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DavidH said:
maybe if more people had returned there proposal votes thing might of been different.
301 sent 153 returned, poor return a smidge over 50% very poor response.

but the folks that did take time to return this issue still had 3 to 1 for.

it will suit some folks,and wont others.

but its impossible to please everyone :wacko:

the fed do yd lb up to 35, i did ask if a 36 scr could be introduced. but they they think be to much up to 35, 36scr, 40 . (so he only races fed champs).

our bentley is 35 wouldnt run him ydlb , as i like to keep him scr . +he wouldnt have a hope in hell in catching 31 lber. think there will be more folks like myself with a 35lber :thumbsup:
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well said dave if you dont vote you dont have a say.

would be interesting to see how many of the 153 that were scr racers ;)
 
well here we go again,scratch dogs.i do have a forty pounder,and i think its a load of garbage that its gone,surely it would be better just to have a weight class in-between?ah but that would cost money,so will changing all the trophies,that have been run for for over a decade.this new weight class is not safer in my eyes.and those who proposed it dont run scratch dogs.why not get rid of the scratch alltogether then you will be happy.lets face it there was only 51 at the champs,thats an open for some places.we should be going forward not backwards.its 2011 introduce new classes not take them away.this is my opinion and im entitled to it. :rant: this is lesley not joe.
 
D.Dan said:
well here we go again,scratch dogs.i do have a forty pounder,and i think its a load of garbage that its gone,surely it would be better just to have a weight class in-between?ah but that would cost money,so will changing all the trophies,that have been run for for over a decade.this new weight class is not safer in my eyes.and those who proposed it dont run scratch dogs.why not get rid of the scratch alltogether then you will be happy.lets face it there was only 51 at the champs,thats an open for some places.we should be going forward not backwards.its 2011 introduce new classes not take them away.this is my opinion and im entitled to it. :rant: this is lesley not joe.
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Well said Lesley :thumbsup:
 
D.Dan said:
well here we go again,scratch dogs.i do have a forty pounder,and i think its a load of garbage that its gone,surely it would be better just to have a weight class in-between?ah but that would cost money,so will changing all the trophies,that have been run for for over a decade.this new weight class is not safer in my eyes.and those who proposed it dont run scratch dogs.why not get rid of the scratch alltogether then you will be happy.lets face it there was only 51 at the champs,thats an open for some places.we should be going forward not backwards.its 2011 introduce new classes not take them away.this is my opinion and im entitled to it. :rant: this is lesley not joe.
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Agree with you Lesley,adding an extra class would have been better :thumbsup: shame that wasn't proposed.If the numbers of scratch racers keep increasing as they have in the past couple of years,then it may work out feesable to add more scratch classes,we could end up out numbering the handicap :thumbsup:
 
rodders said:
D.Dan said:
well here we go again,scratch dogs.i do have a forty pounder,and i think its a load of garbage that its gone,surely it would be better just to have a weight class in-between?ah but that would cost money,so will changing all the trophies,that have been run for for over a decade.this new weight class is not safer in my eyes.and those who proposed it dont run scratch dogs.why not get rid of the scratch alltogether then you will be happy.lets face it there was only 51 at the champs,thats an open for some places.we should be going forward not backwards.its 2011 introduce new classes not take them away.this is my opinion and im entitled to it. :rant: this is lesley not joe.
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Agree with you Lesley,adding an extra class would have been better :thumbsup: shame that wasn't proposed.If the numbers of scratch racers keep increasing as they have in the past couple of years,then it may work out feesable to add more scratch classes,we could end up out numbering the handicap :thumbsup:
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What gets me karen after reading peoples views and comments no-one seems to have picked up on the unsafest and unfairest run of all is the supreme scratch 36lb, 40lb and no limit where is that safe and fair would you run 20lb and 32lb levels i think not
 
stallion said:
rodders said:
D.Dan said:
well here we go again,scratch dogs.i do have a forty pounder,and i think its a load of garbage that its gone,surely it would be better just to have a weight class in-between?ah but that would cost money,so will changing all the trophies,that have been run for for over a decade.this new weight class is not safer in my eyes.and those who proposed it dont run scratch dogs.why not get rid of the scratch alltogether then you will be happy.lets face it there was only 51 at the champs,thats an open for some places.we should be going forward not backwards.its 2011 introduce new classes not take them away.this is my opinion and im entitled to it. :rant: this is lesley not joe.
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Agree with you Lesley,adding an extra class would have been better :thumbsup: shame that wasn't proposed.If the numbers of scratch racers keep increasing as they have in the past couple of years,then it may work out feesable to add more scratch classes,we could end up out numbering the handicap :thumbsup:
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What gets me karen after reading peoples views and comments no-one seems to have picked up on the unsafest and unfairest run of all is the supreme scratch 36lb, 40lb and no limit where is that safe and fair would you run 20lb and 32lb levels i think not
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Hey up Chris/Julie love the banner :thumbsup: Safety as always got to be an issue for the dogs sake :thumbsup: Proberbly gonna get my head bitten off, :lol: but I think scratch racing is safer than handicap,because the dogs are off level.Let say we've got a 45lb running off against a 52lb dog for supreme,thats 7lb weight difference.If they are both quality dogs,there might be at most a couple of yds difference over the line,would have thought it could quite easily be alot closer than that.We do see 28lb class run off in Supreme,and that has to run up behind a 20lber.There is still the weight gap between them.I think all that puts heavyweight owners off from running off is the yardage they have to give.Just my opinion.I agree with Jac on the choice of the owner to run off in Supreme just as it is in the handicap :thumbsup:
 
erm ,excuse me i have seen a 16lb run of for supreme with a 32lb. having been in the sport over 28 years,i certainly dont think it safe or fair to run in supreme scratch,but no one FORCES us to run in it.my point is why get rid of a wheight class,that has been going well for over a decade.its only the supreme scratch that causes concern,but that is down to owners choice :rant:
 
By an extra class, do people mean another class somewhere between 40 and 55lb? I can see the sense in that and it's more cost effective with regards to trophies in the short term. I honestly don't know who put the.proposal through but I have noticed in recent times it's been one ht for 40's and sometimes 4 x no limits.

Thing is, if it's all gone through it'll be hard to overturn unless an overwhelming majority can be shown at AGM or the cost implication to the BWRA?

Can't help but feel this is a matter of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted for those who feel strongly about it. I don't mind to be honest and the rule certainly will effect us.
 
there was never a problem in scratch racing you won 36 and were chuffed 40 and NO limit just as chuffed...... everyone went away happy then the supreme scratch came in and to me has been the cause of it all because before hand 36 or 40 or no limit never met so littler scratch dogs never had to race bigger ones i also thought it took the shine from winning either of these scratch classes ......theres been oo much change in this sport over the last few year but thats just my opinion but as i said before time will tell good luck to all racers for 2011 cant wait :thumbsup:
 
and just for the record we actually voted against the supreme scratch when it was first proposed.because its not in the interest of the dog. :rant: dont think the trophies are a problem,cos we dont always get them anyway.we could all donate some,we have even heard people say they dont like them, if the bwra are that pushed for money.i would donate MY own championship trophies,what MY dogs have won.thats how i feel about this situation :rant: why not SCRAP the SUPREME and introduce a class in between 40 and 55 PROBLEM SOLVED:rant:
 
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wild whippies said:
By an extra class, do people mean another class somewhere between 40 and 55lb? I can see the sense in that and it's more cost effective with regards to trophies in the short term. I honestly don't know who put the.proposal through but I have noticed in recent times it's been one ht for 40's and sometimes 4 x no limits.Thing is, if it's all gone through it'll be hard to overturn unless an overwhelming majority can be shown at AGM or the cost implication to the BWRA?

Can't help but feel this is a matter of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted for those who feel strongly about it. I don't mind to be honest and the rule certainly will effect us.
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:thumbsup:

or feels more like 40 to 45 then up to 55??????????
 
stuie said:
I AM SAD TO SEE THAT THE FORTY POUNDERS ARE NO MORE ALL THAT HISTORY GONE A SAD DAY
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first am i the only person that as not seen or heard the results of the proposals where have they been printed ?? second every member as the chance to put in proposals and its upto each member to vote on proposals !! i am sure if i remember the proposal was put forward because it was felt to be safer a 45lb dog running with a 55lb dog !!than a 41lb dog having to run with a 55lb dog and i dont think anyone can say it would'nt be safer !! its upto the owners if they want to run of for sup,
 
D.Dan said:
erm ,excuse me i have seen a 16lb run of for supreme with a 32lb. having been in the sport over 28 years,i certainly dont think it safe or fair to run in supreme scratch,but no one FORCES us to run in it.my point is why get rid of a wheight class,that has been going well for over a decade.its only the supreme scratch that causes concern,but that is down to owners choice :rant:
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i have also seen this many time infact i ran Spellbound in the Sup run off at only 17lb but i would'nt have run him of level with the 32lb dog, will just say there was'nt a 32lb in the run off also
 
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wild whippies said:
By an extra class, do people mean another class somewhere between 40 and 55lb? I can see the sense in that and it's more cost effective with regards to trophies in the short term. I honestly don't know who put the.proposal through but I have noticed in recent times it's been one ht for 40's and sometimes 4 x no limits.Thing is, if it's all gone through it'll be hard to overturn unless an overwhelming majority can be shown at AGM or the cost implication to the BWRA?

Can't help but feel this is a matter of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted for those who feel strongly about it. I don't mind to be honest and the rule certainly will effect us.
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You know me Jac,don't agree in overturning a majoritys vote.It's been voted in therefore it should stand.

Everyyear we all have a discussion on the proposals,and what went through etc,and as we all know there is a reps meeting to discuss the proposals.We can't expect reps to know our reaction to if we think a proposal should or could be altered or for that matter an alternetive proposal going out to the membership to vote on.Maybe we ought to know what the proposals are before the vote and then if an alternative is thought of this can be put forward to the rep who inturn could let the commitee know.Then possibly an alternative could go to the vote also.Just a thought
 
rodders said:
wild whippies said:
By an extra class, do people mean another class somewhere between 40 and 55lb? I can see the sense in that and it's more cost effective with regards to trophies in the short term. I honestly don't know who put the.proposal through but I have noticed in recent times it's been one ht for 40's and sometimes 4 x no limits.Thing is, if it's all gone through it'll be hard to overturn unless an overwhelming majority can be shown at AGM or the cost implication to the BWRA?

Can't help but feel this is a matter of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted for those who feel strongly about it. I don't mind to be honest and the rule certainly will effect us.
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You know me Jac,don't agree in overturning a majoritys vote.It's been voted in therefore it should stand.

Everyyear we all have a discussion on the proposals,and what went through etc,and as we all know there is a reps meeting to discuss the proposals.We can't expect reps to know our reaction to if we think a proposal should or could be altered or for that matter an alternetive proposal going out to the membership to vote on.Maybe we ought to know what the proposals are before the vote and then if an alternative is thought of this can be put forward to the rep who inturn could let the commitee know.Then possibly an alternative could go to the vote also.Just a thought
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lol bloody hell Karen when should we start doing this in may to be voted on in nov !!
 
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