....as with most things on k9.....it seems if you have the right friends you can do what you like and if you havent .....well...... i think its obvious :thumbsup:

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You asked a question and you got answers I personally refrained from posting on this thread.

What do u mean about the same old K9's and there so called friends? after following this thread and many of the others u have posted I cannot see where u are coming from. People who dont normally post on topics like this have joined in and given u an answer.

I dont know wether you are just trying to stir trouble up again or wether you genuinely dont know u are doing it??

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Trying to stir up trouble? For goodness sakes she asked a genuine question regarding an observation she had made. How can you call that stirring up trouble? Her original question from what I can gather was this

On K9 she had noticed that ped people jumped on those who were trying to rehome a ped dog. Yet non ped dogs were coming up for rehoming a lot more and yet nothing is said on that post...her question was why the ped people jumped on those rehoming ped dogs but not non ped dogs.

If I have taken this completely wrong then Im sorry but I dont know how you can say that whitecross has been trying to stir up trouble.

 

[Whippets Rule]

I can't comment about the non peds as I haven't enough time in the day to read all of k9, so I stick to the ped and general forums  :thumbsup:   ........but I can say that most peddie owners KEEP their peddie pup for LIFE  :thumbsup: ...... not many dogs are ever rehomed because they are our pets  (and I mean not many)......and if they race etc ...its a bonus ...........There have been a few ped owners who really are frowned upon for passing on dogs, or even worse, breeding a litter/litters then passing on a dog that "dosn't make the grade    :rant:   ) ......but luckily peddie people know who they are  :thumbsup:   ...........I guess the peddie lot are trying to be careful, but if you notice the often rehomers/over breeders are only liked by the "newbies"  :unsure: ......and the peddie lot don't buy pups from them, .......just a shame that pet owners are easily swayed    .......Just my opinion though ........Hannah 

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I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.

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strike whippets wasnt having a go. what she was trying to get across was that sometimes people looking to buy their first dog are, not stupid, but naive as it were. because they dont know what to look for, what questions to ask etc. because they arent very informed, they are ripe for the picking by puppy farmers and their ilk, whos only customers (FACT) are those new to dogs or others like themselves who dont care.

if you had no experience of dogs, would you know about worming/jabs/breed specific health problems/feeding/breed characteristics/pet insurance/kc registration/age before a bitch should be bred from/how many litters a bitch is allowed to have....then more practical things, like how destructive pups can be, how much time, attention and care they require (there are people out there who really dont know. they expect a cute fluffy bundle thats well behaved, without putting any effort into the training)

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Before i got my first dog i read everything i could possibly lay my hands on with regard to veterinary care,training,behaviour problems, breed traits etc as do many many people considering the purchase of a dog.

You don't get behind the wheel of a car unless you know how to drive it so why would you buy a dog unless you know how to care for it.

If people are saying something about certain types of people maybe they should say so rather than making the generalised sweeping statements which frequently appear on here.

 

[lalena]

I can't comment about the non peds as I haven't enough time in the day to read all of k9, so I stick to the ped and general forums  :thumbsup:   ........but I can say that most peddie owners KEEP their peddie pup for LIFE  :thumbsup: ...... not many dogs are ever rehomed because they are our pets  (and I mean not many)......and if they race etc ...its a bonus ...........There have been a few ped owners who really are frowned upon for passing on dogs, or even worse, breeding a litter/litters then passing on a dog that "dosn't make the grade    :rant:   ) ......but luckily peddie people know who they are  :thumbsup:   ...........I guess the peddie lot are trying to be careful, but if you notice the often rehomers/over breeders are only liked by the "newbies"  :unsure: ......and the peddie lot don't buy pups from them, .......just a shame that pet owners are easily swayed    .......Just my opinion though ........Hannah 

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I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.

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strike whippets wasnt having a go. what she was trying to get across was that sometimes people looking to buy their first dog are, not stupid, but naive as it were. because they dont know what to look for, what questions to ask etc. because they arent very informed, they are ripe for the picking by puppy farmers and their ilk, whos only customers (FACT) are those new to dogs or others like themselves who dont care.

if you had no experience of dogs, would you know about worming/jabs/breed specific health problems/feeding/breed characteristics/pet insurance/kc registration/age before a bitch should be bred from/how many litters a bitch is allowed to have....then more practical things, like how destructive pups can be, how much time, attention and care they require (there are people out there who really dont know. they expect a cute fluffy bundle thats well behaved, without putting any effort into the training)

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Before i got my first dog i read everything i could possibly lay my hands on with regard to veterinary care,training,behaviour problems, breed traits etc as do many many people considering the purchase of a dog.

You don't get behind the wheel of a car unless you know how to drive it so why would you buy a dog unless you know how to care for it.

If people are saying something about certain types of people maybe they should say so rather than making the generalised sweeping statements which frequently appear on here.

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its good you did your homework :thumbsup: but not everyone does. then you get the 'impulse buyers' who on the spur of the moment think 'ooh, i'll buy a puppy'. while a good breeder would set these people straight, bad breeders wouldnt

 

[Lynn-Alexandria]

I can't comment about the non peds as I haven't enough time in the day to read all of k9, so I stick to the ped and general forums  :thumbsup:   ........but I can say that most peddie owners KEEP their peddie pup for LIFE  :thumbsup: ...... not many dogs are ever rehomed because they are our pets  (and I mean not many)......and if they race etc ...its a bonus ...........There have been a few ped owners who really are frowned upon for passing on dogs, or even worse, breeding a litter/litters then passing on a dog that "dosn't make the grade    :rant:   ) ......but luckily peddie people know who they are  :thumbsup:   ...........I guess the peddie lot are trying to be careful, but if you notice the often rehomers/over breeders are only liked by the "newbies"  :unsure: ......and the peddie lot don't buy pups from them, .......just a shame that pet owners are easily swayed    .......Just my opinion though ........Hannah 

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I find it really offensive that you imply that "newbies" like the often rehomers/over breeders.

I also find it very offensive that you say "pet owners are easily swayed".

So simply by being a "newbie" and owning (god forbid)pet whippets some how we are less discerning and less intelligent.

Thanks very much for the sweeping judgement.

I have as much judgement,intelligence and ability as any "breeder",i just choose to own pets and not breed them myself.This does not mean i value the pedigree of my dog any less than some one who shows/breeds.

I think that my single biggest gripe about this site is how condescending breeders and showers seem to be towards pet owners and yet without some of us there wouldn't be anywhere for the whippets to go that don't perform or conform exactly.

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strike whippets wasnt having a go. what she was trying to get across was that sometimes people looking to buy their first dog are, not stupid, but naive as it were. because they dont know what to look for, what questions to ask etc. because they arent very informed, they are ripe for the picking by puppy farmers and their ilk, whos only customers (FACT) are those new to dogs or others like themselves who dont care.

if you had no experience of dogs, would you know about worming/jabs/breed specific health problems/feeding/breed characteristics/pet insurance/kc registration/age before a bitch should be bred from/how many litters a bitch is allowed to have....then more practical things, like how destructive pups can be, how much time, attention and care they require (there are people out there who really dont know. they expect a cute fluffy bundle thats well behaved, without putting any effort into the training)

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Before i got my first dog i read everything i could possibly lay my hands on with regard to veterinary care,training,behaviour problems, breed traits etc as do many many people considering the purchase of a dog.

You don't get behind the wheel of a car unless you know how to drive it so why would you buy a dog unless you know how to care for it.

If people are saying something about certain types of people maybe they should say so rather than making the generalised sweeping statements which frequently appear on here.

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its good you did your homework :thumbsup: but not everyone does. then you get the 'impulse buyers' who on the spur of the moment think 'ooh, i'll buy a puppy'. while a good breeder would set these people straight, bad breeders wouldnt

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I agree with you there. Too many dogs are ending up in shelters because of impulse buying. Someone who wakes up one morning and thinks "I think I'll buy a dog today" and by the end of the day have the dog. It makes me sick! :rant: They have no idea of the responsibility that they are taking on and usually no idea of the breed they have bought. It is essential that research is done when getting a dog becuase it is not just a case of buying it and thats it. There is training, feeding, health care and everything else to consider. When you get a dog your responsible for another life, you need to ensure that you can take proper care of the dog and give it the best that you can give.

 

[*Lesley*]

3.Buy myself a stud dog as it would be irresponsible of me to ask someone else to use theirs

:b ah, but I've read on other threads that you don't want to be doing that either, because it is apparently onsidered suspicious if a breeder owns both sir and dam :blink:

What a mine field

edited to say that I don't think advertising or mentioning litters available should be banned from K9. Without it, I too wouldn't have Josie and then obviously not Lola. I'd have just joined an endless waiting list somewhere, or prayed to strike lucky with rehoming a whippet from the local rescue, which I was doing until I realised that most couldn't be rehomes with cats or young children (as so many homing centres seem to state)

At least with K9 people have come here because of a love of whippets and because they've thought long and hard, and have done some research (hence finding K9). On Epupz type boards or similar, there is a possibility that people aren't looking specifically for a whippet.

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Consider me a possible suspicious character :- " :teehee:

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:lol: didn't we always know that, Lesley??! :clown: :huggles:

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Cheeky :teehee: :lol:

 

[posh totty]

i say nothing lesley! lol :- "

 

[~Helen~]

  Too many dogs are ending up in shelters because of impulse buying.  Someone who wakes up one morning and thinks "I think I'll buy a dog today" and by the end of the day have the dog.  It makes me sick!  :rant: They have no idea of the responsibility that they are taking on and usually no idea of the breed they have bought.  It is essential that research is done when getting a dog becuase it is not just a case of buying it and thats it.  There is training, feeding, health care and everything else to consider.  When you get a dog your responsible for another life, you need to ensure that you can take proper care of the dog and give it the best that you can give.

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That's what I was trying to say about some people who might go to some websites of the Epupz type, not necessarily looking for a whippet but any puppy without thinking it through.

 

[Lynn-Alexandria]

  Too many dogs are ending up in shelters because of impulse buying.  Someone who wakes up one morning and thinks "I think I'll buy a dog today" and by the end of the day have the dog.  It makes me sick!  :rant: They have no idea of the responsibility that they are taking on and usually no idea of the breed they have bought.  It is essential that research is done when getting a dog becuase it is not just a case of buying it and thats it.  There is training, feeding, health care and everything else to consider.  When you get a dog your responsible for another life, you need to ensure that you can take proper care of the dog and give it the best that you can give.

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That's what I was trying to say about some people who might go to some websites of the Epupz type, not necessarily looking for a whippet but any puppy without thinking it through.

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In some aspects yes I agree that websites such as Epupz are a problem. Dogs are far too easy to get a hold of through here. However the breeders who advertise on epupz should vet people who contact them through there looking for a dog. Doesn't it in a sense come down to the breeder doing the best for their litter by ensuring that their pups go to good loving knowledgable homes?

 

[Lynn-Alexandria]

  Too many dogs are ending up in shelters because of impulse buying.  Someone who wakes up one morning and thinks "I think I'll buy a dog today" and by the end of the day have the dog.  It makes me sick!  :rant: They have no idea of the responsibility that they are taking on and usually no idea of the breed they have bought.  It is essential that research is done when getting a dog becuase it is not just a case of buying it and thats it.  There is training, feeding, health care and everything else to consider.  When you get a dog your responsible for another life, you need to ensure that you can take proper care of the dog and give it the best that you can give.

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That's what I was trying to say about some people who might go to some websites of the Epupz type, not necessarily looking for a whippet but any puppy without thinking it through.

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In some aspects yes I agree that websites such as Epupz are a problem. Dogs are far too easy to get a hold of through here. However the breeders who advertise on epupz should vet people who contact them through there looking for a dog. Doesn't it in a sense come down to the breeder doing the best for their litter by ensuring that their pups go to good loving knowledgable homes?

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Just read over what I said. When I say dogs are far too easy to get a hold of here I meant the internet in general...not aiming it specifically at K9.