My Dogs Are Fighting :(

[AnnSa]

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Well not my dogs are fighting to be exact Sada is fighting.

 

The last week or so Sada has turned really mean, i must confess i really

think the world of all three of the A Team but Sada has a little piece of my

heart all to herself. She is normally so gentle and loving.

 

Since Al has arrived she has always put him in his place which is what i

expected as she is top dog. But the last week or so she's really not herself.

If she's not squaring up to Alba she's dragging Kaya around by her throat.

 

I can normally see when trouble is brewing and step in but today when

my daughter and sister came to give them their run while i was at work

Sada went for Alba for no reason and kept going till Alba went back at

her. My sister said they really went for it and it took her a while to part

them. Al now has a red mark on his head but no skin broken and Sada

has a pierced ear

They had to keep on leads for their walk as Sada kept trying to get at

him again. They are together now and every time she starts i am telling

her off and making her stop. She's watching him like a hawk and its

not nice......................what's going on!!!!

 

Sada was last in season in February so its not hormonal is it.

 

[affieluver]

ann could she be having a phantom pregnancy they do say it normally happens 3 months after they are in season?

 

[whippetsrus]

No advice to offer I'm afraid. I just hope things settle down for you.

 

[Evie]

My advice would be to take her to the vet to rule out any physical cause for this before working on the behaviour. Pain, discomfort or a phantom can cause otherwise happy pets to become aggresive.

Good luck. :luck:

 

[hely]

oh dear Ann

i hope you manage to get sada sorted soon :luck:

 

[AnnSa]

Im wondering if its a phantom as well

 

I hate seeing her like this she's normally so good and poor

Al doesn't deserve to be treated like it. Kays doesn't seem

to mind she thinks its all fun and games.

 

They are all together on the sofa at the moment but

im keeping a close watch and they will be in seperate

bedrooms tonight.

 

[AnnSa]

I just realised its when they are excited she starts,

like when we are getting ready for a walk and such.

I dont know if that makes a difference :unsure:

 

[tracy]

tallula had an awful phantom pregnancy earlier this year - she turned from my mild mannered, loving, sweet girl in to a monster bitch

we had our friends come to stay with their two dogs - the two dogs that she spent her first two years playing with and really loving - she would not let them even breathe near her (w00t)

she also attacked her best mate Bean who was scared to even lay on the same chair as the evil one.

it was a truly awful few weeks - i vowed to never go through it again - she will be given natural remedies this season and if she still suffers then she will be spayed.

i hope your problem is a phantom as this can be solved :thumbsup:

have a large glass of wine and whatever you do DO NOT make the mistake we did and give them all hide chews - talulla stole them all with teeth on show and proceeded to take them all to her nest.

she was truly scary :unsure: :unsure:

 

[jok]

Timing isn't right for a phantom.

I had a bitch who use to have very bad phantoms in terms of producing a lot of milk, nesting etc but she was never aggressive.

She is ascerting herself as top bitch. You need to get firm control of her and make sure she knows YOU are top dog and that you won't tolerate her aggressive behaviour.

Logan tries to bully Alfie quite a lot - when he did it last week i took him by the scruff of his neck and held him down on the floor. The message went out loud and clear that i wasn't going put up with that!

There is bound to be adjustments when you get a new addition to your pack. Just make sure you keep on top of things. Also, make sure you spend individual time with all your dogs so they don't become jealous of one and other. :thumbsup:

 

[Eceni]

Jean Donaldson's book 'Fight' is very good as a sane, sorted easy-to-read and yet accurate insight into what's happening and what you can do about it - thoroughly recommended.

I also just finished Pam Dennison's book 'Bringing Light to Shadow' about a positive dog trainer (that is, using only +ve reinforcement methods) who took on a dog-aggressive - and then human aggressive - border collie as a re-home. It's her unexpurgated diary of the ups - and the many downs - of their early time together as she struggled to integrate him into her 4 dog family. In the end, he got his Canine Good Citizen award. It's very heartening and immensely useful, if a bit repetitive at times. - but thoroughly recommended.

But get 'Fight' first from amazon - it's well worth the cost.

ms

 

[sparky]

Well not my dogs are fighting to be exact Sada is fighting. 

The last week or so Sada has turned really mean, i must confess i really

think the world of all three of the A Team but Sada has a little piece of my

heart all to herself. She is normally so gentle and loving.

 

Since Al has arrived she has always put him in his place which is what i

expected as she is top dog. But the last week or so she's really not herself.

If she's not squaring up to Alba she's dragging Kaya around by her throat.

 

I can normally see when trouble is brewing and step in but today when

my daughter and sister came to give them their run while i was at work

Sada went for Alba for no reason and kept going till Alba went back at

her. My sister said they really went for it and it took her a while to part

them. Al now has a red mark on his head but no skin broken and Sada

has a pierced ear 

They had to keep on leads for their walk as Sada kept trying to get at

him again. They are together now and every time she starts i am telling

her off and making her stop. She's watching him like a hawk and its

not nice......................what's going on!!!!

 

Sada was last in season in February so its not hormonal is it.

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My 2 would scrap over anything and now we have the pup back its even worse.. just keep on top of them and let them know your ther boss.. :thumbsup:

 

[AnnSa]

Thanks for the replies )

Its nice to get some idea's about what's going on here.

I have had chats with Trish, Hilary and Tanya as well.....

thanks ladies :thumbsup:

 

I think some of the problem lays with me, when they are

crated for a couple of hours in the morning im putting Kaya

and Alba in one together and leaving Sada to have the run

of the house. She will now be crated as well.

And when they are going mad before their run i will make

sure Sada is put on her lead first and kept out of the way

while the others are leaded up.

 

Sada is also getting spayed on the 9th of Junes so maybe

that will help as well.

 

[Trish]

Thanks for the replies  ) Its nice to get some idea's about what's going on here.

I have had chats with Trish, Hilary and Tanya as well.....

thanks ladies  :thumbsup:

 

I think some of the problem lays with me, when they are

crated for a couple of hours in the morning im putting Kaya

and Alba in one together and leaving Sada to have the run

of the house. She will now be crated as well.

And when they are going mad before their run i will make

sure Sada is put on her lead first and kept out of the way

while the others are leaded up.

 

Sada is also getting spayed on the 9th of Junes so maybe

that will help as well.

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always here for you ann :thumbsup: :huggles:

 

[jue332]

Sorry to hear you are having problems Ann, you have had some good advice on here :thumbsup:

Hope things work out for you :huggles: hopefully having Sada spayed will make a big difference :luck: :luck: :luck:

 

[FifeJillandIan]

Hope this all settles down for you soon Ann.

Jill

x

 

[meddling]

Hope things settle for you quickly Ann - its horrible when your family fall out! :huggles:

 

[Strike Whippets]

For what it's worth ...My opinion of your situation is ...... Its doubtful its a phantom at this stage ...... AND .....

Sada is asserting herself as top dog ..... If after bullying Alba and he retaliated it proves there's a conflict for top spot, as being a male and a new comer he should have bowed down to her .....If Sada is top bitch she shouldn't have her privilege's taken away and you should back her if she feels the need to keep the others in line .......I personally wouldn't have my top bitch speyed unless for medical reasons as this will confuse the pack further ...... I know that I'm the top bitch in my household :lol: .....but I do allow my top Whippet bitch and dog to keep the others in their places and will back either of them if needed ......

 

[Crystal]

Hello there - I've experienced a few problems with two of my whippets that are sisters - it only ever kicks off in excitement either perhaps when we're going in or going out or when someone arrives at the door. or they are tearing about like mad things. I no longer walk the two girls together because they just barge and then end up squabbling . I can normally diffuse the situation but have to be one step ahead and they know I'm the top dog

Once your girl is spayed be extra careful bringing her home from the vets as she will smell different and I have known this sort of thing to cause problems.

At a year old they were awful at 3 it's an occasional squabble. :luck: Sue x

 

[Janet]

I don't much about phantoms because I have 5 boys but I have been having a bit of trouble with 14 month old brothers, especially when they're running and also if they've got really excited in the garden, so I have a small plastic bottle with a few pebbles in and a hard shake of that stops them all in their tracks. I wouldn't put Sada on the lead first when you take them for a walk because you are just increasing the idea in her head that she is top dog, I would put the other 2 on leads first and make she waits till last. Also I would put her food down last and make sure that when you're preparing their food that they watch you eating something first, which will help to reinforce you as pack leader. Hope it sorts it self out soon.

 

[nicky12]

I don't much about phantoms because I have 5 boys but I have been having a bit of trouble with 14 month old brothers, especially when they're running and also if they've got really excited in the garden, so I have a small plastic bottle with a few pebbles in and a hard shake of that stops them all in their tracks.  I wouldn't put Sada on the lead first when you take them for a walk because you are just increasing the idea in her head that she is top dog, I would put the other 2 on leads first and make she waits till last.  Also I would put her food down last and make sure that when you're preparing their food that they watch you eating something first, which will help to reinforce you as pack leader.  Hope it sorts it self out soon.

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hmmm wouldnt this confuse the pack as them thinking she no longer backs sada as top bitch and they may be more likley to challenger her for top dog position if ya know what i mean :blink: my poppy is top dog in this house and i back her 100% and she runs a pretty smooth pack she keeps them in order and apart from few spats now and again all works fine for us ,tia has challenged her few time but she soon puts her in her place