Please Help Me Choose A Stallion

[OEH]

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This is Gem.

She is my retired hunter. We have done her best to get her sound and I don't think it'll happen. She is going to a lovely home with a vet who lives about 10 mins away so I can still visit her. She is going to be a wet nurse to throughbred babies, which'll be great as she looooooooooooves babies. To do this she has to have a baby, which I'll get to keep YAY. The only thing is that I have to choose an AI stallion to use and I'd like some advice.

Gem is 17hh, she is a Selle Francais and was a Grade C show jumper. She was also the most fanastic hunter I have ever had a day on. She has a wonderful temperament, really cuddly and safe, but fun to ride. She was also one of the most uncomfortable horses I have ridden and her flat work left rather a lot to be desired.

I'd like to try to produce a large (16.3h or over) all rounder that can do a bit of dressage and hunting with an equally good temperament.

Do any of you have any recomendations?

 

[haycroft]

She lovely olivia...sorry cant help witha a suitable stud bu :luck: good luck in your search

 

[jezza]

Sorry I know nothing about breeding horses but I just wanted to say how beautiful I think she is :wub: :wub: :wub:

I have never had a horse of my own but I used to ride 2 of my friends horses when we were young and Gem looks identical to Velvet.

Good luck with finding her a suitable mate :luck:

 

[Lal]

Nice TB type would help with providing a bit more comfort with their quality of action, I know it sounds silly but once you ride TB's you don't want to ride anything else. She is a good size herself and with enough bone but to breed something of a good size a NH type would be prob the best option. Been out of this game for a while but Dad used to stand 3 TB stallions at stud so maybe I'm a bit biased towards the TB's. That said I love ID x TB too. :luck: In choosing a suitable sire.

 

[julie_s]

Can't give any useful advice but I was intrigued to hear Gem, who is gorgeous btw :wub: , is a Selle Francais as I'd never heard of that breed before (it mustn't have appeared in my kids guide to horses and ponies book!). So being nosey I did a google search and found this...north american selle francais assoc no use to your search but just had a look through the Stallions and blooming nora can they jump or what... amazing! I really like the look of FUEGO DU PRELET I wonder what the stud fee is :- "

Anyway that's just a wee diversion... good luck with your search :thumbsup:

 

[Chills]

She is a stunner :wub: I would say put her to a sports horse, a good ID/TB but that is a lighter version, so maybe carrying a little more TB as you don't want to end up with something too stocky. They do seem to use the term "irish sports horse" quite loosely these days so the world is pretty much your oyster. Depends on stud fee and location I guess. Good luck though, she really is a lovely mare x

 

[Janimal]

Very good luck with the breeding programme Olivia....I am sure Gem will produce lovely foals... :huggles: :luck: :thumbsup:

Ill look forward to your updates and pictures of course.

 

[05whippet]

If it were me and I was trying to produce a good all round competition sports horse,I'd be inclined to go for either a Dutch warm blood,warm blood cross or a nice half-bred.All of those will produce a good allrounder,that is capable of excelling in all spheres and should have three fluid paces as well as decent bone...though Gem looks to have good bone anyway.

Lots of luck in your search! :luck:

 

[maggie217]

Well first I must say she is a very nice horse - I have always had Arabs myself as I was an Endurance rider but I wouldn't recommend an Arab stallion for her - I don't think you could do better than really nice thoroughbred - of the national hunt/event type - not the little whippety [ sorry] flat bred types.

Pauline

BTW thats not an insult folks as the little whippety types are bred to be fast

 

[maggie217]

I know it sounds silly but once you ride TB's you don't want to ride anything else. 

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Except Arabs

 

[jinnyfizz]

Yes, agree with Lal, Chills and Maggie217 ..... TB (NH type) is the way to go!

It's give you the size and scope you're looking for with built in stamina and elegance!

It's quite difficult to get a decent NH TB that has an AI option as they have to cover mares naturally for Weatherbys/racing purposes. I presume there are some that will provide this service.

If it were possible (and I'm not sure) to get AI from Vauterhill Stud, High Bickington, North Devon then the owner, Graham Heal, has, IMO, the most perfect 'husband' for Gem

His name is Relief Pitcher, a winner of a considerable amount of money on the race track in his heyday, and although he is getting on now, he still throws very well put together, substantial foals with temperaments to die for!!! The foals have competed successfully in all disciplines over the years.

Relief Pitcher is dark bay, 16.3hh with plenty of bone and he can really move well too (although now he's older arthritis is setting in a bit ) Fantastic temperament and very good looking ...... what more could you want???? :thumbsup:

 

[OEH]

Thanks everyone so much for your advice. I think you're probably right that a NH stallion or light ISH will be the way forward. I need to try to find the right one now. I think I'll ask the vet who she's going to whether she has any suggestions.

Julie S that website is really interesting, I think she looks quite like them. There is another SF at our yard, and they are really simillar. Neither of them grow winter coats, they both have this really weird metallic sheen to their coats (sadly doesn't show on my photos), they are both rather long and gangly in their movement and both can jump anything. (When I went to try Gemmy out I asked what her jumping was like, the woman showing her to me just put her at a huge hedge from about 4 strides and she flew).

Jinnyfizz- thanks for that I'll definately look into him, it's good to have a personal recommendation.

 

[posh totty]

hi olivia, good luck with future plans , here is a stud i am most pleased to see how the youngstock are going on to do well in chosen spheres

the ladys name is des, the stallions are of exceptional temprement

http://www1.freewebs.com/aquariusstud/

:luck: :luck:

 

[affieluver]

hi olivia have you had a look on the british warmblood society website or the hanoverian www.bwbs.co.uk or www.bhhs.co.uk good luck :luck:

 

[jinnyfizz]

Here's a few pics of two of this year's colt foals by Relief Pitcher (both out of TB mares)

At the time they were approx 4/5 weeks old :thumbsup:

 

[maggiemay2]

I TOTALLY AGREE.... Once you have ridden an arab there is nothing else to compare. Although I do have a IDxTB mare too and have had many thoroughbreds before.

Lovely mare... I'd be tempted to put this lovely mare to a ID/TB cross, that way you should keep the temperment of your mare and with the addition of the bold and level headed ID blood.

If you go onto the irish draught horse society web page they should be able to give you details of the graded ID stallions or part bred/Irish sports horses Stallions.

I agree Arab wouldnt really be the way to go but I do have a 7/8 Arab stallion in bay :wub: and he shines gold..... He is my pride and joy and such a gentleman, especially when covering a mare.

That is one thing to make sure you ask when looking for a stallion.... a lot of them can be VERY rough with the mares. As soon as you see any sort of padding being brough out to go over the mares neck I would change my mind about using the stallion. Maybe see if the stud you decide on will let you see the stallion cover another mare, that way you know.

Good Luck on your search. :luck:

 

[lillybet]

Just like to say how lovely your mare is :wub:

I had a pure bred TB and she had a lovely foal from a fell x I.D horse.

Have you thought about a coloured stallion ?

Lillibet and :luck:

 

[OEH]

Yes, have throught about a coloured stallion, I love coloured horses, had a beautiful one for a while (she was too stong so I sold her), I know they are very fashionable at the moment, but I worry that if it didn't grow big enough for me and I had to sell it that they might have gone out of fashion.

Gypsy, the coloured irish thug I owned for a while, she was very beautiful for all she had terrible manners.

 

[maggiemay2]

there are some beautiful coloured graded stallions advertised on the CHAPS graded stallion section. The link is http://www.chapsuk.com/gradedstallions.php

:wub: :thumbsup:

 

[OEH]

I have always had rather a soft spot for Stanhopes Diddicoy, what do you think about him, do you think it would just be following fashion or do you think he's any good?